New Multiplayer Battlefields: Salvage (12/15/2006)

[Sho]

A shame you really can't get certain jobs to stay for it if they don't benefit on a 2nd or 3rd job. We've lost over 10 members, them being main SAM, RNG, and or MNK in Limbus.

I have no idea why people stay for dynamis and not limbus. Usually people in my shell stay for limbus for the act beastcoins, homam, and nashira. Hell, for some reason we have a guy who is a WAR onry who comes to almost every run and theres NOTHING good for WAR after brutal in there.

Haha. Before BLU came along, I stayed for every run as SAM-- I was raking in the gils off of those silly coins after I got what I wanted. Some people are just slow to money making tactics, I guess. I do know however, that those people that left, went out on the reasons of: "There's nothing better for me to get here after AF+1/Brutal/Etc".

They should have lowered drop rates to shitty dynamis levels for limbus :O

But really, who doesnt want homam and certain nashira pieces.

Really don't know, lol. :3 Outside of that, I find Limbus quick and enjoyable, with rewards-- how certain end-game content should be.

[Sasarai]

You're blind. Game *is* dying, and while I wouldnt call it an exodus, I would say a large amount of the people who took part of the endgame game activity are indeed quitting, or playing to a point where they arent really useful for their LS. It sucks, but it's the reality. Like I said, it apply for my shell, but also for every shell since I'm talking to them. There is still new players getting to 75, but those who started 2 years late are rarely what I would call dedicated to the game, unlike the first few generations of gamer.

I didn't realise you had emmigrated to my server and also every other server in the game and thusly were able to see a rapid decline (ie, the game dying) in their respective populations.

Like I said, once there stops being the same amount of people on as always, and the same amount of people at Besieged and the same amount of people at DA, then the game is dying. Untill then a few people leaving is normal and has been happening for years, just because its happening to you does not mean it is a sudden break-down in the population of this game.

Also, just because people started playing later doesn't make them any less hardcore than those who played from the start.

[Septimus]

A little optimism really wouldn't hurt these boards. You guys are way too fucking pessimistic.

CoP Dynamis- Crushing your hopes and dreams since Dec. 2005™.

[Septimus]

And for the record, I am not impressed. Unless the rewards are fantastic and/or it is surprisingly fun, it is going to get old very quickly.

[Sho]

A little optimism really wouldn't hurt these boards. You guys are way too fucking pessimistic.

CoP Dynamis- Crushing your hopes and dreams since Dec. 2005™.

Epic Post.

[Sho]

The simple fact that we will have restrictions at the get go will turn off a few people. I know some that are still suffering from Post CoP Handicap Trauma. >_>

[Lordender]

I don't know, this place looks pretty hot and seems like its creative, I just hope there is worthwhile rewards for doing it.

[Kaylia]

that's BS to massage your own ego.

if they started 2 years late and played 5+ hours a day since they started, their dedication is no different.

90% of the first generation cashed out, that's not "what I would call dedicated to the game" either.

That's not what I mean and I'm not saying old people are "better". However, people who started early are people who waited the game for a while and wanted to play it. They are generally gamer who tend to be more dedicated to *video game* than most (hence why they want it first). It's true for PC release just as well as PS2 release

Yes, a lot of those quitted because game eventually get boring for everyone, and they moved to something else, but they were still dedicated when they were playing and wanted to complete eveything. Obviously, there is no generalization that can be made, and I'm sure there is dedicated late comer, but from what I observed, most people who still play every day, have good attendances and most are people who joined the game as early as they could.

I don't see how I "massage" my ego by saying this. You can disagree with the statement I made, but I'm not praising anyone. Hell, I dont even consider being dedicated to the game as a good thing anymore, since it's borderline addiction at this point.

[Spira]

Anything to match or come close to a Ridill would be a godsent to the game. If you aren't tired of DA drama at this point, then you are made of steel.

They will add something like this... for BLU Onry.

Since the first one was McRidill i guess the new one will be called Filet-O-Fish...

[Celeras]

And for the record, I am not impressed. Unless the rewards are fantastic and/or it is surprisingly fun, it is going to get old very quickly.

Unless its fun, its going to get old!

