Salvage: Bhaflau Remnants

[Frodorn]

Sorry for the late response, but generally we do flying wamoura first then backtrack to everything (leader's idea). Personally I think we should kill Bifrons first and then go after the flying ones. But generally this takes up most of our time because some people end up dying on the way there =\.

Orz... no one should really Die on the First floor to the Bifrons... are you not bringing Hi-Pots or Looting the Chests?

As for Cells and Routes... we take the same path each time and really have No Trouble with Cells at all... a lot of the time we don't even farm floor 3 because we already have pretty much everything covered.

Here is what we do...

FLOOR 1

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Leg 1
On the first leg of floor 1 Bhaflau Remnants, you will be targeting ONLY the Bifrons and Trolls which drop cells for Weapon, Sub Job, HP, and MP. Before the Run begins we will determine one Rdm, Blm, and Brd. The Rdm will Lot the first Mp, and the Blm will Lot the 2nd

Leg 2
Once we Reach the first Large room we will Pull the 3 Wandering Wamoura each will Drop at least a Magic Cell and an Abilities. First Magic will go to the Rdm, Second will got the the Blm, and the Third will go to the Blm with Mp Unlocked, any others will go to Other Blms to Speed up the next Leg as fast as possible. Ability Cells will go to the Melees with Weapons Unlocked, and the Monks First. After Pulling the 3 Wandering Wamoura, we will also Pull the 2 Trolls then we back track killing the Wamouracampa. As for Gear Cell Lotting here on the first Ranged Cell will go to someone with Acid bolts, Second will go to the Bard with unlocked magic. All other Gear Cells will be Free Lotted, just get them out of the Pool ASAP, Once you Unlock a Slot Pass the Rest of them. If you get Doubles Get it Passed on to someone who needs it ASAP. Depending on if we Plan to Pop Floor 1 Rampart we will continue on with Leg 3 or Leg 4

Leg 3
If floor 1 Rampart is not our goal, a Whm or Blm without Magic Unlock will Continue on solo to the Porter and wait for the rest of the group to finish Farming the Wamouracampa. Once the Last Wamouracampa has Died they will Port up.

Leg 4
If we Plan pop Rampart on this floor, We will simple Farm our way back to Mad Bomber and beat his little Bomb face in. This will be skipped most of the runs to save time because of lack of interest in the Gear Dropped from the Floor 1 Rampart


FLOOR 2

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Leg 1
On this Floor we will start of by Killing 4 Flans, these Drop both More Abilities and Magic. All Magic Cells will be Collected by 1 person and used in the socket to Dupe more of them since we tend to be Caster heavy. If we Plan to Fight the Rampart NM on this Floor all 4 Flans Must Die while in "Angry" Mode, you can tell when that are in this mode when they have spikes on the top of their heads. If not we will simply kill them as fast as possible to move on.

Leg 2
Once the Flan have Died, We will Continue on the the Socket and Dupe the Magic Cells we just Received Hopefully completely unlocking Magic for the run. After the Socket we will Head south and Pull Tolls and Scorpions for more Weapon Cells, Depending on the Goals from the run we will pull as many as time will Allow.

*
If we are popping the Rampart on this floor, this is were it will pop if killed all 4 Flans in Angry mode, We will back Track to the Dormant rampart once we have Pulled the trolls and Scorpions from the Small Room.


FLOOR 3

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Leg 1
At this point we will all Invisible and head straight to the *. Many people may not have Sub or magic to Invis themselves. Please bring Powders.

Leg 2
This is the Last bit of Cell farming we will be doing. Here at the *, we will pull Flans to try and pick up Key cells we are still missing. Once start to move on we will continue on to the Porter.

*
If we plan to Pop the Rampart on Floor 3, this is where we will do it. To pop floor 3 Rampart you must Kill all of the Archaic Gears before they use there "Restoral" ability. This Ability is used to Regain Gears that they have lost during the Battle. At 50% they Drop their First gear, at 25% the Drop their 2nd. We will use a Strategy similar to what we do on Ninja in Dynimas. We will Melee them down to 60% gaining Tp. Once reaching this point we will use a Darkness or Distortion Skill Chain, and have all the Blm's Use their most Damaging Ice Spell and Zerg them down before they use Restoral. After the MB Blms will continue to Nuke and Stun to try and prevent Restoral.



FLOOR 4

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*
If we plan to pop the Rampart on Floor 4 will must Kill all 10 singles Gears before they can warp Away. The gear must be pulled with Ranged Attack. If these gears are linked, aggroed or pulled by any other means they will Warp Instantly. Once they begin to warp you can no longer harm them. From the Ranged Attack you have 45 Seconds to kill these gears. We will use a similar strategy as popping the rampart on floor 3, except we will not wait until 60% to start the Skill Chain, and blm will not both to stun, Simply nuke to their Hearts content!

Leg 1
If we are not Popping the Rampart on this floor will will simply run to where Leg 2 Starts, letting all the Single gears warp away harmlessly.

Leg 2
We will have someone Flee to the Porter to keep from having to fight more gears and the Archaic Chariot in the middle section of this map.

[ninjafox]

Yah that's what I think also, plus that mega dia they do is a pain. Its another reason I'd like to kill bifrons first and maybe get some chests with vicars, before we get some actual magic.

[ninjafox]

Sorry for the late response, but generally we do flying wamoura first then backtrack to everything (leader's idea). Personally I think we should kill Bifrons first and then go after the flying ones. But generally this takes up most of our time because some people end up dying on the way there =\.

