Salvage: Zhayolm Remnants

[Suiram]

5th floor North, 30-35 needs an X

[Ayn]

5th floor in 30-35? Ouch..that's harsh.

My group also got to battleclad chariot for the second time last night (first for me -- in our first attempt, the door glitched and wouldn't let me through.. plus we only had 3 minutes left).

We timed out because we arrived with only about 6 minutes, but.. wow, you all really weren't kidding about this boss, with just two Monks and a NIN swinging away at it, we got it down to 38%. Discoid was a bit scary when there weren't enough people in range initially, but we corrected that.

I'm really eager to go back and try again. . and of course improve time management a bit, ha ha.

[Bleu]

also, what exactly can the archaic gears drop for cells? since we're going to be fighting like 12 gears on the 6th floor, if they do drop things like armor, then i'd be more inclined to skip the second floor and spend most of the time farming hp/mp on the 3rd/4th floors instead

Nothing. Cards only.

[safer]

ayn were you able to hit the 4F N madame as well?

[Ayn]

Nah, we went in with 14 people (well 13, one DCed) which was a mistake on my part. We did manage to breeze through the first floor in decent time, but by the time we got to the third floor, there just wasn't enough time. I didn't want to risk gimping ourselves totally for the boss.

I'll probably go back with like..6-8 today and just try to hit the frog NM. Maybe if we're fast, I'll try to hit the 5F north.

[Jaceot]

5th floor North 55-60 = X

Also on iceday we killed the third rampart which was getting hit by blizzard and thudner and maybe something else for 0, took us back to the 4th floor. The winner was rampart 2, didnt record its resistances. Though rampart one resisted fire aero and stone.

[Akanei]

I'll probably go back with like..6-8 today and just try to hit the frog NM.

Minus the slipup i made regarding poroggo AI (which cost us 15-20min to recover from) and having the last rampart we fought be the one to port us up (costing another 8-10), we can definitely do 4th floor madame and boss in one run, with 7 people.

[Mikayla]

I'll probably go back with like..6-8 today and just try to hit the frog NM.

Minus the slipup i made regarding poroggo AI (which cost us 15-20min to recover from) and having the last rampart we fought be the one to port us up (costing another 8-10), we can definitely do 4th floor madame and boss in one run, with 7 people.

Yeah, it's definetly doable. We managed it prepatch with around 12 iirc. Shouldn't be too hard with the new cell drop rates and a good deal of organization.

[Terrestrialrage]

Read back in the thread on recent info regarding the 4F Madame. From what i understand, the one that drops 15 Usukane feet only pops on North side, and pops if u get there in 30 mins or less? The Madame pops in the Poroggo room, so it needs to be sac pulled? For those that have killed it, what would u recommend farming to make killing this Madame managable, with 6 people?

[Ayn]

Correct. And yeah, it's doable with 6 people. I think we did it with 7 just so I could have a BLM for extra insurance.

Make sure to pull it faaarrr back (like into the teleporter room to the next floor. If it uses the charmga/frog thing, it'll slowly start to hop back to its spawn point, which is chock full of gents.

We managed a sac pull with a DRG that only had SJ locked (for flee) and no HP, so it should be doable. Only cells that were really unlocked were magic, ability, back/waist, HP for tanks, MP for mages.

We managed to get up to that floor in about 20 minutes, if that helps, while farming a few lizards, then a few mamools for HP.

[divisortheory]

Just got out of Zhayolm and 5F S wasn't up at 58, so I marked it off the table.

Tried to kill the chariot but gears were linking on it from all the way across the room.

In other news, zone was really easy. Got off the first floor in 15 minutes without using omgdatreplacement. 3rd floor cell drops definitely seemed higher than pre-patch, most mamool were dropping BOTH HP and MP. That was really rare before. 4F Madame dropped nothing.

At the time it was Windsday, so we hit First Rampart with Aero I and it did 0, but it didn't unlock the gate. We hit Second Rampart with Aero I and it also did 0, but this time we decided to try Aero II and Aero III also, they also did 0. That one did unlock the gate. So, if anyone cares to try

4F S - Windsday - Second Rampart

Can see if it works twice in a row.