[layoneil]

I don't see how I "massage" my ego by saying this. You can disagree with the statement I made, but I'm not praising anyone

you're praising the older people as people who:

wanted to complete eveything.

while implying that the newer people are people who don't. and obviously, you and the people of your LS are part of the older people.

[levish]

i can't believe we didn't even get to dat mining and people are already complaining about salvage drops

~3 more days people, cross your fingers

p.s. I like that

1. there's no requirements other than a minimum level to enter
2. there's relatively no cost to enter other than AP
3. small numbers are easier to co-ordinate than larger ones (for me and my n00b kind)

would be so nice if it was the whole range of classes AF2 or something good

p.s. in Kaylia's defense my small LS for the most part completely left FF and in NA primetime peak numbers go down from month to month. FFXI isn't dead but it sure isn't attracting more people than are leaving.

[stollio]

would be so nice if it was the whole range of classes AF2 or something good

AF2 is years old content. I hope to god they don't make a new way of doing the same thing -_-;;.

[Sho]

i can't believe we didn't even get to dat mining and people are already complaining about salvage drops

~3 more days people, cross your fingers

p.s. I like that

1. there's no requirements other than a minimum level to enter
2. there's relatively no cost to enter other than AP
3. small numbers are easier to co-ordinate than larger ones (for me and my n00b kind)

would be so nice if it was the whole range of classes AF2 or something good

This is how it happens:

1) We complain, and bitch, for we know S-E will fail on us somehow.
2) Update comes and we .dat mine to hell, BG has a 9/10 chance of being lagged to hell due to lolKI peeps.
3) We look in the the new .dats, and find that 5-15% of the new content is useful.
4) Post-Patch complaining period, for S-E has failed to deliver.
5) ???
6) Profit

[Alvinho]

/sigh

What sucks the most is the fact that even if it's a good challenge, the majority of players won't be interested if there aren't good rewards.

One can only hope that SE took this in consideration.

[othellojr]

This is how it happens:

1) We complain, and bitch, for we know S-E will fail on us somehow.
2) Update comes and we .dat mine to hell, BG has a 9/10 chance of being lagged to hell due to lolKI peeps.
3) We look in the the new .dats, and find that 5-15% of the new content is useful.
4) Post-Patch complaining period, for S-E has failed to deliver.
5) ???
6) Loose

Fixed for accuracy...there will be no "profit" when we all get shafted once again, lol.

[Sho]

This is how it happens:

1) We complain, and bitch, for we know S-E will fail on us somehow.
2) Update comes and we .dat mine to hell, BG has a 9/10 chance of being lagged to hell due to lolKI peeps.
3) We look in the the new .dats, and find that 5-15% of the new content is useful.
4) Post-Patch complaining period, for S-E has failed to deliver.
5) ???
6) Loose

Fixed for accuracy...there will be no "profit" when we all get shafted once again, lol.

[Kaylia]

I don't see how I "massage" my ego by saying this. You can disagree with the statement I made, but I'm not praising anyone

you're praising the older people as people who:

wanted to complete eveything.

while implying that the newer people are people who don't. and obviously, you and the people of your LS are part of the older people.

I thought my post was longer than that but w/e. I still don't see how it's a massage for my ego to say there was a bigger amount of dedicated gamer who joined the game in its first moment than there was after. It means nothing about me or anyone in particular for the matter. If you are in a group that is stupider than average, that doesn't make you stupider.

Anyway, yes, I do believe there was more "real gamer" in the first few waves that joined the game. That's what I observed when I play with people who were from first few generation, vs people who joined game really late. If you observed something different, than I guess we will have to disagree.

[Toth]

I think it looks fun. It looks like Dynalimbus with no statues to kill and no placeholder NMs (hopefully) to waste time sac pulling. Just 100 minutes of salvaging (please let there be good items) and killing some megaboss for an Astral Candescence.

One more thing: OMG MELEE SMN HAS A USE

[inafume]

Real gamers!

Sword and shield WARs!
BLM/SMNs!
Underlevelled and bizarre subjobs on most everyone, including the "good" players.
20 hours inside Eldieme Necropolis because an alliance of people needed paper!

Maybe those people were real gamers, maybe they were/are just masochistic. You can discount newer players' enthusiasm/determination/etc because they've been handheld through a lot of stuff, but I don't know if praising peoples' ability to slog through shit is right, either.