Hydra Haubert

[Rocl]

MAN IM GLAD SENDOH IS MY BUDDY CAUSE HE CAN BE MEAN

[aurik]

I don't think anyone is stupid enough to say that Haubert is 'better' on a WAR than a PLD. You might as well make a poll what the correct answer on 2+2 is; the poll is a sham, meant to troll for sympathy since Neosutra got shot down hard on the DB forums.

However, the question of "which job is this better for" is not the relevant question to DB. The relevant question is, "are the members mostly happy with the possibility of a WAR winning lot over a PLD on Haubert?" Apparently they are.

Who are you people to judge what they do with their time and their hourglass gil?

[Izzy]

He didn't post what shell he was in so that's pretty moot..

this was stated 10 pages back...

google neosutra and dynamis, whats the first page that comes up.

so basically your LS and it's members are too thin-skinned to handle outside criticism from people on other servers (which for all intents and purpose you shouldn't even give two shits about).

no, basically its a linkshell on phoenix with phoenix matters, which for all intents and purposes, should not be discussed outside of the ls and/or phoenix.

[Neosutra]

I don't think anyone is stupid enough to say that Haubert is 'better' on a WAR than a PLD. You might as well make a poll what the correct answer on 2+2 is; the poll is a sham, meant to troll for sympathy since Neosutra got shot down hard on the DB forums.

However, the question of "which job is this better for" is not the relevant question to DB. The relevant question is, "are the members mostly happy with the possibility of a WAR winning lot over a PLD on Haubert?" Apparently they are.

Who are you people to judge what they do with their time and their hourglass gil?

The question was: Should the rule be changed. So far i have seen several arguement for and against.

Your posts do nothing but defend your own trolling and continue to avoid the question.

Some people agree the rule should be changed. Some people (like yourself) think it doesnt matter.

The question that came up in our forums was: "Isnt there a line between blind fairness, and being completly useless for another job".

There was never an attack on Kain from me in either forum. And regardless of how you are trying to make it look, there was good discussion on the subject in our forum.

The only drama came from this thread, where drama whores focused on attacking kain, rather then asnwering what they thought about that line.

Get the damned sand out of your vagina.

edit: and to izzy, again i say. wtf is the point of keeping this attack up?

[Sykes]

I'm too lazy to think of a real response, so I'm just going to make this mostly content-less post as a sign of amusement at this thread in general.

[Tajin]

I'm just going to make this mostly content-less post as a sign of amusement at this thread in general.

:D

[Matricide]

Who are you people to judge what they do with their time and their hourglass gil?

Aurik, this is BG, what do you expect here? You're telling us we're not allowed to have opinions on the situation. It was posted here, and we're posting our opinions.

If a shell is all completely comfortable botting kings and it's posted on BG and they're 'judged' and criticized, would you react the same way? Why not? Because YOU think it's wrong? who are YOU to judge?.. etc. needless to say, i don't think one person asked/cared really who it was or what LS it was.

[Lyramion]

ppl making up excuses and stuff to deny the fact Haubert is for PLD = Bush

[Toralyn]

It's just greed for a WAR to lot it over a PLD, plain and simple. It doesn't matter what rules the LS has because, if the WAR had any common sense or kindness in him, he'd have never lotted it. I'm not saying he's a bad person, but he certainly did show that he's a loot whore.

[Blackice]

Toralyn pretty much put it best, it's a PLD piece period.

[vagus]

PLD hands down. It is better then Homam for a DD PLD. The sheer enmity is absolutely massive. That WAR better have PLD leveled.

Won lot on shadow ring too.

Ive begged him to lvl pld, so hopefully it will get some good use soon.

this person better be leveling pld. seriously, this person is just greedy.

[Izzy]

PLD hands down. It is better then Homam for a DD PLD. The sheer enmity is absolutely massive. That WAR better have PLD leveled.

Won lot on shadow ring too.

Ive begged him to lvl pld, so hopefully it will get some good use soon.

this person better be leveling pld. seriously, this person is just greedy.

haha we had someone in the LS get a mantle without leveling PLD. Next thing she did was level PLD to 75 haha.

i wouldnt be supprised if he did level PLD

[Sirus]

It's only been said 3450 times so far, but there is nothing better to say than:

WAR = loot whore

[aurik]

Who are you people to judge what they do with their time and their hourglass gil?

Aurik, this is BG, what do you expect here? You're telling us we're not allowed to have opinions on the situation. It was posted here, and we're posting our opinions.

If a shell is all completely comfortable botting kings and it's posted on BG and they're 'judged' and criticized, would you react the same way? Why not? Because YOU think it's wrong? who are YOU to judge?.. etc. needless to say, i don't think one person asked/cared really who it was or what LS it was.