[Crosis]

The Aero nuke might of just did 0 damage on the First Rampart because its a gimp nuke and sometimes they tend to do 0 heh.

But the Rampart according to the day should be like this:
First Rampart: Fire and Earth
Second Rampart: Wind and Water
Third Rampart: Ice and Thunder
Fourth Rampart: Dark and Light

[Xerlic]

5f S madame wasn't up at 53 minutes.

We beat boss on our second attempt (first attempt was a timeout) as MNK MNK THF THF BRD WHM BLM RDM. No 25 Skadi hands, though. =/

I was able to easily position people outside of range of Discharge and Inertia Stream, but it was really hard to get people within range of Discoid AND out of range of Diffusion Ray. Does Diffusion Ray have a longer range than Discharge and Intertia Stream?

[Garion]

Hmmm, we have got all we need from basic NM's (Save for lv 35 Marduk body ><) but we were having trouble getting a Zhayolm Card. I was wondering who can confrim which drop these. I have seen someone say it drops from 6th floor gears, but there are only 6, and that they drop from ramparts before they spawn a mob. Anyone else know which they can drop off? or have seem them drop themselves?

[Not Kuno]

I have personally seen them drop from the 3rd floor rampart, a 4th floor one (pretty sure it summoned something) and on a random gear on the 5th floor.

[Garion]

Done floor 4N twice now and cleared the mamool room each time. Don't know if its a change, or just chance, but both times we did it the room droped EXACTLY 1 of each stat cell and an HP cell. Nothing more with no duplicates of anything. Just seems kinda odd that the exact same cell set would drop from that room twice in a row, might be like that every time.

[divisortheory]

5f S madame wasn't up at 53 minutes.

Meh. If it's not up at at 60-65 minutes, which I don't think it will be, then we might have to go back to the drawing board

Personally I've always thought the 3 ramparts in the dead end room and the chariot are a little awkwardly placed. Why even have them there in the first place? Maybe it's related to those somehow. Or maybe it's a combination of things. Maybe you have to kill all 3 of those ramparts before the N minute mark, or kill all 3 ramparts having arrived at 5F in under a certain amount of time.

[divisortheory]

I found some JP website that appears to list every Lv. 35 drop in Zhayolm. It says:

Deimos's Leggings - 6F Poroggo Madame
Freya's Trousers - 4F S Madame, 5F N Madame
Hikazu Gote - 5F N Madame, 6F Madame
Macha's Pigaches - 4F S Madame, 5F N Madame, 6F Madame
Enlil's Tiara - 5F N Madame
Enlil's Gambison - 5F S Madame


Arranged by enemy, it's like this:

4FS - Freya's Trousers, Macha's Pigaches
5FN - Freya's Trousers, Macha's Pigaches, Enlil's Tiara, Hikazu Gote
5FS - Enlil's Gambison
6F - Deimos's Leggings, Macha's Pigaches


Edit: Also this group verified that 4F South Madame is up at 37 minutes. So I'm going to mark that on the map as wel. They also verified that 6F Madame is not up from 60-65, and that 5F North is not up from 60-65.

Hopefully this makes it easier to test 5F S 40-45 window. If you arrive at 4F S in 35-40 you can kill the Madame, then kill the correct rampart on the first try and should be able to get up to 5F before 45.

[divisortheory]

Just had an interesting idea. Since there are actually two separate versions of 4F North, what happens if you get to 4F in under 30 minutes, intentionally kill the wrong rampart, then warp to take you to the second version of 4F while still being under 30 minutes? Could this Madame possibly have different drops than the first? Should be very easy to test since it drops 3 things at 100%.

[Neosutra]

Couple questions about this zones boss:

I am reading that having tanks just tank it from the front, and have the entire alliance eat Discoid, pretty much handles this Bosses only quirk. My question is wont Diffusion Ray also hit our alliance? Or is the range different? Dont really want 500 damage Ray hitting our mages w/o hp unlocked.

Also, trying to decide wether to do the .dat switch to allow us to see which mob drops cells, but never messed with dats before. Where would i access these days? (Can number them and catalog which drop what myself, just dont have experience with the subject).