Salvage: Arrapago Remnants

[Ayn]

Already spoke with Aurik, but had less success than him. Made it to about the 5th floor or so.

This is truly a zone where you're going to have to set your goals and pick *one*. The first floor takes so much time that it's ridiculous. What I did discover is that the psycheflayers have pretty shitty defense, so properly equipped DDs can take them out fast. This may reduce the need to wander so far around the first floor in an attempt to gain magic/JA cells.

I think I have a way down to get through this zone more efficiently, but we'll see.

[Sykes]

Did you kill the Qiqirn Treasure Hunter near the Psycheflayers?

[Akanei]

No we didn't.

When we pulled the psycheflayers right before, people ran up and popped abilities and magic.

...Yeah.

[Not Kuno]

I read over this thread and I have a few questions about the qiqirn guys.

From the looks of it they were all killed a few times (floor2 astro + the other TH ones) and nobody here has found any to drop. So where did the Ares body drop come from? Has anyone tried killed the supposed '3rd floor qiqirn' to get it to drop? It just looks like they were all killed alot but I havn't seen any hard evidence.

[Sci]

Well we're not sure if people are killing the correct Qiqirns. Just like Sykes has said and has been asking, which side have people been killing them on? They very likely are similar to the 3rd floor Poroggo Madames, if you kill the one on the South side, all you'll ever get are cells. The Poroggo Madame on the North side will drop lvl15 gear. From the horses mouth:

Has anyone killed the Qiqirn Treasure Hunter on the Soulflayer side of the 3rd Floor of Arrapago? Or any of the ones on that path beyond that?

I ask because I'm wondering if it might be similar to the third floor of Zhayolm where 1 of them drops cells and 1 drops armor. Since the maps are inverted, if this were the case, it would make sense that the north would drop cells and the south would drop armor.

[aurik]

I'd love it if someone tested that. I can't seem to get enough white mages in my group; I want 2-3 before we commit to the soulflayer side.

Here's my latest flawless(tm) plan:
mnk mnk mnk mnk thf rdm
mnk brd whm whm brd rdm
rng x6

First, send a rng to the southwest porter and have him camp there for when the floor is done.

Go to the southwest, kill the qutrub for head cell x2 for thf. If you get weapons don't give them to the thfs, they are your sac and TH bitches for the rest of the run. Kill the lamia for abi and magic. Then farm the southeast bones and lamia, farm the northeast bones and lamia. Then port up.

First abilities go to your monks. 1st magic to rdm, 2nd magic to brd and kick a mnk for the brd, 3rd magic to 2nd rdm, 4th to 2nd bard, now you can make 2 pts of
mnk mnk thf rdm brd whm
mnk mnk mnk rdm brd whm
rng x6

HP cells to mnks as they're going to need it. Save all the ranged cells you get.

On 2nd floor, clear the lamia ignore the qutrub, saving TP. If you have 2 or more saved up cells, trade them to the socket and have your monks WS / 100fist the nm.

On 3rd floor, go south and zerg the soulflayers and lamia. Give excess abilities to the rangers so that they can barrage and WS. They need to stand out of range at all times so I suggest using bow and demon arrows / kabura arrows. Excess magic cells go to the main mnks. If you fight the qiqirn, just do it in supreme ranger-zerg fashion.

On 4th floor, go straight to gears for SJs, if your mnks have unlocked magic then they are now your blink tanks. If you fight the qiqirn, just do it in supreme ranger-zerg fasion again.

5th floor, send 2 rangers to the end. 1 pulls the rampart away and shadowbinds, the other rushes the porter.

6th floor, clear whatever needs to be cleared to get to the boss. SJ to rangers. Boss can be ranger-zerged similar to how silversea was done.

[Not Kuno]

Do you think this zone can be done with two parties? I don't have a full alliance to bring in and I'm mostly interested in farming for the 35s. Would you say the qiqirns are possible with a smaller group?

[aurik]

Do you think this zone can be done with two parties? I don't have a full alliance to bring in and I'm mostly interested in farming for the 35s. Would you say the qiqirns are possible with a smaller group?

Absolutely. I usually go in with 8-10, as long as you have 2-4 monks you can get plenty done.

You need to get up to the 4th layer to start farming 15s. As of yet nobody's proved in a SS where the 35s drop--all we know is that some JP group said that they got ares body off of a 3f QQ, no verification and no clarification.

[Not Kuno]

Well that's the thing; I don't really need the 15s so much. I'm interested in the Morrigan/Ares body but it seems everyone is stuck here. If it's not the qiqirn where the hell are the 7 35s? ~.~ I havn't done this zone yet so I really can't contribute right now, just random thoughts. :/

[aurik]

Well that's the thing; I don't really need the 15s so much. I'm interested in the Morrigan/Ares body but it seems everyone is stuck here. If it's not the qiqirn where the hell are the 7 35s? ~.~ I havn't done this zone yet so I really can't contribute right now, just random thoughts. :/

Your guess is as good as mine, take a group in and try shit and let us know how it goes.

[Millael]

I'm currently trying to get a monk or two more for my group so I can try this damned zone. I've wanted to give it a shot for a while, but I figure that with one monk, it's kinda pointless. Is there anything else I can really use to replace monks? I've got a lot of Warriors, Ninjas, and rangers (Though it's a challenge getting them all to show at once), but I don't think I can really rely on their subpar H2h, can I?

[aurik]

pup can fill-in for a monk. not quite as good, but better than thf or war.

bonus is that if they get range+abi you get a puppet to dish as well.

[Lordwafik]

unfortunately nothing replaces a monk with abilities in this zone.

Phalanx 2 combined with counterstance is hax here. Counterstance alone is hax here, Phalanx2 alone is hax here.

PUP come close, but the mnks high skill combined with high Martial Arts, combined with their JA and JT is what make them work. Untill SE make another nude job work, it's mnks or nothing.

The up side is this is a zone where gimps will feel at home, so feel free to invite the erintribal mnk of choice on your server in.

[Millael]

My shell's PUP refuses to do salvage anymore, so that's right out, sadly. I suppose I'll try to gimp it tomorrow and see what I can pull off. It's a damned shame, too. I figured he'd jump at the opportunity to bring his PUP to something... but no such luck.

[Lordwafik]

lol princess pups, that's fresh, reminds me of anon drgs.

[Faranim]

One of our JP members said that the Ares Body dropped off the 4th floor QQ Treasure Hunter. This is still just hearsay, nobody really knows for sure. I don't know if it's only on North or South Side. Our group has never killed either of them. This is just what I heard.

If we're going with the whole "mirror of Zhayolm" theory, then the 3rd floor South QQ should drop some sort of equipment. We've only killed the 3rd floor North One and got DEX + AGI Cells.

[aurik]

I've killed the 4th floor north QQ twice and he's dropped stat cells both times.

Next time we go I want to go South.

[Ayn]

pup can fill-in for a monk. not quite as good, but better than thf or war.

I HAVE TRIPLE ATTACK ON THIEF, ASSHOLE.

[aurik]

pup can fill-in for a monk. not quite as good, but better than thf or war.

I HAVE TRIPLE ATTACK ON THIEF, ASSHOLE.

Here have a castallenus cell and go sac pull for us :wink:

[Ayn]

Hey I'm the tyrant here, I send people to do the dying, not die mysel--OO I GET A HAT?!