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    Quote Originally Posted by Kainen
    ok aurik... scenario:

    LS kills av, sash drops, a DRG wins lot... your members don't mind... is it not your responcibility to realize you're members are moron's?
    your members are morons*

    You're gettin a little happy on the apostrephes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kainen
    ok aurik... scenario:

    LS kills av, sash drops, a DRG wins lot... your members don't mind... is it not your responcibility to realize you're members are moron's?
    If that's the system they wanted, then so be it. I don't criticize Map for lotting sash, I criticize him for trying to justify it in any other terms than 'I had the most points, gtfo'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kainen
    ok aurik... scenario:

    LS kills av, sash drops, a DRG wins lot... your members don't mind... is it not your responcibility to realize you're members are moron's?
    But a NIN minds enough to go post on forums asking if he should have gotten it over the DRG, to which everyone with a brain capacity over that of a rock says yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Awoir
    Quote Originally Posted by Kainen
    ok aurik... scenario:

    LS kills av, sash drops, a DRG wins lot... your members don't mind... is it not your responcibility to realize you're members are moron's?
    But a NIN minds enough to go post on forums asking if he should have gotten it over the DRG, to which everyone with a brain capacity over that of a rock says yes.
    what're you trying to say about rocks you little fucker

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElSugahpie
    Quote Originally Posted by Seditedi
    Quote Originally Posted by ElSugahpie
    god i hate saying this 400 times but noone seems to notice this

    OPEN LS NOT HNMLS RUN DYNAMIS

    the point of an open LS dynamis is to let anyone lot on shit am i correct?
    ehhhh doesn't have anything to do with being an Open LS or HNM LS dynamis, in either case the item is going to waste by letting an idiot WAR have it. It's not good to waste items.. especially rare ones.
    not so much a "waste" but yes, pld will get much more use out of it.

    but the people saying db's rules are all fucked up dont realize that its an equal oppurnituny ls housing people from like 5 hnmls's on phoenix. you try to do that and accomidate everyone
    My Dynamis LS is made up of like 5 HNM LSes as well and I would never let some lootwhore WAR lot that. It's quite simple, PLD ONLY. Why? Because my PLDs tanking in Dyna are gonna use that and hold hate a little better and help the Dynamis out. Nobody in my Dynamis LS would question it either. It's obvious and no matter what you say, the WAR is a lootwhore for lotting it. He is gimping himself using it and gimping the PLDs he outlotted as well.

    I don't accomadate everyone. You put in time, you will get your gear. If you don't you won't. I'm not however gonna let you lot whatever you feel like because you have been in the LS longer. ie. Shadow items go to my PLDs first and then NINs or WARs who tank for me when needed. It's quite simple to make rules fair to everyone. I'm not gonna give Shadow gear to a RDM or WHM or something stupid.

    If I was one of your PLDs, I would have left over that.

    Open lot with no restrictions is a loot whores heaven.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElSugahpie
    Quote Originally Posted by Kainen
    it came out the way it was meant. you can't let stupidity of your members let things like this happen.
    so like, when all the jews were killed because hitler totally thought it was the right thing to do, all those people who just listened to him because he said it was right were doing the right thing?

    dude, serioulsy... try running anything the way you just described, you're gonna be the next recipient of an lolsash topic
    what? are a fucking idiot? lolsash was about a SAM getting sash... i would never let that happen. it would go to a NIN or PLD only. i could care less what other people think... not gonna let sash rot on SAM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zalius
    Quote Originally Posted by Awoir
    Quote Originally Posted by Kainen
    ok aurik... scenario:

    LS kills av, sash drops, a DRG wins lot... your members don't mind... is it not your responcibility to realize you're members are moron's?
    But a NIN minds enough to go post on forums asking if he should have gotten it over the DRG, to which everyone with a brain capacity over that of a rock says yes.
    what're you trying to say about rocks you little fucker
    I'm saying that you...err...that rocks are special in their own way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Awoir
    Quote Originally Posted by XxSlusherxx
    DON'T YOU GUYS KNOW PEOPLE QUIT OVER THIS ITEM?
    lol I showed him the topic on AIM
    I promised myself I wouldn't make jokes about it anymore, but this topic was just so ripe, I couldn't help myslef

