Hydra Haubert

[Xavier]

this is like someone who only has bst lvled lotting an ebody over a drk or war -.-;

You mean like Zky? lol. At least he lvl'd WAR 37 - 75 in 2 1/2 weeks afterwards. >_>

imagine hitting 73 and putting ebody on and having the PT go wtf.

I hit 70 war and equipped a ridill, I hit 73 war and equipped an e. body.

And yes, it felt good.

This body piece is going to benefit a PLD way more than a WAR.

[Karinastar]

Hydra Haubert is a PLD piece, and the PLD in me would die a little if I saw a only-WAR get it. The highest enmity PLD can equip, the +MP and to an extent the Refresh charges all benefit them and do nothing for a WAR unless they're subbing WHM which is very rare.

I'm all for WARs being a part of the tanking lineup on anything, but when they have a free piece of level 60 gear that's just as good for them, why deprive a PLD of a piece that could increase their performance? Especially if all you plan to use it for is "tanking" merit parties.... nothing against the guy but that just screams loot whore to me.

[Seditedi]

can we focus on reason why pld/war/drk should have it, and not on belittling the person that got it?

I cant for the life of me understand why you dont get it by now






+9 Enmity = PLDs











end of discussion

LOL

PLD +enmity = good
WAR +enmity = I want for tanking in merit point parties LOL, tanking the mob a whole 30 seconds in a melee burn? Don't even need enmity to hold hate if his WAR is doing decent damage.
DRK +enmity = pop souleater die immediately

hmm............... I don't even know why you guys are bitching about the refresh effect, the armor is still sick as hell for PLD even if you take off the refresh......

edit:If the idiot war wants enmity then heres the piece:
http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/7473 or even the NQ AF1.
Just about the same enmity with even better stats for a WAR tank. VIT and HP...

edit2: and 5 more defense.

[Xeno]

PLD. No Question.

If a WAR is that desperate for enmity they can put on their AF body.

[Izzy]

god i hate saying this 400 times but noone seems to notice this

OPEN LS NOT HNMLS RUN DYNAMIS

the point of an open LS dynamis is to let anyone lot on shit am i correct?

[Xavier]

Everybody knows the best way to tank in merit parties is through damage, not enmity. Hes less likely to tank by equipping such a shitty melee piece over haubergeon/etc.

god i hate saying this 400 times but noone seems to notice this

OPEN LS NOT HNMLS RUN DYNAMIS

the point of an open LS dynamis is to let anyone lot on shit am i correct?

Jesus christ.

The question was which job deserves the gear. I don't give a damn about your dynamis rules, but in a perfect world, its pld gear and a pld would get to lot it.

[Vobent]

Everybody knows the best way to tank in merit parties is through damage, not enmity. Hes less likely to tank by equipping such a shitty melee piece over haubergeon/etc.

god i hate saying this 400 times but noone seems to notice this

OPEN LS NOT HNMLS RUN DYNAMIS

the point of an open LS dynamis is to let anyone lot on shit am i correct?

Jesus christ.

The question was which job deserves the gear. I don't give a damn about your dynamis rules, but in a perfect world, its pld gear.

Derail.

I see your addition to sig, grats.

[Xavier]

With any luck well see Attestation of Force added to my sig before I can remove them all.

We went for GTK and Horn too and ended up with Scythe and Dagger, so it was pretty much a complete loss.

[Sonomaa]

Everybody knows the best way to tank in merit parties is through damage, not enmity. Hes less likely to tank by equipping such a shitty melee piece over haubergeon/etc.

god i hate saying this 400 times but noone seems to notice this

OPEN LS NOT HNMLS RUN DYNAMIS

the point of an open LS dynamis is to let anyone lot on shit am i correct?

Jesus christ.

The question was which job deserves the gear. I don't give a damn about your dynamis rules, but in a perfect world, its pld gear.

Derail.

I see your addition to sig, grats.

not grats, we dont want that

and we did it perfect too, we were pimps to pop the eye

[Seditedi]

god i hate saying this 400 times but noone seems to notice this

OPEN LS NOT HNMLS RUN DYNAMIS

the point of an open LS dynamis is to let anyone lot on shit am i correct?

ehhhh doesn't have anything to do with being an Open LS or HNM LS dynamis, in either case the item is going to waste by letting an idiot WAR have it. It's not good to waste items.. especially rare ones.

