Salvage: Zhayolm Remnants

[aurik]

Any reliable translation for the 6th floor?

Babelfish'd it kind of sounds like they killed all 12 gears and the chariot, but it's kinda hard to tell.

Aircommand isn't on right now, I'll try to catch him sometime and ask him.

If you do, tell him about "Gyroscopic Gears" in SS 3F east (drops Enyo's Mask), he's still missing that info on his otherwise excellent charts.

[Proxim]

Sorry if i miss post about lvl 15 gear drops. Do they drop off regular mobs? or mobs that are located on 4th floor only? Does anyone know?

[Klapaucius]

Bodies of knowledge, and science in general, can always benefit from confirmations, even if it's nothing particularly new:

The second floor definitely, without a doubt, does open up entirely after killing everything in the room where you land.

Our party did this zone a few hours ago. We cleared the SE side along with the Poroggo, then we did almost all of the NE route and a few random ones to the NW and SW. We took the SE portal up. On the second floor, we killed several (six, I think) lizzies.

The other three doors didn't open.

The puller then ran back to the room and found two lizzies that we had neglected to kill, pulling them to our camp near the teleporter.

The three doors still didn't open.

The puller then brought the Mamool Ja to the party. As a BRD, I had plenty of free time, so I ran around the doors and clicked them furiously. Once the Mamool Ja was dead, the doors popped open. I ran a quick gauntlet around the doors, and it seems that all three doors opened up at the same time: the moment when the Mamool Ja from the first room died. They were all already open when I visited each one; either the doors opened automatically or my party opened them before I got there.

I would've tested some more hypotheses, but unfortunately our party wiped due to a bad pull on the third floor, and we could not recover in time.

On a side rant, could anyone explain to me why a MNK would need to lot on an Undulatus cell when RNGs and BRDs were still missing theirs? I haven't the slightest clue. /rant off

[Faranim]

Sorry if i miss post about lvl 15 gear drops. Do they drop off regular mobs? or mobs that are located on 4th floor only? Does anyone know?

They don't drop from either of those. I don't think any lv15 or 35 gear has been found except for whatever the 3rd floor North Poroggo drops (Lv 15 Ares and Morrigan Hands)

People are assuming that ALL of the Lv15 and 35 gear drops from the Poroggo Madames. But very few of them have actually been discovered how to pop.

If it doesn't drop from Poroggo NMs, the only thing left would maybe be some of the Rampart Reinforcements (Marids, Slimes, Tigers, Hecteyes, Torama, Manticore). I think everything else in the zone has been killed enough times that we can rule them out as dropping gear.

[Not Kuno]

Do the marids really drop stuff? I skipped killing them like 5 times now because of time. <.<

[Faranim]

Do the marids really drop stuff? I skipped killing them like 5 times now because of time. <.<

I don't think the Marids do... but I've only killed like 4 total. I don't know how many of the other summoned mobs have been killed, it's never been mentioned before. Somebody would have to try farming them and see if they can get any drops.

[Not Kuno]

Do the marids really drop stuff? I skipped killing them like 5 times now because of time. <.<

I don't think the Marids do... but I've only killed like 4 total. I don't know how many of the other summoned mobs have been killed, it's never been mentioned before. Somebody would have to try farming them and see if they can get any drops.

I think we got a marid from most of the "1,2,3,4". What other ramparts would pop a mob? Never had the 3rd or 5th floor one (I think those are the right floor numbers, the one below the numbered 4 and the one above that floor) use reinforcements so no idea what they pop out.

Also clearing the large room of gears + big rampart in the south doesn't pop anything special. Maybe the north one does? But triple gears are gay as hell. '~'

[Faranim]

Hmm..

3rd Floor South Rampart pops a Tiger. Killed it once and no drop.

4th Floor Ramparts pop Marids. Killed 4 total with no drops.

5th Floor South Ramparts in the dead-end room pop Slimes. Never killed any of the Slimes (timed out). The room has 3 Ramparts: the Middle and Right ones spawned Slimes... the left one died before summoning anything. All 3 Ramparts dropped item chests with nice drinks (Oracles, Fighters, etc).

6th Floor Ramparts pop Manticores.

I would guess that the North path has the Torama (3rd floor) and Hecteyes (5th floor)?