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    Quote Originally Posted by XxSlusherxx
    Quote Originally Posted by Awoir
    Quote Originally Posted by XxSlusherxx
    DON'T YOU GUYS KNOW PEOPLE QUIT OVER THIS ITEM?
    lol I showed him the topic on AIM
    I promised myself I wouldn't make jokes about it anymore, but this topic was just so ripe, I couldn't help myslef
    In the name of Zalius

    myself*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judai
    Quote Originally Posted by ElSugahpie
    Quote Originally Posted by Seditedi
    Quote Originally Posted by ElSugahpie
    god i hate saying this 400 times but noone seems to notice this

    OPEN LS NOT HNMLS RUN DYNAMIS

    the point of an open LS dynamis is to let anyone lot on shit am i correct?
    ehhhh doesn't have anything to do with being an Open LS or HNM LS dynamis, in either case the item is going to waste by letting an idiot WAR have it. It's not good to waste items.. especially rare ones.
    not so much a "waste" but yes, pld will get much more use out of it.

    but the people saying db's rules are all fucked up dont realize that its an equal oppurnituny ls housing people from like 5 hnmls's on phoenix. you try to do that and accomidate everyone
    My Dynamis LS is made up of like 5 HNM LSes as well and I would never let some lootwhore WAR lot that. It's quite simple, PLD ONLY. Why? Because my PLDs tanking in Dyna are gonna use that and hold hate a little better and help the Dynamis out. Nobody in my Dynamis LS would question it either. It's obvious and no matter what you say, the WAR is a lootwhore for lotting it. He is gimping himself using it and gimping the PLDs he outlotted as well.

    I don't accomadate everyone. You put in time, you will get your gear. If you don't you won't. I'm not however gonna let you lot whatever you feel like because you have been in the LS longer. ie. Shadow items go to my PLDs first and then NINs or WARs who tank for me when needed. It's quite simple to make rules fair to everyone. I'm not gonna give Shadow gear to a RDM or WHM or something stupid.

    If I was one of your PLDs, I would have left over that.

    Open lot with no restrictions is a loot whores heaven.
    we have a minimum run lotting rule for winning northlands and cop AF to prevent exactly that. so its not like a "lootwhore" won it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElSugahpie
    we have a minimum run lotting rule for winning northlands and cop AF to prevent exactly that. so its not like a "lootwhore" won it.
    oh contraire

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kainen
    Quote Originally Posted by ElSugahpie
    Quote Originally Posted by Kainen
    it came out the way it was meant. you can't let stupidity of your members let things like this happen.
    so like, when all the jews were killed because hitler totally thought it was the right thing to do, all those people who just listened to him because he said it was right were doing the right thing?

    dude, serioulsy... try running anything the way you just described, you're gonna be the next recipient of an lolsash topic
    what? are a fucking idiot? lolsash was about a SAM getting sash... i would never let that happen. it would go to a NIN or PLD only. i could care less what other people think... not gonna let sash rot on SAM.
    And you run an extremely successful dynamis shell with hundreds of runs and over a thousand AF2s and scores of satisfied members, right? OH wait, no, the people who run that are the ones who don't rewrite rules mid-run to suit their fancy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElSugahpie
    dude, serioulsy... try running anything the way you just described
    Actually i designed the system for a very successful HNMLS and it worked great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XxSlusherxx
    Quote Originally Posted by Awoir
    Quote Originally Posted by XxSlusherxx
    DON'T YOU GUYS KNOW PEOPLE QUIT OVER THIS ITEM?
    lol I showed him the topic on AIM
    I promised myself I wouldn't make jokes about it anymore, but this topic was just so ripe, I couldn't help myslef
    I didn't even think of that until you mentioned it. So funny and yet it seems so wrong lol...

    Anyway, hunter item. Oh shi-

    Wrong game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judai
    My Dynamis LS is made up of like 5 HNM LSes as well and I would never let some lootwhore WAR lot that. It's quite simple, PLD ONLY. Why? Because my PLDs tanking in Dyna are gonna use that and hold hate a little better and help the Dynamis out. Nobody in my Dynamis LS would question it either. It's obvious and no matter what you say, the WAR is a lootwhore for lotting it. He is gimping himself using it and gimping the PLDs he outlotted as well.

    I don't accomadate everyone. You put in time, you will get your gear. If you don't you won't. I'm not however gonna let you lot whatever you feel like because you have been in the LS longer. ie. Shadow items go to my PLDs first and then NINs or WARs who tank for me when needed. It's quite simple to make rules fair to everyone. I'm not gonna give Shadow gear to a RDM or WHM or something stupid.

