Salvage: Zhayolm Remnants

[Narse]

The fifth floor madame wasn't up for them. And when they killed the 60th mob they didn't have much time left, they timed out shortly afterwards, but they did notice that the chariot did spawn upon killing the 60th mob. Maybe it's possible for the ramparts to spawn a madame after 60+ mobs have been killed?

As to what mobs are included in that, I'm not sure. I will ask when a particular member comes online.

[Suiram]

It could be a number of things, or it could be nothing. It may be 60 or it may be a different number of mobs for madame. But knowing that the exact # of mobs you've killed has some bearing on the zone in some way adds to the number of factors to consider when looking at reports of the madame being up, at a point where most of the stuff people have suggested have been disproved as having any bearing on it. It could be you need to port up to 5th floor having killed exactly X mobs, it could be that you have to kill less than X mobs to 'trigger' the rampart in 5N, and then kill X or more to pop the madame, it could be that you have to port up when the total # of mobs you've killed is divisible by Y, etc.

[mhmmimafreak]

just a heads up S chariot was up 2 x we killed 5FS madame

[Narse]

Well, it doesn't seem that actually porting up at the magic number is important.. Like I said, they ported up at 57 and it wasn't up, but while they were farming gears for cards, it spawned when they killed the 60th mob. I still haven't talked to the guy I want to yet, but it seems like they may be speculating that after 60 mobs, one of the ramparts may summon a madame, citadel-style.

[Suiram]

Not important for the chariot obviously, I was just suggesting a number of possible number-of-mobs related conditions that the Madames might possibly have, if anything.

[mhmmimafreak]

only thing i think is relatively interesting about that JP 100+ mob kill quote is they killed exactly 30 mamool ja

in our 5FS pops we never killed near 30 mamool but id say was rly good chance we killed 15 or 20 which is interesting to me cause those numbers r divisible by 5

5th floor madames popped by killing mamools in amount divisible by 5?

would make sense but SE doesnt "seem" to have done anything in zhal that makes sense or maybe were just all retarded

[Kaylia]

Here's a few problems I have with this theory (at least regarding the 5F S Madame):

1) When my friend's group popped it twice in a row they really did not kill a whole shitton of mobs. They did kill slightly more than I usually kill, but it wasn't anything phenomenal.
2) Kaylia's group yesterday killed a TON of mobs, so many in fact that they killed the 3F S Madame for HP/MP cells. Yet it did not pop for them.

Perhaps the chariot is a global requirement, and the Madame is a per floor requirement? Maybe Madame is 15+ mobs per floor. I have personally never killed 15 mobs on the first floor. I usually only kill about 10. Not to mention the 4th floor. Or perhaps the Madame has a range. Like 0-70 no pop, 70-120 pop, 120+ no pop

Edit: I'm going tomorrow, I will test killing 20, 20, 25, 10 mobs (75 total). I don't think more than 10 are needed on the 4th floor because my friend's group popped it by killing only the rampart and nothing else at all.

On top of my head, we killed 34 on first floor, 17 + NM, 28 + frog + rampart on 3rd floor, and 1 rampart on 4th floor. Take or leave 2-3 mobs, but it shouldnt be far from what we killed.

[Narse]

Talked to a person who went on the raid. He said when he ported up he widescanned, and only one rampart and gears were up. On defeating the 60th enemy, two ramparts and the chariot popped. They tried to zerg chariot down right after that but had gears link from the other room and ended up timing out.

EDIT: When tallying mobs, everything was included, pets and all.

[Narse]

Friend telling me they got WHM body from 5th floor S madame. More when I get more info.

[aurik]

Pics when you can please.

[Wizerd]

Pics when you can please.

Impossible for those on Remora, currently. Apparently, the player who got it has since moved servers, since the drop was a while ago I guess. I'm sure more will be found out about it soon but for the time being, I had a feeling it was too good to be true (at least true to the point of confirmable).

Someone said they'd seen this body piece on someone a while back right? Any idea what the name was? If so send me a PM.

[Waef]

It could have just been someone from a group who accidently popped something (they don't know how they did it) and just happened to get the drop.

[Narse]

Efimia was the person, was on Remora, but seems to have changed servers when the shift happened. As far as the drop goes, I can pretty much guarantee it was more on accident than planned. The guy who told me Efimia got the piece doesn't know what server he shifted to, but thinks it was Carbuncle.

EDIT: He got the body about 2 weeks before server change apparently..

[aurik]

well I'm gonna have to POIDH that, sorry guys

[Narse]

Pics ain't gonna pop it anyways, doesn't matter much. I'm much more interested in the 60 mobs spawning a chariot and 2 ramparts on 5th floor N anyways.

[Suiram]

Pics ain't gonna pop it anyways, doesn't matter much.

Pics of the 35 body and accompanying testimony that it dropped from 5S madame and people would figure out the exact conditions to pop it in under a week, I guarantee.

[Narse]

Pics ain't gonna pop it anyways, doesn't matter much.

Pics of the 35 body and accompanying testimony that it dropped from 5S madame and people would figure out the exact conditions to pop it in under a week, I guarantee.

Meh. I disagree, but I'll try to find out more, and hopefully come up with a SS. I find the 60 mobs thing much more fascinating though.

(for reference the person who told me about the Marduk 35 body being on the 5th floor S is a different person than the one I talked to concerning the run yesterday that revealed the chariot spawned upon 60 mobs defeated)

[aurik]

Yea I'm interested in that as well. If we have a throwaway run this week, I'll see if I can't waste it on Zhayolm and reproduce that quirk.

[Uzor]

I find it kind of odd... every time we've run past 5th floor, the chariot was up. And we've always killed way less then 60 mob, including pets.

[Wizerd]

I find it kind of odd... every time we've run past 5th floor, the chariot was up. And we've always killed way less then 60 mob, including pets.

You went South though right?