New Multiplayer Battlefields: Salvage (12/15/2006)

[miokomioko]

A thousand pages late, but in response to that post mentioning SE trying to make PUP useful via Salvage.

Activate is indeed a Job Ability... however, commands and maneuvers are not, they are Pet Abilities. Now, when entering any level-capped area or any area that can be level-capped (I believe Assault is the only area that applies to that) you will lose any pets you have, be it automaton, avatar, or jug. Since Salvage is described as a lv.65+ area, that sounds like a lv.65 minimum to enter, just like Dynamis, but no level capping involved. Entering Dynamis does not remove pets, or at least it does not remove activated Automatons. Therefor, there is a rather good chance a lv.75 PUP could prove rather useful in the start of a Salvage run when everyone is heavily hindered by Pathos... that is, if the Automaton's attachment-given "abilities" (provoke/flash/convert) and spellcasting are not hindered, either way it's most likely that an Automaton will not be stripped naked of its attachments.

Afterthought... a PUP with Encumberments (?) would possibly not be able to equip the Animator, thus unable to give maneuvers, hmm.

...or punch with their C+ +16 h2h skill... lolpup

[Senoska]

I cant fucking sleep, this is like Christmas...

[Lordender]

i wish a patch could get me that excitied that i couldn't sleep ;o

[Lordwafik]

I cant fucking sleep, this is like Christmas...

aim me whore face i'm bored

[Vobent]

Ya..it's so boring...
sigh

[Thames]

I thought it was supposed to be a built-in saftey feature of boredom that it also makes you drowsy so that you can just pass out instead of finding entertainment. Mine's not working though

[miokomioko]

Lucky for me I have a 2000-word research paper to write, a play to read, a 10-page portfolio to print, a 25-image series to print, and class to attend instead of waiting for server up... Lucky... me.

Goodnight suckers!

[Kaylia]

Lucky for me I have a 2000-word research paper to write, a play to read, a 10-page portfolio to print, a 25-image series to print, and class to attend instead of waiting for server up... Lucky... me.

Goodnight suckers!

Suck for you, cause you will be refreshing the "update info" page over and over instead of doing your papers :D
At least, thats what I was always doing on update day, when I had work to do.

[miokomioko]

Lucky for me I have a 2000-word research paper to write, a play to read, a 10-page portfolio to print, a 25-image series to print, and class to attend instead of waiting for server up... Lucky... me.

Goodnight suckers!

Suck for you, cause you will be refreshing the "update info" page over and over instead of doing your papers :D
At least, thats what I was always doing on update day, when I had work to do.

Word... and I'm still here.

[Hiruke]

Nyzul isle though

just a notice:
Lebros Cavern / Itrusi / etc all consist of 10 maps (dats);
Nyzul is made by 7 and reminds Renmants style much more.

my guess is Nyzul Isle might be ToAU endgame map?
not much of a fan of the Underworld theory.

Look awfully like an assault tho. Not to mention the missing counter in assault building.

I was actually thinking about this before I saw these posts about it, when I was looking at the maps out of boredom. You'll also note that two of the Salvage areas has 7 floors, while the other two have 5. This should remind you of Limbus, no? Specifically, the North Apollyons (the South ones only have 4 floors) and Temenos. However, the top floor of each seems rather small. Is it a boss floor or simply an exit?

All four of the Remnants have the exact same map at the top "floor". Nyzul Isle also has this same map at the top (which is incidentally 8 maps according to AltanaView, not 7). The floor layouts of Nyzul all match the Salvage-styled layout. Also, all Salvage areas (including Nyzul, if it is Salvage) have a connecting map from Alzadaal Ruins. However, the Alzadaal map for Nyzul has many more rooms than the Remnants. In any event, no Assault has a map as small as Map 8 for Nyzul.

Not all assault areas have ten maps. Mamool Training Grounds only has five. The assaults reuse the maps.

I'm not sure I agree, though I don't feel like viewing the maps side by side. The basic point is that there are 10 maps in the .dats for each Assault? Whether or not they are reused maps is not so important as the notion of whether or not they have separate map markers and thus make it into 10 tiers of Assault total (which only seems to make sense since the tiering of Assaults would be equivalent to nation rank in the original cities, complete with "CP" [IS] items and everything). This alone kind of edges Nyzul out, unless you have to be "Rank 3" or higher to even enter Nyzul, given that it only has 8 maps.

It is unusual that the Salvage areas actually DO have maps at all, unlike Dynamis and Limbus. I was pleasantly surprised that Assaults had maps, for that matters. I think that if Nyzul Isle is Assault somehow, that it's a hybrid between that and Salvage, rather than being typical of other Assaults. I'd be more inclined to think it's a possibly locked Salvage area that requires key items or triggers from the others.

Anything anyone says it just speculation though, so the only reason to argue for or against anything is out of simple boredom waiting to find out the answers.

[Vobent]

I'm still going by my Nyzul isle is an assault, and that's where you buy the...permits? for salvage.

[Dakana]

Lucky for me I have a 2000-word research paper to write, a play to read, a 10-page portfolio to print, a 25-image series to print, and class to attend instead of waiting for server up... Lucky... me.

Goodnight suckers!

Suck it I have to go take an Abstract Algebra Exam now at 8:30 in the morning est and I'll get back jsut in time for maint. to begin ; ;


Mother $%^*$%^ Abstract Algebra

[Credos]

I'd kill to still be in School.

[Vobent]

I'd kill to still be in School.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...-the-fool2.jpg

I pity the fool who ain't in school.

[Credos]

I'd kill to still be in School.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...-the-fool2.jpg

I pity the fool who ain't in school.

Same here... Instead of hot college chicks and free booze I gotta deal with shitty coffee and a psycho woman who put tons of Christmas ornaments on her desk. She also sings along to TV Theme songs when it is slow.

In the words of Billy Madison: "Stay in School as long as you can, don't ever leave!"

/hijack off

[Credos]

Edit: Double post.

[SassiAsura]

Working from 9 to 9 today... mostly looking forward to reading up patch info and dat leaks.

It's not like I can play the game anymore thanks to Xmas...

[Coldone]

I just wanna see the .dats so I can look thru 60 pieces of new gear and probably only want 1 of em.

[Vobent]

Ok, back on track..While going through my altanaview I found some intersting things.
There are two sets. Silver sea & bhaflau remnants.
And, Zhayolm & Arrapago.
I say these are sets because Silver sea and bhaflau only have 5 maps. While zhayolm and arrapago have 7.
For each set, the maps are the exact, except a few subtle changes like where you zone in, sometimes they flip the maps upside down.

Here's an example.
Bhaflau map #4 : http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/7374 ... 073pa1.png
Silver sea #4 : http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/9804 ... 084pl7.png


Arrapago #4 : http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/1999 ... ed2pd8.png
Zhaylom #4 : http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/83/untitledjd5.png

[Helpoemer]

anyone else notice that there has been no mention about the ToAU Storyline additions (those new quests don't count).

i need to know more about that picture

/panic