Bye Bye Saddam

[Robert]

http://www.tinyurl.com/yzh77z

probably not for those with weak hearts and/or stomachs

different angle than the diluted footage being aired on CNN, I think it shows the neckbreak and him dying but I haven't decided whether or not I want to see it, if its been posted, sorry. I just woke up

[Falconblade]

shows nothing big. Shows him drop, then an awsome shot of blackness, then a close up of his face.

[Ace-o-fire]

It's on break too

http://www.break.com/index/graphic_sadd ... video.html

[xerodok]

anyone got any pics of the actual hanging? rather than the guy having a seizure that took the video. the tinyurl above was bandwidith exceeded so someone post it.

[Tekki]

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=863ce7d4a3

[-Omni]

What? Is my rapidshare not working? I posted the video about 7 hours ago, but here it is again for good measure.

Honestly, you can never be sure if anything on the internet is legitimate, but it seems pretty convincing to me. We'll just have to wait and see.

[Correction]

Didn't really care how they killed him, as long as it went down. Public, not public, stabbed with a broomstick in prison, i don't care. In the end, it has the same effect. It's just people like that ace-o-fire dude who thinks it was absurd to take "Mr. Hussien" (how the fuck you refer to him as "mr") out of power. While i may agree it wasn't our place to do so, it's easy to say that the world is better rid of him.

The victors write all the fucking rules huh?

It's nice that we get to spit on our enemies after we've beaten them but there's a really good goddamn reason we would be better off actually respecting shit like due process and human dignity, even in the event of an execution, and they're called POWs. We wouldn't want to shit on the corpses of our enemies because in the end we'd like to walk out of a war with just a little bit of our humanity intact, and because we would not wish the same fates on the men/women we lose as prisoners to the enemy during the course of a war. You wanna piss off the enemy and harden his resolve? Hang his leader after a circus of a court with unresolved charges still pending, let the executioner mock his death with a little dance after the fact and be horrible at securing the scene by letting some dipshit with a camera phone grab some unauthorized footage so it spreads out over the internet for all the MySpace generation to get their lulz.

Yeah, we yell at other countries for their gross abuses of prisoners. And yet this is how we treat heads of state, disgraced or not. Welcome to the French Fucking Revolution, I guess. Or more appropriately: Meet the New Bosses of Iraq. Same as the Old Bosses.

[Omaedon]

*looks around*
*checks his wallet*
*ponders and reflects*


Nope, life isn't any better with him dead. Just because one old man's neck got snapped on national tv does not make this world a better place. Please explain to why Saddam dying is such a big deal.

[Vinen]

*looks around*
*checks his wallet*
*ponders and reflects*


Nope, life isn't any better with him dead. Just because one old man's neck got snapped on national tv does not make this world a better place. Please explain to why Saddam dying is such a big deal.

So your wallet determines whether or not the world is a better place?

(I personally don't care either... I just find your statment highly amusing and selfish)

[Omaedon]

Good job understanding the point I was making, but since you want to comment;

My wallet is more real to me and brings me much more security and happiness than the death of an old man that I have never met, who in all the things he may or may not have done, has not influenced my life in the very least.

Another thing that is real is that most of the people who foamed at the mouth to see Saddam dead could see the same thing if they actually took a moment and thought about it.

[thetruepandagod]

My wallet is more real to me and brings me much more security and happiness than the death of an old man that I have never met, who in all the things he may or may not have done, has not influenced my life in the very least.

Another thing that is real is that most of the people who foamed at the mouth to see Saddam dead could see the same thing if they actually took a moment and thought about it.

im sure the kurds feel that way

[Omaedon]

They should, cause when they wake up in the morning their life is gonna be EXACTLY the same.

I would guess they know that just cause Saddam's dead doesn't it mean it's gonna rain kittens tomarrow.