    If I was one of your PLDs, I would have left over that.

    Open lot with no restrictions is a loot whores heaven.
    Good for you, you run a dyna LS that meets your needs.

    This one has rules that meets its members' needs; if they didn't then I wager people would leave and start a new shell with different rules.

    Just who are you to criticize their rules? If the large majority of members that run under those rules are happy with them, who are you to say they're wrong? And that's why it's stupid to ask this loaded question to BG: we have no right to pass judgement on an open-entry, rules-based, public dynamis LS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Quote Originally Posted by Kainen
    Quote Originally Posted by ElSugahpie
    Quote Originally Posted by Kainen
    it came out the way it was meant. you can't let stupidity of your members let things like this happen.
    so like, when all the jews were killed because hitler totally thought it was the right thing to do, all those people who just listened to him because he said it was right were doing the right thing?

    dude, serioulsy... try running anything the way you just described, you're gonna be the next recipient of an lolsash topic
    what? are a fucking idiot? lolsash was about a SAM getting sash... i would never let that happen. it would go to a NIN or PLD only. i could care less what other people think... not gonna let sash rot on SAM.
    And you run an extremely successful dynamis shell with hundreds of runs and over a thousand AF2s and scores of satisfied members, right? OH wait, no, the people who run that are the ones who don't rewrite rules mid-run to suit their fancy.
    That's why you sit down with the leaders and write the rules BEFORE. Before the run ever took place, they should have stated PLD only. When my LS started doing CoP zones, which we are still new at, we made new rules on lotting.

    If you are smart and fair and your LS trusts you, they won't bitch. Those who do, get rid of them. There are alot of people to replace them with. The ones willing to work in the system and realize why things happen and who should lot what are the ones you keep. Anyone thinking a WAR should be allowed to lot over a PLD on this, should be kicked.

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    Holy shit I didn't even know that had 9 enmity on it. You'd be stupid to give it to any job BUT PLD.

    lolhaubert

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElSugahpie
    Quote Originally Posted by Kainen
    it came out the way it was meant. you can't let stupidity of your members let things like this happen.
    so like, when all the jews were killed because hitler totally thought it was the right thing to do, all those people who just listened to him because he said it was right were doing the right thing?

    dude, serioulsy... try running anything the way you just described, you're gonna be the next recipient of an lolsash topic
    I bet if Hitler had a WAR, he would lot on Hydra Haubert.

    Elmer likes relavent and non-exaggerated observations concerning FFXI play style and Nazi Germany.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Quote Originally Posted by Judai
    My Dynamis LS is made up of like 5 HNM LSes as well and I would never let some lootwhore WAR lot that. It's quite simple, PLD ONLY. Why? Because my PLDs tanking in Dyna are gonna use that and hold hate a little better and help the Dynamis out. Nobody in my Dynamis LS would question it either. It's obvious and no matter what you say, the WAR is a lootwhore for lotting it. He is gimping himself using it and gimping the PLDs he outlotted as well.

    I don't accomadate everyone. You put in time, you will get your gear. If you don't you won't. I'm not however gonna let you lot whatever you feel like because you have been in the LS longer. ie. Shadow items go to my PLDs first and then NINs or WARs who tank for me when needed. It's quite simple to make rules fair to everyone. I'm not gonna give Shadow gear to a RDM or WHM or something stupid.

    If I was one of your PLDs, I would have left over that.

    Open lot with no restrictions is a loot whores heaven.
    Good for you, you run a dyna LS that meets your needs.

    This one has rules that meets its members' needs; if they didn't then I wager people would leave and start a new shell with different rules.

    Just who are you to criticize their rules? If the large majority of members that run under those rules are happy with them, who are you to say they're wrong? And that's why it's stupid to ask this loaded question to BG: we have no right to pass judgement on an open-entry, rules-based, public dynamis LS.
    its fun when you cant sleep tho

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    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    And you run an extremely successful dynamis shell with hundreds of runs and over a thousand AF2s and scores of satisfied members, right? OH wait, no, the people who run that are the ones who don't rewrite rules mid-run to suit their fancy.
    actually i did... and we never had a situation like this because we didn't screw the rules up ahead of time.

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