Salvage: Zhayolm Remnants

[Suiram]

Can you even get to floor 5 without opening 8 doors?

I think it's always either 5 doors or 8 doors. Always 2 on first floor, 1 on third, 1 on fourth (unless you repeat floor 4 north). Second floor you either open one door (not killing the mamool in the room you ported up from) or all four (killing the mamool).

I am sure we've done South path and almost sure North path, opening 8 doors in this manner, and never seeing the Madame on floor 5.

[Sagacious Sundi]

We know that the JPs have gotten Macha's Pigaches from somewhere... Where?

I'm gonna call:
4F South: Usukane
5F North: Feet
5F South: Marduk head
5F Chariot: Marduk body (If chariot's out of the picture, Marduk body->6F and I'll add Skadi to 4F south)
6F: Skadi

PLACE YOUR BETS. Also place your bets on who is going to finish Usukane set first.

[Suiram]

You keep posting these drop projections but I'd personally like to see at least one 35 drop before that kind of thing lol. Anyhow, regarding these purported JP Morrigan feet. What server was this on, Valefor? Were screenshots ever posted that were lost in the rollback? What's the character name and LS, maybe those of us who are curious can spam the LS community beta to see if he or she ever equips them. Going by the fact that nobody who posts here and is knowledgeable about Salvage seems to have even seen these things first-hand, I'm just going to assume for now that they were Goliard feet that someone's LS friend who knows little of Salvage or Nyzul mistook for Morrigan.

[Jaceot]

I notice in those three quotes everyone killed Porroggo Gents on the 4th floor. 2 cleared while My group only killed two. Maybe a random gent (or not a random gent, perhaps always the 4th on widescan or something) will make her pop on the next floor. Although someone might've posted that they cleared floor 4 and didn't see her on on the 5th floor. I know somebody used to clear the floors a lot looking for madames (probably aurik) but I didnt want to go search through all the forums.

[Sagacious Sundi]

You keep posting these drop projections but I'd personally like to see at least one 35 drop before that kind of thing lol.

I have nothing to do. This summer is boring. But that's probably what's driving me insane. No official reports on any drop.

[Suiram]

I notice in those three quotes everyone killed Porroggo Gents on the 4th floor. 2 cleared while My group only killed two. Maybe a random gent (or not a random gent, perhaps always the 4th on widescan or something) will make her pop on the next floor. Although someone might've posted that they cleared floor 4 and didn't see her on on the 5th floor. I know somebody used to clear the floors a lot looking for madames (probably aurik) but I didnt want to go search through all the forums.

Regarding the group from his LS that popped 5S

right, they never fought any frogs. i'm not sure about ramparts/marids, i'll have to check.

[divisortheory]

Can you even get to floor 5 without opening 8 doors?

door theory seems dumb to me. The guys I know that popped it opened 2 door on 1F, 4 doors on 2F (if you even consider killing the mamool to be opening 4 doors), 1 door on 3F, and 1 door on 4F. Pretty much the exact same thing that everyone else has been doing since the beginning of time.


If the elemental magic against rampart thing doesn't work, then I can't even think of any more reasonable choices except either random mob on 1, 2, 3, or 4, or Madame is random pop.

[divisortheory]

You keep posting these drop projections but I'd personally like to see at least one 35 drop before that kind of thing lol. Anyhow, regarding these purported JP Morrigan feet. What server was this on, Valefor? Were screenshots ever posted that were lost in the rollback? What's the character name and LS, maybe those of us who are curious can spam the LS community beta to see if he or she ever equips them. Going by the fact that nobody who posts here and is knowledgeable about Salvage seems to have even seen these things first-hand, I'm just going to assume for now that they were Goliard feet that someone's LS friend who knows little of Salvage or Nyzul mistook for Morrigan.

Server: Valefor
Character: Wangfu
Race: Tarutaru
Linkshell: DQAlliance

I have never personally seen the feet, a friend of mine originally told me he saw Wangfu wearing Morrigan's Robe, Morrigan's Cuffs, and Morrigan's Pigaches. Since then I have checked Wangfu multiple times and only ever seen him wearing Morrigan's Robe. He does not respond to tells. The guy who originall told me he saw them says he specifically hovered over the feet in the guy's inventory and says he saw the text "Morrigan's Pigaches". He is also in my salvage shell, so he does know a litle about salvage. That being said, I can't personally say it's true.