I honestly don't know if these summoned mobs have anything to do with dropping gear... but there's really not much else to check. Who knows, maybe some of the Poroggo Madame get summoned by the Ramparts?

[Not Kuno]

Oh and incase anyone didn't know, Rampart don't agro but they link with gears. 4th north is also Marids.

[Suiram]

Oh and incase anyone didn't know, Rampart don't agro but they link with gears. 4th north is also Marids.

Do you know if this is true of all Ramparts? If so it'd make bypassing rooms in some other zones a lot easier, too.

[aurik]

Oh and incase anyone didn't know, Rampart don't agro but they link with gears. 4th north is also Marids.

Do you know if this is true of all Ramparts? If so it'd make bypassing rooms in some other zones a lot easier, too.

Not true of all ramparts, the ones in upper arrapago aggro to proximity or sight, not sure which, but definitely chased after our thf when he didn't do shit to it.

[Ehran]

3rd Floor South Rampart pops a Tiger. Killed it once and no drop.

4th Floor Ramparts pop Marids. Killed 4 total with no drops.

In our run last night we killed the third floor Rampart, and all 4 Ramparts on the 4th floor. We received two Zhayolm Cards, one on the 3rd floor, and one on the 4th floor.

Each time we received a card, the Rampart was killed before it used "Reinforcements." Is this a condition for getting the cards, or did we just get lucky?

[Uzor]

I bet SE decided to be annoying and make the poroggo madames only spawn if you didn't kill the poroggo madame on the previous floor or something like that ; ;

[Therin]

It's so funny the first time you voke the Archaic Chariot on floor six.

@_@

[Kaeko]

Don't know if this was posted already but...

Cleared all gear and gears mobs on floor 6 + 2 ramparts. Chariot was not killed. No NM popped - so you either have to kill the chariot as well, or more than likely there is some gimmick/order involved in popping it.

[Kaeko]

Also can anyone confirm which is correct for unlocking the sixth floor door (to the boss)? I've gotten 2 different reports...

1) Clear Archaic Chariots on floor 5 and 6
2) Clear the entire 6th floor - chariot, rampart, gear, gears.

Anyone know which is correct?

[divisortheory]

Has anyone ever killed only the chariot on the 6th floor and nothing else?

[divisortheory]

Anyone feel like translating?

意外と削れないです。狩青黒各1名だし、近接しようにも範囲が痛い…。まぁ、バフラウもこのくらいで何 とか削れるのでちまちま行こうと思った次の瞬間。

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ちょｗｗｗｗｗまｔｔｗｗｗｗ

事前情報で3000クラスというのは聞いていましたが、バフラウみたいに正面に立たなければ大丈夫かと高を くくっていたら、正面に居なくても普通に発動します…。さらに前方範囲だから後ろに立っていれば大丈夫 かと思ったら、

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あばばばばｗｗｗｗ

2人まとめて轟沈。どうやら敵中心かターゲット中心範囲の模様。しかも複数で受けても単純に3000÷人 数ではなく、補正で弱くなる程度。ガ系魔法と同じような計算なのかな？　ともかく盾が2人とも沈み、なすす べもなく終了。これだけの進軍特化構成で残り15分ということなので、一体どうしたものかと相 談した結果、

召喚士の投入を大決定(゜Д゜)！！

リヴァイアサンの履行で回復＆攻撃維持で食らう頭数を増やす作戦です。ついでにHPの多いモンクも数名盾の ところに配置して殴ったり殴らなかったりしてみることに。(履行で一緒に回復。)
果たして上手くいくのでしょうか…。次回に乞うご期待！(いつになるか分かりませんｗ)

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次は必ず…

If you're thinking about posting a babelfish translation, please don't.

Also I know this is a few weeks old, but from my limited Japanese he seems to be saying some stuff that I don't think anyone has ever mentioned.

[Julian]

Haven't been online much, and Aircommand usually not on during NA times >< gonna see if I can catch him this weekend

[aurik]

Haven't been online much, and Aircommand usually not on during NA times >< gonna see if I can catch him this weekend

While I'm at it, can you ask him where he got info about Arrapago lv35 drops (ares mask, usukane hakama, ares body)

Drop screenshots would be ideal.