Salvage: Zhayolm Remnants

[Scorp]

My group did Zhayolm tonight, and we ran into something interesting...

Frogs seemed to be taking 3x the magic damage they normally take.

We did not enter on Darksday, we entered on Firesday.

Also, myself and the other Monk were doing 25-30 during physical hits, so he tried using formless strikes, and instantly he was doing double-triple that per hit.

All in all, weird. Can anyone else confirm this is happening?

It is perfectly normal for the frogs to vary, if i'm remembering right then you'll see altered HP, magic defense and physical defense. As one goes up the other comes down. I don't however know what makes them act one way or another.

[Raelz]

It is perfectly normal for the frogs to vary, if i'm remembering right then you'll see altered HP, magic defense and physical defense. As one goes up the other comes down. I don't however know what makes them act one way or another.

Thanks for the reply.

Interesting to say the least. We've done at least 200 runs now, and the only time I've ever seen the frogs weak was on the standard Darksday run. Last night, it seemed that any non-physical damage was doing significantly more damage, at least 2 - 3 times the amount of damage than normal. Not to draw any ridiculous conclusions, but i"m wondering if Firesday has anything to do with it at this point. I'm going to get my group to test it by entering on a day other than Firesday, and then entering again on a Firesday. If it persists, maybe we've found another boon to timing Zhayolm farming runs.

Unless anyone has anything else to offer in this regard, then maybe I won't have to waste time waiting for day changes, heh.

[Mansin]

I have also noticed on several occasions that the 6F chariot has varying HP values. I haven't ever tested it, but it's killed in such varying times that I can't help but think it too has a similar variance as the frogs.

[fishstix]

I'm a believer of NMs and bosses spawning at different levels, but based solely on my ability to debuff it on bard, no real hard evidence >.>

[Kaia]

This confused me, so last Zhay run my group did we double checked to make sure our tanks didn't have any MP. Frogs still used magic hammer. Or did I misinterpret what you wrote?

You read it correctly, I guess it was just coincidence on my end. We didn't pay much attention when frogs were broken and haven't done much Zhayolm since the fix ^^;;

[Ultimagi]

Has anyone been able to do 3rd floor north and 6th floor Poroggo Madames in 1 run? Best way of doing this I can think of is to farm some stats on 3rd floor south and backtrack to north to kill the Poroggo Madame, taking the obvious Socket, Slot, 3rd floor, 5th floor, and 6th floor path.

[Kaylia]

Has anyone been able to do 3rd floor north and 6th floor Poroggo Madames in 1 run? Best way of doing this I can think of is to farm some stats on 3rd floor south and backtrack to north to kill the Poroggo Madame, taking the obvious Socket, Slot, 3rd floor, 5th floor, and 6th floor path.

We did this a while and timed out on mega at 20% or something. I forgot what was our setup, but it's definitively possible.


If your group is good at clearing first floor, it might be faster to just kill #1 and skip #5 (assuming no one need 35 from it).

[ringthree]

We did this a while and timed out on mega at 20% or something. I forgot what was our setup, but it's definitively possible.


If your group is good at clearing first floor, it might be faster to just kill #1 and skip #5 (assuming no one need 35 from it).

Yeah, I would do 1, 2, 2, 3 and 6, you will have plenty of time.

[Ultimagi]

Would floor 1 really be faster than getting 1 of each stat drop on floor 3, then going back to pop the other poroggo?

[Valyana]

I'd definitely go for 3FN if you're all-but-15 on ares or morrigan hands. 1F madame is more for random 15 farming so you have them in advance.

But the suggestion was to do 1F madame instead of 5F madame, which is probably faster; 5F can take a while if she's feeling charming.

[AmbroseFFXI]

Earlier in this post (early 2007), where the uses of .DAT modding is first discussed, someone writes that you should not use macros with <t> in them on mobs with altered names since this information is sent to the server. Is this still the case? Is there a work around that would allow the person with the modded .DATs to pull by means other than just aggroing? Or is the best way to have the person with the modded .DATs engage and have someone else /assist them and pull?

Thanks.

[mdkuser]

as explained by many posts, dat modding in this zone isn't necessary, since either way you'll probably link the mobs on 2F. Just pull the group of three on the far left in each room.

[AmbroseFFXI]

Which doesn't really answer the question of what to do if I am .DAT modding. I'm sure plenty of people here do. Thanks for the tip of the 3 mobs on the left on floor 2, I did not know that.

[Uzor]

personally I prefer 2F > 3F > 5F > 6F or 2F > 4F > 5F > 6F, depending on what you need. Both 3F and 4F are 100% drop on 2 or 3 15 items. Don't see why you would want to do 1F personally.

[Valyana]

I don't do 1F much, but it seems to me that the reason to do it is to avoid having to do a 4F run. A lot of groups aren't fast enough to both clear pathos off 3 members and port up to 4F in 30 min, so a 4F run becomes 2F > 4F > boss.

[Neosutra]

I don't do 1F much, but it seems to me that the reason to do it is to avoid having to do a 4F run. A lot of groups aren't fast enough to both clear pathos off 3 members and port up to 4F in 30 min, so a 4F run becomes 2F > 4F > boss.

Dont have to clear 3 pathos by 4th floor. Can just get 3 mp and port up before 30 min mark. Can get the rest of your stat cells off the mamool on 4FN.

[Weiing]

I used to have the dats for the mobs in this zone... but after reformatting, I forgot to save it. I know it's not necessary, but it helps a lot! Is there anywhere I could redownload it or can someone PM me how to do it manually? Thanks!

[Bishop1]

Can't post in advanced because some 25 post thing. First floor NM doesn't spawn anymore. I had people logout two times to make sure. I REALLY wish the bitches that got banned would STOP SNITCHIN. It's amazing how all of a sudden they fix ZR after people get banned. Stop being emo. They will NEVER unlift your ban no matter how much info you give them.

[Kroot]

Can't post in advanced because some 25 post thing. First floor NM doesn't spawn anymore. I had people logout two times to make sure. I REALLY wish the bitches that got banned would STOP SNITCHIN. It's amazing how all of a sudden they fix ZR after people get banned. Stop being emo. They will NEVER unlift your ban no matter how much info you give them.

this is all well know info and has been on the wiki and other sources for over a year. if anything this may have something to do with logging out to kill PW.

[Bishop1]

this is all well know info and has been on the wiki and other sources for over a year. if anything this may have something to do with logging out to kill PW.

It has NOTHING to do with PW. Have you ever done salvage?