[thetruepandagod]

i guess a chance car bombing killing u is the same as having a dictator gassing all ur friends and family for shits and giggles

[Kanai]

I agree. In my opinion if doing somthing changes nothing other than a few people's closure (and thats a nonexistant thing anyway) its not worth it.

[Demosthenes11]

They should, cause when they wake up in the morning their life is gonna be EXACTLY the same.

I would guess they know that just cause Saddam's dead doesn't it mean it's gonna rain kittens tomarrow.

You're right, we should let him run loose and continue the shit he has been doing. Honestly, what the FUCK is with some of these PoV I'm reading?

The victors write all the fucking rules huh?

It's nice that we get to spit on our enemies after we've beaten them but there's a really good goddamn reason we would be better off actually respecting shit like due process and human dignity, even in the event of an execution, and they're called POWs. We wouldn't want to shit on the corpses of our enemies because in the end we'd like to walk out of a war with just a little bit of our humanity intact, and because we would not wish the same fates on the men/women we lose as prisoners to the enemy during the course of a war. You wanna piss off the enemy and harden his resolve? Hang his leader after a circus of a court with unresolved charges still pending, let the executioner mock his death with a little dance after the fact and be horrible at securing the scene by letting some dipshit with a camera phone grab some unauthorized footage so it spreads out over the internet for all the MySpace generation to get their lulz.

Yeah, we yell at other countries for their gross abuses of prisoners. And yet this is how we treat heads of state, disgraced or not. Welcome to the French Fucking Revolution, I guess. Or more appropriately: Meet the New Bosses of Iraq. Same as the Old Bosses.

To even try and say us killing Saddam (which btw, it wasn't even the US) in a more "humane way" is going to give some of our POWs some mercy is absolutely out of line. Tell that to the soldiers that now have their heads cut off because they are "infidels." Yes, this death will piss off a lot of terrorists, but so did a fucking cartoon. There is NO appeasing the extremists except to become one of them and join the crusade for allah. Why the fuck should we go out of our way not to "offend" anyone. Due process was also followed in Saddam's trial, that's the reason we didn't hand him over to the Iraq government right away and let them beat him to death. He was found guilty of several crimes, and sentenced to death. We all know he deserved the ultimate punishment, whether you are against the death penalty or not (that's right, take the blindfold off).

The public execution was not even decided by the US, but by Iraq. That is how they do things. "Who are we to police their actions?"
He deserved to be humiliated like that because of all the horrible deeds he had committed. If I were a victim of his tyranny, I think I would have brought a bucket of shit and hurled it at him.

Micheal Savage wrote "Liberalism is a mental disorder." When I first read that line, I thought the man was completely nuts. As time wears on, however, you begin to wonder just how much truth that has to it

[Kanai]

They should, cause when they wake up in the morning their life is gonna be EXACTLY the same.

I would guess they know that just cause Saddam's dead doesn't it mean it's gonna rain kittens tomarrow.

You're right, we should let him run loose and continue the shit he has been doing. Honestly, what the FUCK is with some of these PoV I'm reading?

We all know that YOU know that isnt what he was saying. Stop using symantics and word games to prove your point. If you dont wanna talk about it in a calm intellectual manner then dont post, and if you insist on posting gb2/foxnews/

[thetruepandagod]

for all those against the death penalty for saddam. what would you have liked to happen? life in prison? a good whipping? community service..?

[Remedia]

spanking with live streams online.

[Kanai]

for all those against the death penalty for saddam. what would you have liked to happen? life in prison? a good whipping? community service..?

I oppose the death penalty de facto because it essentually accomplishes nothing. Every time i have ever spoken to someone who argues for its use they just run around in circles using flawed logic.

Im fine with it de jure because...honestly, it is sometimes better than alternatives.

But im not fine with people's justification of it as "Retribution" or "justice." The purpose of the law is not to do that. The purpose of the law is to protect the people from the people.

[thetruepandagod]

sounds kinky do we get to choose who administers the spanking?