New Multiplayer Battlefields: Salvage (12/15/2006)

[Tomino]

2k IS is a nice fee, and will give us a reason to waste our 100k IS.

it's 2k ASSAULT points, not IS

[Sasarai]

Some of the mobs look pretty damn amusing but uh...Well...

18 people max is a little of a disappointment. 100 hours with no extensions and plenty to do would make for little time to "farm" any valuable items. CoP Dynamis style restrictions are kinda lame too.

Ah well, might be fun anyway.

18 ppl is great imo. My LS barely get more than this online nowaday. People are bored of the game and quitting in mass.

Fixed to reflect reality.

Anyway, I supppose my reasons for wanting more are slightly biased, I was hoping it could be an alternative for my DLS which would see upwards of 50 to an unrestricted run. Seems they want it more like Limbus in that regard though, not necessarily a bad thing.

Screenshots look good, so I'm still excited.

Im gonna have to RE-edit that back to the original, Lots of people quit all the time whatever the reason may be. THAT is the real reality. a LOT of people i played with, dont play anymore, and im not the only one this happens to.

People have always been quitting all the time, theres nothing different about now than any other time. Making the statement that there is a mass exodus from the game, implying its dying, is however 100% false.

[Tsunade]

[quote:f185a]
ganna start out like everything goes to tank's/whm's then blm then everything nwill trickle down as run goes on and by end watch some ppl will stiil be completly naked and with -30 to everything

Those will prolly be free-lot.[/quote:f185a]

I don't know about you, but I wouldn't let items that remove -30 to all stats go to free lot... With less healing power, no sub jobs... I think one or two war should get this first, to give them back VIT to tank. Meanwhile, SMN should be dead last to get it cuz we all know how much SMN needs the +30 to all stats.

Anyway, 2K assault points is a lot... pretty much limits you to doing Salvage every two days... Good and bad, I guess... that SE is keeping our schedule busy... HNM pop times, Dynamis, Limbus, Assault, Salvage... Got stuff to do every night of the week now. (Not that it's new or exciting stuff, but stuff to consume our time)

[Rammses]

I hope GMs scout these areas for warp bots cause I can see that being a strategy for "precise teamwork" for some linkshells.

[Ninjiz]

Some of the mobs look pretty damn amusing but uh...Well...

18 people max is a little of a disappointment. 100 hours with no extensions and plenty to do would make for little time to "farm" any valuable items. CoP Dynamis style restrictions are kinda lame too.

Ah well, might be fun anyway.

18 ppl is great imo. My LS barely get more than this online nowaday. People are bored of the game and quitting in mass.

Fixed to reflect reality.

Anyway, I supppose my reasons for wanting more are slightly biased, I was hoping it could be an alternative for my DLS which would see upwards of 50 to an unrestricted run. Seems they want it more like Limbus in that regard though, not necessarily a bad thing.

Screenshots look good, so I'm still excited.

Im gonna have to RE-edit that back to the original, Lots of people quit all the time whatever the reason may be. THAT is the real reality. a LOT of people i played with, dont play anymore, and im not the only one this happens to.

People have always been quitting all the time, theres nothing different about now than any other time. Making the statement that there is a mass exodus from the game, implying its dying, is however 100% false.

I dont know about you, but i didnt feel like MASS EXODUS from the game and its dying was implied. People quiting in Mass (ie: a lot of people) (when you combine up servers) is a reality.

[Vobent]

So I was racking my brain to think of how they would use assault points, it might be related like zhayolm remnants = lebros AP. But again, there is currently five, not four assault areas...hmm...
...Nyzul Isle, the sixth assault area. All four remnants connected to this ones AP? If it is AP. (Still think it's translation error..)

[Hiruke]

I doubt it's a translation error. I have been wondering if it will require AP from a certain zone for a certain permit or for any permit. It sounds interesting, but it will be the details that make or break this one.

Slow Ninja Edit: Speaking of IS, though, they really should add some more ISNMs or something. Not to mention more ENMs. Decent enough concepts that could have more going on there.

[yrpaine]

The AP thing seems to be the only major downside to this, but then again, it may make some people finally start to do more assaults and rank up. It's annoying to have SM badge, and have it so hard still to find people to do LC assaults with, cuz most other people are PSC or PFC still. On another note though, would make it more flexible for groups to set up when they go, they could either do these runs 2 days in a row, after ppl get up some IS, or do it every 3rd day or something similar.

[Vobent]

The AP thing seems to be the only major downside to this, but then again, it may make some people finally start to do more assaults and rank up. It's annoying to have SM badge, and have it so hard still to find people to do LC assaults with, cuz most other people are PSC or PFC still. On another note though, would make it more flexible for groups to set up when they go, they could either do these runs 2 days in a row, after ppl get up some IS, or do it every 3rd day or something similar.