I bolded the main flaw in your analogy; if a shell is botting kings (or cheating in any way that gives them economic advantages), they are impacting people outside their opt-in group. So of course outside people have a right to complain, because they are affected.

The point is, this is an opt-in rules-based group. Why should Neosutra or any of them care what we think?

It's all good to say "you should never give <x> item to <y> job", but when it's their time, their money, their fights, their drops, in a quasi-instanced raid that doesn't significantly affect the ability of any outside people to do their own thing, it's pretty fucking stupid to think we should have even an ounce of say in the matter.

[Epincus]

Yes, i have tried my damn hardest to keep the thread on track, and yes i have been unsuccessful. But does that really mean you have to be a dick about it?

I have to play the penty card and say yes, yes he does. You should have known this would happen when you posted the thread, especially since I know you've seen the lolSash threads.

[Toralyn]

PLD hands down. It is better then Homam for a DD PLD. The sheer enmity is absolutely massive. That WAR better have PLD leveled.

Won lot on shadow ring too.

Ive begged him to lvl pld, so hopefully it will get some good use soon.

I doubt he'll level PLD. Anyone who has to be begged to put something like that to use probably isn't a tank now, and doesn't want to be. It comes back to being a loot whore, he wanted the item just to say "I have XXXX now, I'm cool."

[Sasarai]

Who are you people to judge what they do with their time and their hourglass gil?

Aurik, this is BG, what do you expect here? You're telling us we're not allowed to have opinions on the situation. It was posted here, and we're posting our opinions.

If a shell is all completely comfortable botting kings and it's posted on BG and they're 'judged' and criticized, would you react the same way? Why not? Because YOU think it's wrong? who are YOU to judge?.. etc. needless to say, i don't think one person asked/cared really who it was or what LS it was.

I bolded the main flaw in your analogy; if a shell is botting kings (or cheating in any way that gives them economic advantages), they are impacting people outside their opt-in group. So of course outside people have a right to complain, because they are affected.

The point is, this is an opt-in rules-based group. Why should Neosutra or any of them care what we think?

It's all good to say "you should never give <x> item to <y> job", but when it's their time, their money, their fights, their drops, in a quasi-instanced raid that doesn't significantly affect the ability of any outside people to do their own thing, it's pretty fucking stupid to think we should have even an ounce of say in the matter.

That doesn't make the WAR any less of a loot whore, thats the bottom line of this thread.

[Judai]

He is asking what we would do in that situation. We gave our opinions of the situation and what we would do. Obviously, we have no say in what they do. We have all the right to say we think it was a bad move, IN OUR OPINION. They do not have to listen to it or do anything about. It is solely our opinion on the matter, which was asked of us.

This Izzy dude is an asshole btw. All you are doing is making matters worse by belittling your LSmate. The OP asked a question and only gave minimal background details. He didn't set out to hurt the LS or get sympathy(since he wasn't even on the run). You say the LS is looking down on him for this. Well if they are, then apparently 80% of BG (which is a large portion of the entire FFXI endgame community) is looking down on you and your LS.

Who cares tho. The question was answered by 400 people. PLD only. Take that advice and do what you will with it.

[Machazareel]

Who are you people to judge what they do with their time and their hourglass gil?

Aurik, this is BG, what do you expect here? You're telling us we're not allowed to have opinions on the situation. It was posted here, and we're posting our opinions.

If a shell is all completely comfortable botting kings and it's posted on BG and they're 'judged' and criticized, would you react the same way? Why not? Because YOU think it's wrong? who are YOU to judge?.. etc. needless to say, i don't think one person asked/cared really who it was or what LS it was.

I bolded the main flaw in your analogy; if a shell is botting kings (or cheating in any way that gives them economic advantages), they are impacting people outside their opt-in group. So of course outside people have a right to complain, because they are affected.

The point is, this is an opt-in rules-based group. Why should Neosutra or any of them care what we think?

It's all good to say "you should never give <x> item to <y> job", but when it's their time, their money, their fights, their drops, in a quasi-instanced raid that doesn't significantly affect the ability of any outside people to do their own thing, it's pretty fucking stupid to think we should have even an ounce of say in the matter.

We should have no say in the matter what so ever, but that doesn't mean we're not allowed to have an opinion ;o

And also, I'm pretty sure we would have been fed the picture from KI regardless of whether or not Neo made this thread. Alot of us browse KI, and a WAR with Hydra Haubert is very wtf-worthy.

[Lordwafik]

The last piece I need is the body. But being the loot whore that I am, I go to lot war relic body every xarcabard. Oh wait, I have never even lotted on it, or even set my comment for war relic. I choose money and let others have it because I won't ever use it.

lol @ bold