Ninja's ninja update.

[Medivac]

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Just farmed a coffer key in Castle O on my THF, The Ninja YAG definatly missed multiple ranged attacks -while i was in range- with /nin

Guess they fixed it?

Aren't you the guy that used to spam Lower Jeuno with a Casino?

Yes it is 2 and a half years since I was on Seraph, but I still remember you.[/quote:cd7c3]

owned, akroma probally thought his blink was up

[Coldone]

I've noticed the change in firespit as well. It seems very random, several times I had just recast Ni and it does firespit and I take damage and all shadows erased. Other times I have 3 shadows up and they absorb it entirely. If I have 2 or less shadows, I'll always take damage, but sometimes it will take my remaining shadows and sometimes it doesn't.. very random.

[Sidanoir]

Since at this point in time they made PLD so retardedly fucking strong, they need to bring back the old Utsusemi for NIN main! *dreams*...

I mean come on...do they really want PLD to tank everything only? Cause nowadays little reason to have NIN tank over PLD, except for NIN/BRD on some stuff..

Ranged Attack always seems to have lower accuracy...and then they make it guaranteed shadow..

Nothing like eating Fang Rush for 1 shadow...or it missing completely while shadows were still up either...

I really miss WS being able to miss with shadows up :/...whats the point of NIN evasion if only to be used for normal melee/no shadow conditions?

BTW I also miss the Goblin Rush that used to do 1/3rd damage and count as 1 hit nice programming error SE too bad they fixed that :/

So in conclusion, if you are an allakazham person, whine about NIN Utsusemi and get us buffed up again, since PLDs are just stupid at this point >.>

[Cephius]

Since at this point in time they made PLD so retardedly fucking strong, they need to bring back the old Utsusemi for NIN main! *dreams*...

I mean come on...do they really want PLD to tank everything only? Cause nowadays little reason to have NIN tank over PLD, except for NIN/BRD on some stuff..

Ranged Attack always seems to have lower accuracy...and then they make it guaranteed shadow..

Nothing like eating Fang Rush for 1 shadow...or it missing completely while shadows were still up either...

I really miss WS being able to miss with shadows up :/...whats the point of NIN evasion if only to be used for normal melee/no shadow conditions?

BTW I also miss the Goblin Rush that used to do 1/3rd damage and count as 1 hit nice programming error SE too bad they fixed that :/

So in conclusion, if you are an allakazham person, whine about NIN Utsusemi and get us buffed up again, since PLDs are just stupid at this point >.>

Not sure where this post is coming from, but almost everything these days is NIN tanked, not PLD. All the new ToAU NMs are primarily nin tanked, Tiamat is NIN tanked only, in fact there are very few things that can't be nin tanked these days. Hell, I can't even remember the last time I saw a PLD tank in lolsky. As long as you're fighting something that isn't a MNK mob or something similar, a NIN will always be more effiecent tank (especially now since /brd can hold hate off pretty much anything but a PLD going crazy) since they don't get hit.

If you're seriously whining about PLD being a better tank than NIN against bibiki bay goblins, you need to get over it >_>

I'm not sure what you're complaining about, but NIN has no right to whine. It's clear to ANYONE who's saw a PLD tank pre-update that the job needed a boost to compete with ninja. I say the PLD update is made of win, as it opens up new tanking options to PLDs who were benched beforehand.

[Sidanoir]

My server other HNMLS pretty much use PLD/NIN, RDM/NIN BRD/NIN

Not NIN..

As far as my shell we used to NIN tank everything pretty much but nowadays we find ourselves with our normal NINs not around much and PLD tanking is more convenient.

I am not saying NIN cannot tank stuff...thats far from true...but it seems SE Is trying to make it so that PLD is a better tank than NIN in all aspects.....
Seeing as how PLD/NIN is more than enough hate on pretty much everything..

I am not complaining really, I am glad PLD was updated to be stronger, this update is made of win, this discussion was about Utsusemi and I brought up how NIN used to be...and sub NIN too , and see what SE has done to PLD and wonder if NIN is next to be "rebuffed"

[Cephius]

My server other HNMLS pretty much use PLD/NIN, RDM/NIN BRD/NIN

Not NIN..

As far as my shell we used to NIN tank everything pretty much but nowadays we find ourselves with our normal NINs not around much and PLD tanking is more convenient.

I am not saying NIN cannot tank stuff...thats far from true...but it seems SE Is trying to make it so that PLD is a better tank than NIN in all aspects.....
Seeing as how PLD/NIN is more than enough hate on pretty much everything..

I am not complaining really, I am glad PLD was updated to be stronger, this update is made of win, this discussion was about Utsusemi and I brought up how NIN used to be...and sub NIN too , and see what SE has done to PLD and wonder if NIN is next to be "rebuffed"

Well from that it sounds like you're using PLDs only cuz your Ninjas aren't online, hehe

I don't think its a surprise that PLD is meant to be the main tank job in FF, it's what the job is all about and what it's geared for. A Ninja can do other things besides tank, it has good solo ability and is probably the 3rd or 4th best DD merit job. A PLD reallllly has to struggle to merit and needs exceptional gear/merits to do any kind of decent DD. The job is made for tanking, and I don't see what the problem is with making sure they're the best choice to tank things.

As far as utsusemi goes, it's still great and in all honesty it was overpowered before things could eat multiple shadows. Now its a challenge, but if you play your cards right it does things just as well as it did before. If anything, giving a level 37 mazurka made ninja more powerful, not less.

[Sidanoir]

If anything, giving a level 37 mazurka made ninja more powerful, not less.

I doubt SE sees it that way..they probably still don't realize people sub BRD to tank..or main job BRD to tank >.>

I doubt anyone talks about that crap on Alla, if they did i am sure they would nerf it!

And yah...I am pretty much the only NIN reliably online...and I am usually needed as RDM <.< so its pretty much forced PLD tanking.

[Coldone]

Pld was very buff before and now even moreso, very few things do we use nin tanks for really, Tiamat is usually tanked for us with 2 pld/wars and 1 nin/drk. Most other things are pld tanked for the most part unless short on pallys. Nin can still tank things just fine, but so could pld before, now plds are just crazy.

[Sidanoir]

Pld was very buff before and now even moreso, very few things do we use nin tanks for really, Tiamat is usually tanked for us with 2 pld/wars and 1 nin/drk. Most other things are pld tanked for the most part unless short on pallys. Nin can still tank things just fine, but so could pld before, now plds are just crazy.

Hrm I forgot cold is back now (well when i made that post I did ) so thats 2 NINs, gtfo PLDs!

[Lyramion]

Tanking shit as NIN and PLD team is best anyway

[Mysterio]

Tanking shit as NIN and PLD team is best anyway

Theres no "I" in team, linkshells are about ego and opportunity. LOL