dalm vs. morrigan vs. marduk

[Alleya]

WHM don't care either.

Well...maybe if the fastcast is better than nashira manteel for haste/blindna.

[Silmarwen]

Wish those Marduk shoes were equippable by RDM =(

[Septimus]

Wish those Marduk shoes were equippable by RDM =(

Marduk shoes are sexy good Red Mage time, but I think I could sleep well at night with the Morrigu shoes. (Mmmmm... +10 MND...)

[Rocl]

The moment I saw Marduk shoes the first thing to pop into my mind was:

"No way these would be equippable by RDM but if so..."

I'm still overjoyed with Morrigan though, the shoes are still better than anything I could of imagined.

[Naver]

I'm not a BLU, but seeing that some of the spells have mods for STR MND and INT, this peice is a winner. Not only that, but the ACC and ATK as well. Magic ATK bonus + Refresh + INT and MND for BLM seems a bit comparable to Genie Weskit, though if this had Elemental Magic+ on it, clearly Morrigan > Dalma and Weskit. For RDM, hmm not to sure, but this will end up being mostly a macro peice. AF1 body still owns mostly everything out there from what I've seen. Maybe a great solo peice for RDM, unless you're the type of RDM that bursts MB on HNMs >_>

Marduk for BRD is probably the ultimate body peice right now. Only downside is no -enmity but that shouldn't be an issue. For any SMN with 1000+ mp, 3% is 30MP so right there 30hp 30mp refresh MND+12 and Fast Cast > Dalmatica's MDB+5 -50hp +50mp Refresh and lolResist Paralyze. As for WHM, this might contend with an Aristocrat's Coat, but I would probably still choose Cure Potency over anything really. But if the MND+12 comes out to the same as the Cure Potency as Noble's or Aristos, then Marduk's by far for the refresh and fast cast.

Seems SE made a bright choice this update.

[Suiram]

I don't think you'd use it for the STR on BLU, since I think Blue Magic Skill +15 does more for damage on physical spells than STR+5, at least as I understand it. And assuming that Blue Magic Skill affects magical spell accuracy the same way the analogous magic skills affect accuracy, I doubt they'd use it for that either since that's the only piece in the game at the moment a BLU can get +Skill from. But it would be cooler-looking than verm. cloak to equip when you're running somewhere.

[Delekii]

I think if Igqira weskit was actually still worth anything, Id probably sell mine when I got that body

Its also kinda ironic, Im actually quite glad now that I wasnt there for a couple of Abodies I could have lotted on - I have no use for a dalm now once I get Morrigans..

[Bluedemon]

RDM - Morrigan
BRD - Marduk
WHM - Marduk
SMN - Yinyang Robe
BLM - Tough call...

I like weskit for BLM still because of the elemental magic skill. I'll admit though I'm rather uneducated on how Magic Accuracy works for a BLM. I semi-retired the job prior to SE introducing this stat.

Refresh effect on a BLM is also nice but meh. I can usually find time to rest frequently anyway and I normally just slap on a black cloak when I need that extra refresh effect.

[layoneil]

WHM - Marduk

AF2, Noble's Tunic?

[Kilik]

Wouldnt BLM want the full Morrigon set for nuking? Im not a BLM, but from looking at the stats on each piece they seem better than what BLM wear nowadays (with exception of maybe the af2 pants).

[spooky]

OMFG YES @ Morrigan set!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! whoooooo hooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
I'm a happy bunny. :D Also thanks for inviting me back to BG. I missed reading these forums ; ;
Now back to stalking Rocl. >.>

[Septimus]

OMFG YES @ Morrigan set!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! whoooooo hooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
I'm a happy bunny. :D Also thanks for inviting me back to BG. I missed reading these forums ; ;
Now back to stalking Rocl. >.>

Science damn it. Who let him back in? >_>

[SassiAsura]

What's left for mages on kings that's worthwhile? :O

[spooky]

