Salvage: Zhayolm Remnants

[Moonguard]

"Hitted" is not proper grammar or spelling btw. Were your tanks standing on top of each other? You may have been in 10' from one monk, but not the other which would cause for the confusion. Otherwise people were running out of range, no other explanation.

English isn't my first language Yes, I stood on top of my cotank. I did target the others before attacking too and they was still 9.4. I just find it strange, the 1st Discoid could probably be because we messed with the distant. But the 2nd was fine, then 3rd and 4th was weird again. I can't rule out they suddenly moved a bit, and no one just wanted to admit it. I'm just following what they said (that no one moved).

Anyway, I'll try 8.x next time just to be safe.

[cdgreg]

Make sure also you weren't using a new BRD who runs way out from the main "group" to ballad.

[Moonguard]

Hm, wouldn't that still make Discoid hit the others except the brd?

[cdgreg]

Hm, wouldn't that still make Discoid hit the others except the brd?

Yes, but just one more variable to eliminate =)

[Valyana]

Make sure also you weren't using a new BRD who runs way out from the main "group" to ballad.

I always move a few steps out of Discoid range to Ballad, and then move back in. What else would you do? Pianissimo Ballad 4 healers?

[Delayed]

Make sure also you weren't using a new BRD who runs way out from the main "group" to ballad.

well other than ballading the group first and then singing to the tanks, what else is there for him to do?

you hit the main group with ballad you're in range of the monks if you dont want to move outside of discoid and that means they lose songs... =\
moving out of range for the songs is pretty much only way to keep things going smoothly.

[cdgreg]

I always move a few steps out of Discoid range to Ballad, and then move back in. What else would you do? Pianissimo Ballad 4 healers?

Don't normally have 4 healers. But i was thinking more along the lines of Pianissimo if doing it with 5ish people, or moving out/ballad'ing directly after a TP move instead of whenever the brd felt like it may avoid some issues.

[Darkmoon]

I typically song the melee, then wait for a TP move then bump out, Ballad once, go back in wait for TP, bump out Ballad 2. If I see a discord starting and I'm casting Ballad I push back in range fast.

[Ratatapa]

Hello after i finally got the 25 feet from SSR boss, i have to work on the 15 to finally complete the Piece, but i have never done it and this thread is like 85 pages

Can someone tell me here or in PM' a full strat on getting/killing the 4th floor frog.

Strat on what to farm (cell) and Jobs are welcome.

Thank you

[fishstix]

If this is your only goal, can be done with less if you're well gear/skilled but: mnk thf rdm brd. Really helps if you have the .dat mod for names.
1F- Farm the 2 cell dropping mobs in the inner room until you have enough weapon/sj/magic/ja, port NE.
2F- Clear the lizards, kill the mamool, kill a cell mob from each wing, port.
3F- send the THF or BRD to the north portal while everyone else goes west and farms some cells. Port up before the 30 minute mark.
4F- Have the thf sac pull, monk chi blast claim the NM off the train.

If you have a full party, you can probably throw in a boss fight if you farm less on 2F and more on 3F for HP cells, because after this NM is killed, there's like 60 minutes left.

[mackerel]

Or if you care about your thf in the slightest, have him Hide instead of sac.

[Ratatapa]

so the frog pops in the Porrogo X16 room, um i see

[Ratatapa]

If this is your only goal, can be done with less if you're well gear/skilled but: mnk thf rdm brd. Really helps if you have the .dat mod for names.
1F- Farm the 2 cell dropping mobs in the inner room until you have enough weapon/sj/magic/ja, port NE.
2F- Clear the lizards, kill the mamool, kill a cell mob from each wing, port.
3F- send the THF or BRD to the north portal while everyone else goes west and farms some cells. Port up before the 30 minute mark.
4F- Have the thf sac pull, monk chi blast claim the NM off the train.

If you have a full party, you can probably throw in a boss fight if you farm less on 2F and more on 3F for HP cells, because after this NM is killed, there's like 60 minutes left.

Thank you so much, we had some problems but pulled it off

Missed time for gear so didnt farm head,hands,legs. Abd the brd went to close onm madame pulled and wipe once but recovered and did it np

Thank again so much

[Suiram]

Does 5F south require one full unlock or two, does anyone happen to remember?

[Kaiyoko]

Just one and one of my friends group did N and everyone logged except the unlocked person and it made the frog pop they told me. So with both sides you could unlock only 1 person I believe.

[Suiram]

I'm aware of the logout glitch, although it seems to be unreliable from various testimony here, but just to clarify, were you saying it's only one unlock if you use that glitch (two otherwise), or that it's just one person without any trickery, in the way that 5N is normally three?

[ringthree]

If this is your only goal, can be done with less if you're well gear/skilled but: mnk thf rdm brd. Really helps if you have the .dat mod for names.
1F- Farm the 2 cell dropping mobs in the inner room until you have enough weapon/sj/magic/ja, port NE.
2F- Clear the lizards, kill the mamool, kill a cell mob from each wing, port.
3F- send the THF or BRD to the north portal while everyone else goes west and farms some cells. Port up before the 30 minute mark.
4F- Have the thf sac pull, monk chi blast claim the NM off the train.

If you have a full party, you can probably throw in a boss fight if you farm less on 2F and more on 3F for HP cells, because after this NM is killed, there's like 60 minutes left.

You can get stats and HP from the Mamools on the fourth floor, just have to make sure you get the MP you need from the Mamools on the third floor.

[mdkuser]

Does 5F south require one full unlock or two, does anyone happen to remember?

One.

[Arximiro]

I have a question. On the fourth floor you need to kill the 1st 2nd etc rampart to activate the tele. Which one of the ramparts is the 1st 2nd 3rd or 4th on the 2 paths? I would assume it starts at the upper left but I wouldn't put it past SE to weird it up. Neither of the wiki maps have them numbered so I'm just curious. Thanks for any feedback.

[Kaylia]

I have a question. On the fourth floor you need to kill the 1st 2nd etc rampart to activate the tele. Which one of the ramparts is the 1st 2nd 3rd or 4th on the 2 paths? I would assume it starts at the upper left but I wouldn't put it past SE to weird it up. Neither of the wiki maps have them numbered so I'm just curious. Thanks for any feedback.

They are named "First Rampart", "Second Rampart"...etc.