New Multiplayer Battlefields: Salvage (12/15/2006)

[Vobent]

just translated the JP playonline with the Japanese -> English Google Beta thingy.

Is to be, the [ji] the maneuvers results which are obtained with [asaruto] (2000 points) with being possible to procure in exchange, you use the maneuvers results of which maneuvers territory at that time, it can select the thing, freely.

gogo ASARUTO Points lol *cough* assault

fuck

[Delekii]

http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics...47/1147_11.jpg

got left out of the original post.

[Kurp]

Well, we're starting to see a trend on minimum amounts of people to enter these arenas. Guess SE doesn't like "Small manning" it. Allowing mutipule people to do these at the same time, and to do these once a day, is very nice though. We'll just have to wait and see if any types of currency or whatever also drops off these, and if the final drops are "worth" the effort,a nd aren't as awful % as the ashu talif.

I think it's gunna be like limbus with some kind of Proto-U/O at the end thats guarenteed to drop somthing, maybe drop, maybe some godly piece of the set...(I'de say they drop the things from the equipment update, but there's three of those, and four salvage.)

Which brings up another point...Nyzul Isle is mission based, not salvag based. I was kind of suprised when they didn't mention it.

<edit> anyone else getting weird d/c's?

Well, they might not be showing all the gear sets that will be released in the update. They said there are new weapons also.

[Calina]

i alrdy corrected it

[Sasarai]

http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics...47/1147_11.jpg

got left out of the original post.

Inability to equip weapons, spells, abilities? >.> Go go MNKs.

[Vobent]

http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics...47/1147_11.jpg


No magic?! I can see no abilities and other things.........but...how will you cure?! cry

[Kaylia]

18 ppl is just fine i never liked that dyna could hold so many ppl always was to laggy and so many ppl tryin to lot for same items limbus with the 18 person cap i loved never had any prob getting my stuff for AF+1 rarly would be lotting agents anyone and iam 1/1 on my Homam pants =)

But people are doing dyna with 18 and limbus with 5-6 nowaday ;p

Some of the mobs look pretty damn amusing but uh...Well...

18 people max is a little of a disappointment. 100 hours with no extensions and plenty to do would make for little time to "farm" any valuable items. CoP Dynamis style restrictions are kinda lame too.

Ah well, might be fun anyway.

18 ppl is great imo. My LS barely get more than this online nowaday. People in my linkshell are bored of the game and quitting in mass.

Fixed to reflect reality.

Anyway, I supppose my reasons for wanting more are slightly biased, I was hoping it could be an alternative for my DLS which would see upwards of 50 to an unrestricted run. Seems they want it more like Limbus in that regard though, not necessarily a bad thing.

Screenshots look good, so I'm still excited.

Not my LS only, maybe Ifrit but I know it's like that for every LS on my server. We had 8 ppl on Tier 7 assault for about 1month, maybe 20-25now. No one play as much as we were 1 year ago, and no one grind like before. It's particularly true for my ls, but I know the trend isnt exclusive to us only.

http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics...47/1147_11.jpg

got left out of the original post.

Go go mnk? I dont see any other way, unless stuff is extremly weak

[Kurp]

[img]http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics/ff ... 147_11.jpg[/img]

got left out of the original post.

Oh snap. I can see how it will be pretty strategic on how you give items to people. I bet there are a lot of white mages without equipment for the whole run and bards running around with -30 to all stats.

[Calina]

good thing i have my H2H capped for thf =)

[Sasarai]

Clearly they want something that PUP may actually be useful for.

Not my LS only, maybe Ifrit but I know it's like that for every LS on my server. We had 8 ppl on Tier 7 assault for about 1month, maybe 20-25now. No one play as much as we were 1 year ago, and no one grind like before. It's particularly true for my ls, but I know the trend isnt exclusive to us only.

No.

When my server stops getting 500+ to Besieged and doesn't have the same amount of people logged in as this time last year, then I will agree that people are "quitting on mass". Untill then, any time someone makes that sort of comment, its simply an emo rant on how their linkshell isn't as lively as it used to be.

[Kaylia]

Clearly they want something that PUP may actually be useful for.

Summoning puppet is a job ability.

[Calina]

ganna start out like everything goes to tank's/whm's then blm then everything nwill trickle down as run goes on and by end watch some ppl will stiil be completly naked and with -30 to everything

[Vobent]

Clearly they want something that PUP may actually be useful for.

Hm.....
Hmm indeed, if you can use JA's...can you make your puppet cast, even though no one else in the salvage can? Interesting...

[Kurp]

Another thing is, this probably removes /NIN if the items aren't really easy to get. I doubt you can afford to give them to melee because they'll all be going to mages. That is at least if ninjutsu and even songs count as magic here.

[Sasarai]

Clearly they want something that PUP may actually be useful for.

Summoning puppet is a job ability.

True, though having a decent rating H2H would make them more useful than some of the norm.

Did the details mention that ALL of these negatives would be implimented or only a random amount?

[Vobent]

ganna start out like everything goes to tank's/whm's then blm then everything nwill trickle down as run goes on and by end watch some ppl will stiil be completly naked and with -30 to everything

Those will prolly be free-lot.

[Kurp]

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Did the details mention that ALL of these negatives would be implimented or only a random amount?

When adventurers begin a Salvage mission, they may have as many as 20 different limits hampering their abilities, equipment, attributes, and more.

Sounds random or based on which mission you choose.

[Ninjiz]

Some of the mobs look pretty damn amusing but uh...Well...

18 people max is a little of a disappointment. 100 hours with no extensions and plenty to do would make for little time to "farm" any valuable items. CoP Dynamis style restrictions are kinda lame too.

Ah well, might be fun anyway.

18 ppl is great imo. My LS barely get more than this online nowaday. People are bored of the game and quitting in mass.

Fixed to reflect reality.

Anyway, I supppose my reasons for wanting more are slightly biased, I was hoping it could be an alternative for my DLS which would see upwards of 50 to an unrestricted run. Seems they want it more like Limbus in that regard though, not necessarily a bad thing.

Screenshots look good, so I'm still excited.

Im gonna have to RE-edit that back to the original, Lots of people quit all the time whatever the reason may be. THAT is the real reality. a LOT of people i played with, dont play anymore, and im not the only one this happens to.

Anyway...

This seems interesting. Im glad that its 18 people. Means you can get stuff done, without needed a retarded amount of people. Or have to wait super long for items, with 40 other people.

But people are doing dyna with 18 and limbus with 5-6 nowaday ;p

Probably not any dynamis anyone cares about :O
Maybe the easier ones i guess. Unless you mean Valkrum, Taz, Bibi etc etc
but i suppose its possible

[Darkmessenger]

Has there been an indication of what rewards we can expect?

The concept sounds pretty good, but we all know nobody's going to do Salvage in a few months if the drops are as awesome as Berserker's Torque.

[Delekii]

It just said up to 20 MAY be in effect, dont expect it to be like that picture from the start every time.

I think it would depend on the salvage, and certain combos would be in place for certain salvages.

Like, maybe in one you get "No job abilities" and "Melee stats down -30" to start.. whereas maybe in another its "No magic" and "Max HP down 75%".

Thats my understanding anyway.