@Mandau Ownders

[NynJa]

its not double or triple...heh


reason I asked was because the spike is huge. crits on WS bumps my dmg from 500-600 to 1200-1300 ? >.>

[Ohemgee]

Festivus for the rest of us!

What the fuck is a Wise Gear?

[Slott]

bs i had a 2207 fuckerhead

stupid wars needing madrigal fuckin w/ my dps yo

The war's are asking for Madrigal? I'm just hoping you're eating meat if you're also getting a madrigal in party...

And like Wafik said, it means you got a natural critical on your WS. Not that I have experience with the dagger (just ws) but yeah, that's how things should work.

i always eat meat in exp parties. have feint lvld 3 times so anything something with high evade comes I just use that. Trust me i kept bitching about the madrigal

[½pint]

bs i had a 2207 fuckerhead

stupid wars needing madrigal fuckin w/ my dps yo

The war's are asking for Madrigal? I'm just hoping you're eating meat if you're also getting a madrigal in party...

And like Wafik said, it means you got a natural critical on your WS. Not that I have experience with the dagger (just ws) but yeah, that's how things should work.

i always eat meat in exp parties. have feint lvld 3 times so anything something with high evade comes I just use that. Trust me i kept bitching about the madrigal

This was in a 2 BRD PT, asked for 2xMinuet March Madrigal instead of 2xMinuet 2xMarch. It's my fault for being gimped. I have since upped my sword skill 5x... I dunno, it makes very little difference to me.

Edit: This was on Colibri, and I was using Meat Mithkabobs

[Slott]

its not double or triple...heh


reason I asked was because the spike is huge. crits on WS bumps my dmg from 500-600 to 1200-1300 ? >.>

btw dont bugbears have a huge berserk type thingy? Severely drops their def for huge gain in attack (i know bugboy has it, i think the rest too) isn't a tp move either.

[½pint]

Slott let's PT.

[divisortheory]

This was in a 2 BRD PT, asked for 2xMinuet March Madrigal instead of 2xMinuet 2xMarch. It's my fault for being gimped. I have since upped my sword skill 5x... I dunno, it makes very little difference to me.

Edit: This was on Colibri, and I was using Meat Mithkabobs

2x March, Minuet, Madrigal probably would have been optimal.

[½pint]

This was in a 2 BRD PT, asked for 2xMinuet March Madrigal instead of 2xMinuet 2xMarch. It's my fault for being gimped. I have since upped my sword skill 5x... I dunno, it makes very little difference to me.

Edit: This was on Colibri, and I was using Meat Mithkabobs

2x March, Minuet, Madrigal probably would have been optimal.

It might have been that, I can't remember.

[NynJa]

its not double or triple...heh


reason I asked was because the spike is huge. crits on WS bumps my dmg from 500-600 to 1200-1300 ? >.>

btw dont bugbears have a huge berserk type thingy? Severely drops their def for huge gain in attack (i know bugboy has it, i think the rest too) isn't a tp move either.

bionic boost registers as "counterstance", cept i stole it once and my def didnt change

[Eaglestrike]

its not double or triple...heh


reason I asked was because the spike is huge. crits on WS bumps my dmg from 500-600 to 1200-1300 ? >.>

btw dont bugbears have a huge berserk type thingy? Severely drops their def for huge gain in attack (i know bugboy has it, i think the rest too) isn't a tp move either.

bionic boost registers as "counterstance", cept i stole it once and my def didnt change

I've stolen Berserk from Besieged Aerial Torpedoes and it doubled my attack and didn't change my defense. So yeah...lol

[Lordwafik]

My theory is that the initial WS strike can't have triple dmg go off, but double attack or triple attack strikes on WS can.

For example, my first pic in that fapworthy thread, I couldn't reproduce those numbers for the rest of the night, was coming close, like 2300 or so, but never 2500+ and I wasn't /nin, so it's not like my offhand tripled aswell. I'm guessing one of the hits in my triple attack did the 3x dmg, but not the first strike of the WS itself .

That or I crit twice in my triple attack going off.

[VZX]

Can you get double DA / double TA on WS? (i.e. you get extra 2~4 hits)
because the multi-hit WS calculator on Studio Gobli thinks this way.
I personally thought (since long time ago) that DA and TA can proc once (each) on WS

[Axil]

Wafik uses his Mandau primarily for dislodging astronomical turds from his rectum, or so he says

[Lordwafik]

Can you get double DA / double TA on WS? (i.e. you get extra 2~4 hits)
because the multi-hit WS calculator on Studio Gobli thinks this way.
I personally thought (since long time ago) that DA and TA can proc once (each) on WS

Each hand can do either double attack or triple attack , but they can't both go off on the same hand.

For example with mercy stroke, 1 hit WS, 4.5% TP return.

Single weild, non double/triple = 4% TP return on chatlog
Single weild double = 5%
Single weild triple = 6%
Dual weild non triple/double = 9%
Dual weild double = 10%
Dual weild triple = 11%
Dual weild Double in one hand triple in another = 12%
Dual weild triple attack in both hands = 13%

The last 2 are extremely rare. I've seen them all happen because i'm pretty much mercy exclusive. The only thing though, is I use a brutal earring, and it could in fact be triple attack going off and me missing 1 hit (annoying when I use assasin's chage and only getting double instead of triple attack).

I can't single weild and get 7% for example (representing double and triple attack). Can happen twice in WS but only once per hand, and the only people who are really going to see this on regular occasion are thieves.

[Royal]

you're a tp return.

When did Judah start posting here again? I thought he died of aids or something.

[Judah]

you're an aids.

[Royal]

Well your name is Judah, had I win bitch. It's 4 a.m. I fail.

[Judah]

you're an aids.

you're a retard.*

[Royal]

Your a nazi linkshell leader.

[Devek]

My monk can guard weaponskills..

I get tons of skillups on physical AoEs..

I bet bugbears guard more than I ever will.

Guard is like a negative crit hit.