OMFG YES @ Morrigan set!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! whoooooo hooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
I'm a happy bunny. :D Also thanks for inviting me back to BG. I missed reading these forums ; ;
Now back to stalking Rocl. >.>

Science damn it. Who let him back in? >_>

You know you love me really. :D
omg i've just seen morgan set in dat viewer... !!!!!!! it's so sexy! XD

[spooky]

What's left for mages on kings that's worthwhile? :O

Nothing! :O Well, really it depends on how much of a loot whore you are I guess. >.> Personaly I'd just like full Zenith with the hope one day of being able to NPC store it. lol

[Septimus]

What's left for mages on kings that's worthwhile? :O

Getting Ridills and Defending Rings for other members of your linkshell or yourself if you leveled a second job.

(Kings were never very good for mages to begin with.)

[Bluedemon]

WHM - Marduk

AF2, Noble's Tunic?

True enough, I can agree to that.

As for BLM nuking in full Morrigans, I guess it depends on how good the MAB is, but it definately looks promising. I still like Yigit hat over Morrigan's Coronal but looking at the big picture, it'll have a better pay off if that MAB bonus is more than 2%.

Only think that I don't like about the set, is its lack of -emnity. Its a pretty minor set back though considering you could really start stacking -emnity in other slots now (ie. Hedgehog Bomb & Amnity Cape) to make up for it. Realistically though how many *omggottahavemyepeennumbers* BLMs would actually do that though?

[Kilik]

WHM - Marduk

AF2, Noble's Tunic?

True enough, I can agree to that.

As for BLM nuking in full Morrigans, I guess it depends on how good the MAB is, but it definately looks promising. I still like Yigit hat over Morrigan's Coronal but looking at the big picture, it'll have a better pay off if that MAB bonus is more than 2%.

Only think that I don't like about the set, is its lack of -emnity. Its a pretty minor set back though considering you could really start stacking -emnity in other slots now (ie. Hedgehog Bomb & Amnity Cape) to make up for it. Realistically though how many *omggottahavemyepeennumbers* BLMs would actually do that though?

Yea I was assuming the set bonus is somewhere between 3-5. If its any less than that, combination of yigit/af2/zenith would probably be better for big numbers.

Does magic accuracy help BLM much? There's a good amount of it on the Morrigan set, so even that may help with consistently high nukes even if the MAB is 1-2 lower.

[Khamsin]

Personally, I wouldn't consider Dalmatica any better or worse than Morrigan for RDM.

Even if I had Morrigan for refresh, I would still macro swap to Errant/Mahatma body for MND build enfeebling. Even if I decided to sacrifice 2 MND to keep refresh on for the 2 seconds it takes to cast an enfeeble, I'd still keep errant body for resting so I'm not saving any inventory space.

The only thing a RDM can do that they might actually wear Morrigan body for is nuking. Beyond that, since they won't wear it for enfeebling, it's just a refresh piece for whenever they aren't enfeebling or nuking. Same as Dalmatica. As for melee RDM, there's better body pieces (AF2 for utsu/stoneskin casting, pahluwan or SH for melee, and dalm is fine for DoT kiting, etc.).

In the end, I think it comes down to whichever piece you think is more available to you. Some will find getting Dalmatica easier than upgrading to Morrigan body. Some will never see a Dalmatica, but can easily get Morrigan.

[Naver]

I don't think you'd use it for the STR on BLU, since I think Blue Magic Skill +15 does more for damage on physical spells than STR+5, at least as I understand it. And assuming that Blue Magic Skill affects magical spell accuracy the same way the analogous magic skills affect accuracy, I doubt they'd use it for that either since that's the only piece in the game at the moment a BLU can get +Skill from. But it would be cooler-looking than verm. cloak to equip when you're running somewhere.

http://www.neko-sentai.com/images/BlumageNFO.htm

Courtesy of Gulkeeva.

Skill+ would probably be the choice for most, but I would wonder what a STR mod that high can produce on certain spells.