Salvage: Arrapago Remnants

[divisortheory]

Just had a crazy idea. Bear with me here lol. How much damage would Thundaga III (unbursted) do to a Qutrub? I know they take like double/triple damage from shit.

Would it be realistic to just Thundaga III a whole room of Qutrubs?

[Zilong]

Just had a crazy idea. Bear with me here lol. How much damage would Thundaga III (unbursted) do to a Qutrub? I know they take like double/triple damage from shit.

Would it be realistic to just Thundaga III a whole room of Qutrubs?

They have decent amount of HP to go with their damage multiplier, that and ga-spell damage is lowered with more target.

[divisortheory]

I think they have around 2,500 HP. Not exact, but seems fairly close based on how much damage we do per hit and how long it takes to kill them. Even if it didn't wipe an entire room, a couple melees could go in there and finish them off in just a few hits.

[futceez]

oh nice, that makes me think that perhaps Qiqirn Astrologer = Duplicatus, and Qiqirn Treasure Hunter = Cumulus perhaps throughout the entire zone.

Do you ever have more than 1 THF? If so, could you try to steal twice from the same mob?

Never had more than 1 THF but took us so long to kill the 3F QQTH that I used steal twice; first in succession, second in failure.

[Sci]

Just had a crazy idea. Bear with me here lol. How much damage would Thundaga III (unbursted) do to a Qutrub? I know they take like double/triple damage from shit.

Would it be realistic to just Thundaga III a whole room of Qutrubs?

They have decent amount of HP to go with their damage multiplier, that and ga-spell damage is lowered with more target.

Don't forget the BLMs won't have armor or staves, and will have that nice -INT. Rough guess on base damage would be maybe 700 with Thundaga III, so 1400 on Qutrubs. But I'm not sure what jobs they're really considered because of the triple attacking and high level ga spells from some. If they have BLM type INT, then probably less, and expect resists as well.

[aurik]

From our latest run:

LAYER1
Mcfly defeats the Lamia Dancer.
You find a praecipitatio cell on the Lamia Dancer.
Aurik defeats the Qutrub.
You find a castellanus cell on the Qutrub.
Aurik defeats the Qutrub.
Shuemue defeats the Lamia Fatedealer.
Aurik defeats the Qutrub.
The Lamia's Elemental falls to the ground.
Lordwafik defeats the Lamia Dancer.
You find a praecipitatio cell on the Lamia Dancer.
You find a spissatus cell on the Lamia Dancer.
Dumbask defeats the Qutrub.
Shuemue defeats the Lamia Fatedealer.
You find an undulatus cell on the Lamia Fatedealer.
Shuemue defeats the Qutrub.
Shuemue defeats the Qutrub.
Mcfly defeats the Lamia Graverobber.
You find a praecipitatio cell on the Lamia Graverobber.
Dumbask defeats the Qutrub.
Shuemue defeats the Lamia Graverobber.
You find a praecipitatio cell on the Lamia Graverobber.
You find a spissatus cell on the Lamia Graverobber.
Dumbask defeats the Qutrub.
Mcfly defeats the Qutrub.
Shuemue defeats the Qutrub.
You find a castellanus cell on the Qutrub.
Mcfly defeats the Lamia Dartist.
You find an opacus cell on the Lamia Dartist.
Aurik defeats the Qutrub.
You find a castellanus cell on the Qutrub.
Aurik defeats the Qutrub.
Aurik defeats the Qutrub.
Aurik defeats the Lamia Dartist.
You find an opacus cell on the Lamia Dartist.
You find an undulatus cell on the Lamia Dartist.
Dumbask defeats the Qutrub.
Mcfly defeats the Qutrub.
You find an incus cell on the Qutrub.
Mcfly defeats the Qutrub.

LAYER2
Shuemue defeats the Lamia Fatedealer.
You find an opacus cell on the Lamia Fatedealer.
Aurik defeats the Qutrub.
Shuemue defeats the Qutrub.
You find an incus cell on the Qutrub.
Aurik defeats the Qutrub.
The Lamia's Elemental falls to the ground.
Vistani defeats the Lamia Dancer.
You find a praecipitatio cell on the Lamia Dancer.
Aurik defeats the Qutrub.
Mcfly defeats the Qutrub.
Aurik defeats the Qutrub.
You find an incus cell on the Qutrub.
Shuemue defeats Vile Wahzil.
You find an incus cell on Vile Wahzil.
You find an incus cell on Vile Wahzil.
You find an incus cell on Vile Wahzil.
You find an incus cell on Vile Wahzil.
Vistani defeats the Qiqirn Astrologer.
You find a velum cell on the Qiqirn Astrologer.
You find a velum cell on the Qiqirn Astrologer.
You find a velum cell on the Qiqirn Astrologer.

