New Multiplayer Battlefields: Salvage (12/15/2006)

[Siatdiat]

This is the way I see this turning out:

1. Awesome rewards on par with the select remaining pieces of gear that people camp zilart kings for. Then the 2k assault points required is awesome.

2. More shitty gear that people "might" wear around town or bazaaring if it looks hot. Totally not worth 2k assault points a run and not going to see too many people do this other than small ls that will never touch the bigger endgame content, and those ls that have pretty much everything and do this new type of content just to do it.

Now compare this to the how likely it is that the rewards are on par with zilart kings. I think its possible that adaman hauberk is taken down a notch, and some of the other few remaining armor pieces still not outdated. But, they will never make a comparable ridill or D. ring, and the most hardcore ls will still be out there day in and day out trying to get these items for their ls. People will still cancel dynamis, limbus, sea, sky, or any other ls event to go DA. And when this zone is released, they will cancel "Salvage" as well.

[Sasarai]

Janice go fuck yourself stupid pos, you should learn japanese so i can make fun of you 8)

Enjoy the forthcomming Faggot related avatar.

After reading it over again, I think it sounds pretty damn cool. Like Limbus only without the need to have mission requirements, and seeing as its instanced just about any group could get together and do it for fun.

[Purplenv]

if they play the "limitations" well, they can really create something intriguing gameplay-wise...

18 ppl doesn't mean 18 jobs total, so I can already imagine groups carefully chosing how to assemble parties depending on Salvage they chosed...
no stats/no weapons/no gear = go go Pets 8)
other might be TP burn based, or magic based, etc...

it's fun that, as COR, i'd only need ja unlocked to do my job 75%

Fixed.

With no weapons (dagger/sword/gun/bullets) it would be pretty hard to do that 25% of stuff we do on top of rolls.
Iono about you, but even in Limbus (which would likely be the closest current comparison) I do a lot more then just rolls.
(You can't Quick Draw without a Gun and bullets equiped)

[Matricide]

this is shitty for people like me who like to log on after work, gather for dynamis, and goto bed/go out after.

also tired of SE making things challenging by taking a buncha stuff away from you, that wasnt creative the first time.

[Zilong]

Janice go fuck yourself stupid pos, you should learn japanese so i can make fun of you 8)

I don't understand the words you just said, try speaking American, it's the only language I understand.

[Janice]

this is shitty for people like me who like to log on after work, gather for dynamis, and goto bed/go out after.

also tired of SE making things challenging by taking a buncha stuff away from you, that wasnt creative the first time.

Well before, removing subjobs from CoP dynamis was basically just a gimmick. Didn't really add any challenge since you unlock them right away and forget about it. If it is able to add a challenge while not being insanely stupid and almost impossible to do anything, then it might be good.

Dynamis mobs are relatively strong compared to other mobs so the limitation was a pain in the ass. If these salvage mobs are more like limbus strength, then losing some abilities, armor, subjobs won't be an annoyance.

[Gwynplaine]

http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/4711/apkw8.jpg

That's with the "virgin" bonus, so granted its somewhat atypical however you can get the better part of 2k easily.

Edit: lol at Janice's sig...

[BerenTebogo]

2 runs of counting sheep lv5 or 6 Leujom I forget = 2200 AP

It's seriously 99% impossible to get less than 5/5 sheep with 3 people in that run, if you're assault experienced you know which runs give even better points with a little bit more risk.

Bottom line is ok MAYBE we won't be able to grind it every day. So what? Can you grind limbus / dynamis every day? Can you sit down and attempt to HQ expensive items every day with no monetary reprecussion and 100% reward? Or can you claim Nidhogg 7 days a week with no competition, cuz I know I can't.

The point is there are plenty of way more unreasonable limits in place in game already, assaults are wicked fun if you go with friends / LS members. I'd rather Assault daily and run Salvage every other day than pay 50k to farm Apollyon whatfuckingever every 3-4 days (although will still be doing limbus all the time obviously.)

Let's just hope they don't drop the ball on the rewards.

[JMunin]

adventurers must wait until midnight (Earth time) before they will be allowed to purchase another.

Everyone gather together 2 hours before midnight, finish salvage, 20 minute break, salvage again.

[Obev]

http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics...147/1147_3.jpg

Whatever that is, it's a big win in my book.

[ringthree]

Mamool Ja level 2 Assault, 2 DD with shadows and a mage = 1k AP every time.

Plus you get a decent amount of XP too. And have time to kill Puks for chains.

[Kuya]

http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics...147/1147_3.jpg

Whatever that is, it's a big win in my book.

It looks like ugh....

Its looks like um...

A giant shoe.

[Vedder]

This looks pretty cool.

LOL at the people complaining about acquiring enough AP to do it... shoulda been doing Assault all along. Even if you have been cashing out points to buy items, you should still be in between 0-3000 AP in at least some of the areas... thus allowing you to Salvage day 1 and then be smart about your points from there on out so you can go as often as you are able.

Also, I think this will have the effect of at least stabilizing the prices of the 3k, 5k, 8k, and 10k AP items at the auction house. They might even rise in price a bit for the couple of weeks after Salvage is released. That would be good news for people that can't get Salvage groups together right off the bat... by allowing them to make a little gil with AP items.

Win all around, it would seem.

[SassiAsura]

I used to trio Mamool Ja PSC easy. I got to a point where I'd almost flawlessly dodge the firespits

got 900points each run XD

[Vedder]

It looks like ugh....

Its looks like um...

A giant shoe.

Watch out! Don't aggro that Giant Timberland!!!

[Kyreth]

http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics...147/1147_3.jpg

Whatever that is, it's a big win in my book.

It looks like ugh....

Its looks like um...

A giant shoe.

As long as it's special attack isn't landing on your head, I have no problem with that. Nice model though, I've always thought S-E's been good at making weird and cool monster models.

[safer]

im hoping they pool assault points together somehow, i dont really see the connection between the remnants and the assault SP counters... 5 assault and 4 remnants, (well 2 of those assaults are linked to caedarva mire, maybe those count together)

sorta sucks cause i was just starting to save up to get my full yigit set.. took a month break and only recently started up assaults again

[Kuya]

http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics...147/1147_3.jpg

Whatever that is, it's a big win in my book.

It looks like ugh....

Its looks like um...

A giant shoe.

As long as it's special attack isn't landing on your head, I have no problem with that. Nice model though, I've always thought S-E's been good at making weird and cool monster models.

Oh I agree.

Its a pretty cool shoe.

[Suiram]

I'm looking forward to dozens of new 100-page threads on these forums like

[ Poll ] Who should get STR imbued potion, WAR or DRK?

[Xaru]

Only thing that is kinda dumb is the weapons lock thing. Melees go in and their weapons are removed. Well some jobs have hand-to-hand skill so at least they can do something right away.

How is that any worse than magic lock? As a BLM I won't enjoy being rendered silenced. I'll have to work on my staff skill now.

However when we enter and Dual Wield and Ninjutsu are locked I'll take a special moment to chuckle at all of the GenericMelee/NIN that entered with me