[Izzy]

god i hate saying this 400 times but noone seems to notice this

OPEN LS NOT HNMLS RUN DYNAMIS

the point of an open LS dynamis is to let anyone lot on shit am i correct?

ehhhh doesn't have anything to do with being an Open LS or HNM LS dynamis, in either case the item is going to waste by letting an idiot WAR have it. It's not good to waste items.. especially rare ones.

not so much a "waste" but yes, pld will get much more use out of it.

but the people saying db's rules are all fucked up dont realize that its an equal oppurnituny ls housing people from like 5 hnmls's on phoenix. you try to do that and accomidate everyone

[aurik]

god i hate saying this 400 times but noone seems to notice this

OPEN LS NOT HNMLS RUN DYNAMIS

the point of an open LS dynamis is to let anyone lot on shit am i correct?

ehhhh doesn't have anything to do with being an Open LS or HNM LS dynamis, in either case the item is going to waste by letting an idiot WAR have it. It's not good to waste items.. especially rare ones.

So create your own LS with your own rules if you don't like it.

[Izzy]

god i hate saying this 400 times but noone seems to notice this

OPEN LS NOT HNMLS RUN DYNAMIS

the point of an open LS dynamis is to let anyone lot on shit am i correct?

ehhhh doesn't have anything to do with being an Open LS or HNM LS dynamis, in either case the item is going to waste by letting an idiot WAR have it. It's not good to waste items.. especially rare ones.

So create your own LS with your own rules if you don't like it.

maybe the person complaining about the rules should do that?

[Seditedi]

god i hate saying this 400 times but noone seems to notice this

OPEN LS NOT HNMLS RUN DYNAMIS

the point of an open LS dynamis is to let anyone lot on shit am i correct?

ehhhh doesn't have anything to do with being an Open LS or HNM LS dynamis, in either case the item is going to waste by letting an idiot WAR have it. It's not good to waste items.. especially rare ones.

So create your own LS with your own rules if you don't like it.

The question was PLD WAR or DRK, I answered PLD.. wtf kinda comment was that.

[Alistaire]

I can't even imagine a WAR stupid enough to equip that, like... why? Of course I'm in a linkshell that just let a SAM lot a Shiva's Shotel over BLUs.

Ouch.

Anyway...

+9 Enmity = PLDs

end of discussion

There is also that refresh bit...By the way, does that stack with rdm refresh?

[Neosutra]

god i hate saying this 400 times but noone seems to notice this

OPEN LS NOT HNMLS RUN DYNAMIS

the point of an open LS dynamis is to let anyone lot on shit am i correct?

ehhhh doesn't have anything to do with being an Open LS or HNM LS dynamis, in either case the item is going to waste by letting an idiot WAR have it. It's not good to waste items.. especially rare ones.

So create your own LS with your own rules if you don't like it.

maybe the person complaining about the rules should do that?

Q.Q

Is there any room for open debate about rules, or does it always have to be SIT DOWN, SHUT UP, or GTFO!

[aurik]

god i hate saying this 400 times but noone seems to notice this

OPEN LS NOT HNMLS RUN DYNAMIS

the point of an open LS dynamis is to let anyone lot on shit am i correct?

ehhhh doesn't have anything to do with being an Open LS or HNM LS dynamis, in either case the item is going to waste by letting an idiot WAR have it. It's not good to waste items.. especially rare ones.

So create your own LS with your own rules if you don't like it.

The question was PLD WAR or DRK, I answered PLD.. wtf kinda comment was that.

Because this whole thread is a troll for sympathy?

[aurik]

god i hate saying this 400 times but noone seems to notice this

OPEN LS NOT HNMLS RUN DYNAMIS

the point of an open LS dynamis is to let anyone lot on shit am i correct?

ehhhh doesn't have anything to do with being an Open LS or HNM LS dynamis, in either case the item is going to waste by letting an idiot WAR have it. It's not good to waste items.. especially rare ones.

So create your own LS with your own rules if you don't like it.

maybe the person complaining about the rules should do that?

Q.Q

Is there any room for open debate about rules, or does it always have to be SIT DOWN, SHUT UP, or GTFO!

Well it sounds like you already had the debate about rules on your dyna LS site, and lost. So now you come to bg to troll for sympathy.

[Khamsin]

god i hate saying this 400 times but noone seems to notice this

OPEN LS NOT HNMLS RUN DYNAMIS

the point of an open LS dynamis is to let anyone lot on shit am i correct?

ehhhh doesn't have anything to do with being an Open LS or HNM LS dynamis, in either case the item is going to waste by letting an idiot WAR have it. It's not good to waste items.. especially rare ones.

So create your own LS with your own rules if you don't like it.

maybe the person complaining about the rules should do that?

And even if they did make a new LS with better loot rules, that still wouldn't change the fact that there's an LS giving items to the wrong people.

[Neosutra]

to aurik:

Spharai Sucks!

j/k

I think alot of people "lost" the debate, as in too much god damned drama was stirred up. And ty again aurik for your steadying and guiding input.