LAYER3
Shuemue defeats the Reserve Draugar.
Aurik defeats the Reserve Draugar.
Shuemue defeats the Merrow Shadowdancer.
You find a praecipitatio cell on the Merrow Shadowdancer.
Lordwafik defeats the Reserve Draugar.
Lobo defeats the Reserve Draugar.
You find a cirrocumulus cell on the Reserve Draugar.
Lordwafik defeats the Merrow Kabukidancer.
You find a spissatus cell on the Merrow Kabukidancer.
Dumbask defeats the Reserve Draugar.
Aurik defeats the Reserve Draugar.
Shuemue defeats the Merrow Chantress.

LAYER4
Lordwafik defeats the Archaic Gear.
You find a duplicatus cell on the Archaic Gear.
Shuemue defeats the Archaic Gear.
You find a duplicatus cell on the Archaic Gear.
You find a stratus cell on the Archaic Gear.
You find a hoshikazu hachimaki on the Archaic Gear.
Lordwafik defeats the Archaic Gear.
You find a duplicatus cell on the Archaic Gear.
Aurik defeats the Archaic Gear.
Shuemue defeats the Archaic Gear.
Aurik defeats the Migrant Russula.
You find a castellanus cell on the Migrant Russula.
You find a castellanus cell on the Migrant Russula.
You find a pileus cell on the Migrant Russula.
You find a pileus cell on the Migrant Russula.
Aurik defeats the Archaic Gear.
You find a duplicatus cell on the Archaic Gear.
You find a stratus cell on the Archaic Gear.
Shuemue defeats the Migrant Russula.
You find a castellanus cell on the Migrant Russula.
You find a castellanus cell on the Migrant Russula.
Aurik defeats the Archaic Rampart.
Lobo defeats the Archaic Rampart.
Vistani defeats the Demonic Rose.
You find a stratus cell on the Demonic Rose.
You find a stratus cell on the Demonic Rose.
You find a stratus cell on the Demonic Rose.
You find a cumulus cell on the Demonic Rose.

No hp cells = unhappy people

[Ayn]

Similar shitty luck for us.

I wonder if "Armored Chariot" is some sick joke that's taken out quickly by anyone with even a remote inkling of being equipped?

[divisortheory]

I think I'm starting to see how to do this zone with 18 people.

First Floor
Divide into two groups of 9, with each group having 3-4 MNK. First group do SW > NW, Second group do NE > SE. Have both groups do all 4 lamia per wing before doing Qutrub. Only get 1 weapon per group, then stop doing Qutrub.

Second Floor
Although you can only farm 1 room, you can still do 2 enemies at once.

Third Floor
First group go West/South, Second Group go East/North. Exit through South.

Fourth Floor
First group do Soulflayers, Second Group do Archaic Gears. Everyone team up for Archaic Ramparts. After Archaic Ramparts, everyone team up for large Soulflayer.

Fifth Floor
Not sure, never been this high.

[Ayn]

I agree: The key is dividing up in a full alliance. Though honestly, I wouldn't go in with anything fewer than 5 Monks and two thieves.

[Lordwafik]

the reason it's not efficient is the lack of cells really. Unless the 18 people agree that only 6 people are getting cells. The mobs on floor 4/5/6 can put up some numbers, which will 1 shot people .


The zone needs major patching.

[divisortheory]

the reason it's not efficient is the lack of cells really. Unless the 18 people agree that only 6 people are getting cells. The mobs on floor 4/5/6 can put up some numbers, which will 1 shot people .


The zone needs major patching.

The reason you normally have such a high lack of cells is because you don't typically kill every mob in the zone. With this method you would be killing every mob in the zone. The third floor, for example, has an asston of mobs, most of which are normally skipped over. They also have a higher drop rate than 1st floor mobs. Of course you would still give certain drops to people who already had other specific drops rather than dividing them up, but the idea was that this would essentially double the total number of drops you get in the zone, by doubling the number of mobs you kill.