Orz... no one should really Die on the First floor to the Bifrons... are you not bringing Hi-Pots or Looting the Chests?

We do bring hi pots, but generally its a mage whos not paying attention to where we're going and ends up getting aggro and we all gotta try to rush to save em before they get bashed.

[Wizerd]

Frodorn your Floor 2 Rampart location is wrong, that's where the Socket pops. The rampart pops where you killed the last Flan~

Anyway, that's the route we've been taking. We plan on having ~5 melee next time to help us get to the boss, so the first floor should clear out a lot quicker.

Edit:

Sorry for the late response, but generally we do flying wamoura first then backtrack to everything (leader's idea). Personally I think we should kill Bifrons first and then go after the flying ones. But generally this takes up most of our time because some people end up dying on the way there =\.

Orz... no one should really Die on the First floor to the Bifrons... are you not bringing Hi-Pots or Looting the Chests?

We do bring hi pots, but generally its a mage whos not paying attention to where we're going and ends up getting aggro and we all gotta try to rush to save em before they get bashed.

Aggro from...what? If you're killing the Trolls and Bifrons on the way, there's nothing left to aggro you. Unless said mages are retarded enough to miss-cast on a Wamouracampa.

[divisortheory]

We go SW on second floor because everyone is already capped out on equip cells from the first/second floor, and if we don't go SW then it's impossible to get stat unlocks in the zone (since nobody goes E on first floor).

[Not Kuno]

SE on second floor has stats also.

[divisortheory]

SE on second floor has stats also.

oh yea, forgot about that but isn't it only in the small inner rooms? There's only like 4 or 5 mobs there I thought. I guess either route is fine then, but I just prefer to not get lots of duplicate crap since everyone is already capped on equipment.

[Lhexh]

SW is much better for stat farming and ideally we take that path to finish subjobs/magic/stats. SE can get some basic stats if you are short weapons still and will fill out magic/subjobs easily as well.

[Not Kuno]

SE on second floor has stats also.

oh yea, forgot about that but isn't it only in the small inner rooms? There's only like 4 or 5 mobs there I thought. I guess either route is fine then, but I just prefer to not get lots of duplicate crap since everyone is already capped on equipment.

It's the same format. First room trolls/scrops drop hp/weapons/all stats. Second bigger room has hp/weapons/equip and some stats. Kind of shitty but if you dont want to go to the second bigger room you can pull from the north scrops for more stats.

[Frodorn]

Frodorn your Floor 2 Rampart location is wrong, that's where the Socket pops. The rampart pops where you killed the last Flan~

Thanks, I'll change that....

We don't ever really bother with Rampart 1~3, If we go here its either for Floor 4 rampart or LBC

[Wizerd]

We go SW on second floor because everyone is already capped out on equip cells from the first/second floor, and if we don't go SW then it's impossible to get stat unlocks in the zone (since nobody goes E on first floor).

The scorpions in the small rooms tend to unlock the important cells we need, and if they don't drop by the time we're done then, we figure we're already wasting too much time and say fuck it. If you need them badly, you can always pull from the NE room too, without consequence. It's nice to be able to sneak past the scorps instead of being forced to kill things in your way to get to the next set of things.

I think next run, though, I will base which way I go on the Bifrons/Troll drops; If we're short on HP and Weapons, we go East; If we're short on MP and SJ, we go West; If we're short in a well-rounded manner, we go east and just farm them on Flans.

The only stats I found that made a difference in my setup were CHR for the BRD, and VIT for the tanks. STR is nice but it won't kill you. It may slow down your kill by 3-5 minutes, but I'm usually hoping we're not cutting the kill that close anyway.

[divisortheory]

INT is the stat we're usually after, and SJ is the other killer we usually need. With our nuke/kite heavy strategy, we usually need a minimum of like 8-9 subjobs to function, and with 5 or so BLM we need a lot of INT cells.

BTW, does LBC build resist to Head Butt stun the same way he builds resist to the magic spell?

[Frodorn]

... we figure we're already wasting too much time and say fuck it.

There is the Key to all of Salvage... knowing when to say... "FUCK IT" and move on

[Wizerd]

... we figure we're already wasting too much time and say fuck it.

There is the Key to all of Salvage... knowing when to say... "FUCK IT" and move on

Well I don't usually scream it in all caps, but yeah.

[Bleu]

..but our Storm Fife BRD is gonna be on MNK instead, and we're using a BRD without it.

So.... Storm Fife actually does work?

The other two threads on it had people insisting that it both did work and didn't work.

http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17547

http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15234

[divisortheory]

It used to not work, but then it did again. After it started working, people were questioning whether or not it was a bug. If it still works, seems like maybe not a bug.

[Wizerd]

..but our Storm Fife BRD is gonna be on MNK instead, and we're using a BRD without it.

So.... Storm Fife actually does work?

The other two threads on it had people insisting that it both did work and didn't work.

http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17547

http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15234

Yes, it still works. My girlfriend was a bit bored last time she went BRD, so she spent the entire run confirming the effect of 5mp/tick ballad on herself, the RDM (who was getting 8mp/tick without refresh equipment on), the BLM, and the WHM.

It's quite handy to have. Other Assault: items work too.

[Lindstrom]

Might be worth it to repeat Extermination for some storm crackows, depending how you fight certain things, particularly LBC.

[Ryushii]

Ok, our BRD had alot of trouble landing requiem on LBC. Any reason why? Elegy landed easily.

[divisortheory]

Requiem is light based, and so are chariots.