Ironic, I have the oposite problem, I'm PSC and can't find anyone to do PSC missions with me(in LS, of course..screw outside people) ('-'*)

[Abel]

I like the look of it, new mobs too it seems, always a plus. I'm just looking for the DAT miners to come out and rape this thing on the update. Perhaps we'll see exactly *what* drops here, if it's only for the TAU jobs, or if it's perhaps for other jobs as well, hopefully something lucrative, or at least very very worthwhile to go through this trial to get it. But as I said before about Salvage, i'm sure it's gonna be instanced, and somehow, someway it's going to be made of win. This update is living up to some decent hype, hopefully when I wake up the English site will have this up, and we'll know for sure if it's Assault, or IS, IS would rock, Assault while keeping people busy w/ somewhat stale / older content that people have seemingly stopped spamming would be nice, it's also going to be a pain in the ass for those who have little AS points, either way good job for once on requirements SE. I really figured it'd be something ridiculous, like the 1,000,000G equivalent of TAU coins or some crap. 2k AS or 2k IS is still good, and made of equally good win.

Edit: On a side note, and likely because I'm entirely sleep deprived and overworked, did anybody else read the title of "multi-player battle" and think horrifically something like Besieged, or even Ballista-esque events? For just a second my hopes were shattered, then restored gloriously, just hope my LS will get at least 1-2 groups together to do this, we barely get 16 to do Limbus, so I'm sure we'll be get near the max for this since it's some what easier.

[Quicklet]

It's not even worth speculating about something like this until you see what actually drops from there. That pretty much makes or breaks how good all these endgame areas end up being.

[Karinastar]

It's possible that you'll need to use Assault points in a related area to access those remnants. Like to access Bhaflau Remnants you'll need to use Mamool Ja assault points, etc. Would be a lot easier if you could just use points from any area though.

Told my LS to start farming some assault points, this seems like it might be a fun, challenging, and relatively hassle-free thing to do, especially since it's instanced. I just hope the rewards measure up to the challenge.

[Tomino]

Flexibility, can do either 1 or 7 per week = WIN
Istanced, as already mentioned = WIN
6-18 ppl = BIG WIN
AP prerequisite to keep lazy ppl out = WIN
AP prerequisite to give worth back to AP items = WIN
100 min = WIN

and now for the unknown vital part...

AF2 Pieces (all) + 3 Gear Sets + Points Items = BIGGEST WIN EVER
COR-BLU-PUP Relic Onry + Items = Lame
3 Gear Sets Onry = Fail


and more..
if Salvage = Multi-Battle, then Nyzul Isle = ToAU Endgame area?

[JMunin]

and now for the unknown vital part...

AF2 Pieces (all) + 3 Gear Sets + Points Items = BIGGEST WIN EVER

They have said they wanted to make relics easier to obtain, and this may give the option to people who want it badly enough to spam zones as much as possible in addition to dynamis.

Might want to sell that dynamis currency you've been hoarding in case there's a sudden large influx starting next week.

Farewell, sense of Corsair completion! I shall miss you.

[Alibeemac]

It's possible that you'll need to use Assault points in a related area to access those remnants. Like to access Bhaflau Remnants you'll need to use Mamool Ja assault points, etc. Would be a lot easier if you could just use points from any area though.

"This key item can be obtained in exchange for Assault points (2000) and will grant entry to any one of the four remnants".

To me this looks Limbus like in that the Cosmo Clense accesses all Limbus zones depending on which you want to do so I imagine that the pass will access all Salvage zones therefore you can use your points from any Assault zone to get the pass. This seems the only fair way since people will have points going to waste in some zones where there is nothing good for their specific job to spend points on.

[Kyreth]

Win.

And as far as the 2K AP cost...my bet is that Salvage runs are by -area-, and hence one spends your 2K at the same counters as you do for Assaults in the same region.

I can pick up 2K AP+ in one 3-tag run, so that looks like roughly one-two Salvages possible per week. The run size is right (no laggy Dynamis) and the size is right for the average linkshell to put together an alliance for.

That it serves as a nice sink for AP is not to be denied. I'm still going for Yigit pieces, but all those Excavation Duty runs I've done helping other folks farm AP means Lebros will get a visit for a Salvage attempt from my LS before anywhere else. (Naturally, i'm guessing S-E will make the less Assaulted areas have preferable Salvage missions)

[Ishido]

So far it seems the only things that could ruin this are the AP cost or the lack of good drops.

[Dark Vincent]

Finally some interesting news! Hype up :D
Time to farm more APs lulz

[HAcoreRD]

Assault points? FUCK!

I have like none. SMN ftl!

[Kyreth]

Assault points? FUCK!

I have like none. SMN ftl!

Don't give me that, Mr. "I can solo Golden Salvage".

(Seriously, my LS Summoners just grab two random people with tags and rape the mission without breaking a sweat. So can you. Just learn the map, sweep the area with Carby to take aggro, and a winner is you.)