4F South: Usukane
5F North: Feet
5F South: Marduk head
5F Chariot: Marduk body (If chariot's out of the picture, Marduk body->6F and I'll add Skadi to 4F south)
6F: Skadi

You left out Morrigan. That being said, since all the other Madames drop multiple items, I think the same is probably true of the Lv. 35 Madames.

[Sagacious Sundi]

Feet include Ares and Morrigan, silly.

EDIT: So you're guessing that several drops would repeat like Arrapago/Bhaflau?

[Aemora]

I said it was a shot in the dark.

/randomtheory

Either way, I put all the succeeded runs in one place. If anyone else can see a link between them all, please find one :<

[divisortheory]

Feet include Ares and Morrigan, silly.

EDIT: So you're guessing that several drops would repeat like Arrapago/Bhaflau?

not necessarily. If there is no 6th floor Madame, then 4F S, 5F N, and 5F S could drop 2 each. Repetition is still a possibility though.

Can people post their drop rate on 4F S Madame? Maybe we could try to get an idea of how many times its been killed? I'm about 0/12ish on it.

[Vistani]

Does anybody happen to have a parse of or know the number and type of mobs they killed in zhayolm runs and whether or not the 5f madame was up?

[divisortheory]

Can people post their drop rate on 4F S Madame? Maybe we could try to get an idea of how many times its been killed? I'm about 0/12ish on it.

I hope I'm not the only one killing this thing, lol. Seems like an easy way to make a discovery about Lv. 35 drops.

[Wizerd]

Can people post their drop rate on 4F S Madame? Maybe we could try to get an idea of how many times its been killed? I'm about 0/12ish on it.

I hope I'm not the only one killing this thing, lol. Seems like an easy way to make a discovery about Lv. 35 drops.

Unless it just doesn't drop anything. Which wouldn't really make sense, but who knows.

[Kaylia]

Can people post their drop rate on 4F S Madame? Maybe we could try to get an idea of how many times its been killed? I'm about 0/12ish on it.

I hope I'm not the only one killing this thing, lol. Seems like an easy way to make a discovery about Lv. 35 drops.

0/2 on it


I was thinking, did anyone ever played with 6th floor rampart after killing both frog? Maybe you need to kill both 4th and 5th before anything happen on 6th floor.

[Antithesis]

Divsortheory I have a small question for you. You said on one Zhayolm Run your group managed to pop 5th floor Madame. Did by any chance you pop 3rd and 4th floor madame but didnt kill them? or did you kill them? Since alot of test have shown nothing of the sort that 5th floor madame is timed base maybe it has something to do with the previous floor madames. Also we havent even gotten a conformation as to the even a report of a 6th floor madame and somehow I disaprove of the exsitance of a 6th floor madame seeing how the sixth floor is such a "eventful-less" floor there might not be a 6th floor poroggo at all maybe all the remaing 4 sub-armors come from 5th floor madame or something. Until we can get proof of a 6th floor madame I wont really beleive that one on the 6th floor is a possibility.

[divisortheory]

Divsortheory I have a small question for you. You said on one Zhayolm Run your group managed to pop 5th floor Madame. Did by any chance you pop 3rd and 4th floor madame but didnt kill them? or did you kill them? Since alot of test have shown nothing of the sort that 5th floor madame is timed base maybe it has something to do with the previous floor madames. Also we havent even gotten a conformation as to the even a report of a 6th floor madame and somehow I disaprove of the exsitance of a 6th floor madame seeing how the sixth floor is such a "eventful-less" floor there might not be a 6th floor poroggo at all maybe all the remaing 4 sub-armors come from 5th floor madame or something. Until we can get proof of a 6th floor madame I wont really beleive that one on the 6th floor is a possibility.

None of 2nd (Socket), 2nd (Slot), 3rd (HP/MP) or 3rd (Lv. 15) were popped. 4th (South) was popped but not killed. 5th was up at the time of floor entry.

If there's a 6th floor madame, I think it's a rare spawn from the rampart and I think that's probably the way you pop the 6th floor QQTH in Arrapago as well (if it exists).

[Ambir]

Also it would "seem" to be impossible to pop both the 3rd and 4th floor North frogs, with the third floor needing 24+ mobs killed and the 4th floor requiring you to be there in <30 minutes.

[Mikayla]

Can people post their drop rate on 4F S Madame? Maybe we could try to get an idea of how many times its been killed? I'm about 0/12ish on it.

I hope I'm not the only one killing this thing, lol. Seems like an easy way to make a discovery about Lv. 35 drops.

We're about 0/3 on it at this point.

[Uzor]

0/1 here