[aurik]

the reason it's not efficient is the lack of cells really. Unless the 18 people agree that only 6 people are getting cells. The mobs on floor 4/5/6 can put up some numbers, which will 1 shot people .


The zone needs major patching.

The reason you normally have such a high lack of cells is because you don't typically kill every mob in the zone. With this method you would be killing every mob in the zone. The third floor, for example, has an asston of mobs, most of which are normally skipped over. They also have a higher drop rate than 1st floor mobs. Of course you would still give certain drops to people who already had other specific drops rather than dividing them up, but the idea was that this would essentially double the total number of drops you get in the zone, by doubling the number of mobs you kill.

Au contraire, we kill virtually every zone in a particular path. Reviewing my run from a week ago, we killed:
-all lamia, 3/13 qutrub in SW
-all lamia, 9/13 bones in SE
-100% of mobs on floor2
-all mobs on floor3 south except the QQTH and the soulflayers (we were already freelotting magic/abil at this point)
-all mobs on floor4 except 4 soulflayers (again, no need for their cells)
-all mobs on floor5
-timed out on floor6

The only difference complete annhilation would have made is given us a few more waist/head cells (we were pretty much full on both) and more magic that we didn't really need.

If I chose to bring more people on this run, it would have been additional BLMs, WHMs, RDMs, MNKs. No other jobs welcome.

[divisortheory]

If I chose to bring more people on this run, it would have been additional BLMs, WHMs, RDMs, MNKs. No other jobs welcome.

I don't doubt that's the most effective way actually. Assuming a full turnout this Saturday, I plan to try this with 8 MNKs.

[aurik]

Cell drops in Arrapago and where to get them.

Incu: Qutrub
Prae: Lamia SMN/BLM/BRD/RDM, Soulflayer, Bhoot
Opac: Lamia COR/SAM/RNG, Soulflayer
Undu: Lamia COR/RNG/BRD
Dupl: Gear, Stolen from QQA

Humi: Draugar
Spis: Lamia SAM/SMN/BLM/RDM, Soulflayer, Bhoot, Rampart

Cast: Qutrub, Funguar
Ciro: Draugar, Manta
Virg: Gespenst, Chariot
Cumu: Rose, Chariot, stolen from QQTH
Radi: Rampart, Orobon
Stra: QQA, Gear, Chariot, Rose

STR: Sabo
DEX: QQTH, Treant, Nipper
AGI: QQTH, Sabo
VIT: Bhoot, Ghespenst, Nipper
INT: QQA
MND: Funguar
CHR: Sabo

[Kaeko]

How exactly do you guys kill the QQTH and QQA? It runs away so often and can regen back if no1 touches it and DoTs wear. We tried with 6 yesterday and the QQA (2F) ran away into one of the rooms we cant access. The 3rd floor one run so much and the path was so long it just ended up regening back everything.

Do you guys try to kill it quickly before it runs? Or maybe prevent regen with DoT?

[divisortheory]

For the 3F you can position a few people who can DoT along the path. That way you can make sure DoT is always on. For 2F, you just need a ton of damage, really fast.

[aurik]

I use hundred fists and make sure I start the fight with 100TP, never had a problem killing even with 2-3 DDs.

[Ayn]

STR and INT can also drop from 1st floor skellies.

[aurik]

Northwest 1st floor:
first room: 3q
first hall: graverobber
2nd room: 3q graverobber
2nd hall: q
3rd room: 3q dartist
3rd hall: empty
4th room: 3q dartist

Southwest 1st floor:
first room: 4q
first hall: dancer
2nd room: 2q fatedealer
2nd hall: q
3rd room: 3q dancer
3rd hall: empty
4th room: 3q fatedealer

[divisortheory]

Thanks. I got 4th floor done too. Doing the zone tonight with around 7 MNKs, hopefully I can get NE and SE down pat, as well as 5F.

http://kalia.ultimals.com/Salvage/Arrapago_Floor1.jpg
http://kalia.ultimals.com/Salvage/Arrapago_Floor2.jpg
http://kalia.ultimals.com/Salvage/Arrapago_Floor3.jpg
http://kalia.ultimals.com/Salvage/Arrapago_Floor4.jpg