War Rampage vs. Blu Vorpal, I'm cereal

[fantasticdan]

It'd be active in the off hand too.

Yes, but the crit+6% wouldn't be active for the mainhand in that case, unlike the 15 atk and whatever accuracy from the hanger, which would work for both hands.

[Alathar]

It'd be active in the off hand too.

Yes, but the crit+6% wouldn't be active for the mainhand in that case, unlike the 15 atk and whatever accuracy from the hanger, which would work for both hands.

That was his point. So it would be DMG vs. crit% since the new sword has more DMG (only useful on WS mainhand) but dissector has the crit% (only useful on WS mainhand).

[NynJa]

Bumping this since Blu just got a Maneater Sword, and im actually considering giving it another shot in merits.

Whats to say that works like Maneater ??
Maneater/Blau/Wagh are simply rare, these are rare/ex, not to mention theres an entire set of "Perdu" weapons.

And for the record, perdu in french means "Lost".

[Suiram]

Only 40,000 IS to find out for sure.

[fantasticdan]

Whats to say that works like Maneater ??
Maneater/Blau/Wagh are simply rare, these are rare/ex, not to mention theres an entire set of "Perdu" weapons.

And for the record, perdu in french means "Lost".

There isn't really an "entire set" of perdu weapons, just club, scythe, and sword. I have the sword, and yes it does work exactly like maneater/blau/etc; +15 atk, 44 base damage, and uncertain amount of acc(have to test more, but I have made a mob con from neutral to low evasion by swapping this sword in over one without acc), when TP is sub 100.

And I still don't understand what you mean by hanger not being useful for WS when offhanded, the atk/acc+ still activates in offhand, so the mainhand will get all those bonuses for WS. So it's not just crit vs base dmg for offhand during WS when comparing to dissector.

[SamanosukeShiva]

is it confirmed if the new IS weapon gives same effect like maneater type of weapons?

[Allundaria]

Sho posted a pic of the sword affecting attack based on TP in the BLU thread.

[NynJa]

yeah, I just saw that post now. I dont really look in the blu thread much these days.

my bad lulz.

[Judai]

Perdu/Ifrits(Demonslayer when soloing imps) imo

Dissector and Martial bonus' will not carry over to main hand I believe. So the +3STR +10 Atk from Ifrit's Blade should be better. Demon Killer is just too sex to pass up for Imps also, imo. (and I use Savage for them anyways)

[Celeras]

Perdu/Ifrits(Demonslayer when soloing imps) imo

Dissector and Martial bonus' will not carry over to main hand I believe. So the +3STR +10 Atk from Ifrit's Blade should be better. Demon Killer is just too sex to pass up for Imps also, imo. (and I use Savage for them anyways)

Talking about in an actual merit party.

Perdu Mainhand over Dissector, then? The earlier portion of the thread definiately advocated that Crit+% in main hand would be better then the damage ;x

I thought the base damage would be better too, but people said otherwise? Im so confused ; ;

[Judai]

I think 8 more damage would be pretty nice for mainhand but I could be wrong. The main reason Vorpal is so shoddy is the Swords generally have a much lower DMG then the axes, imo. I guess people will need to test it out. Unfortunately I won't get ahold of one for awhile, as I'm only LC atm;;/.(ppl keep ditching me on Assaults!) Need to rank up but now I have a perma for Nyzul starting soon and have to save 4 tags a week for it. 100k in IS and I can't get the sword;;.

Either way it's a great sword and will be a good addition to either Dissector or Demon Slayer or w/e ppl have lol.

[Celeras]

I think 8 more damage would be pretty nice for mainhand but I could be wrong. The main reason Vorpal is so shoddy is the Swords generally have a much lower DMG then the axes, imo. I guess people will need to test it out.

THATS WHAT I SAID ON PAGE 1 WHEN I STARTED THE TEST AND EVERYONE TOLD ME I WAS WRONG KSJHSDJKGYIUWEYTHGKSDJGBKSDGHKSDJGH.

But thats seriously what I thought, go back and reread the first page.

Im trying to think of it from a warriors perspective. Maneater, Juggernaut, Woodsville, Retributor(ok it slow, so maybe not). If you dont have a ridill/are using Axe/Axe... why would anybody in their mind pick a Woodsville to mainhand if Base Damage didnt matter? I know alot of pretty pimped ridill-less warriors, who could easily have a juggernaut if they wanted to. But they still mainhand a Woodville's, with Maneater being the obvious choice in the offhand.

If base damage didnt matter so much.. then wouldnt Maneater-Juggernaut SMOKE Woodvilles-Maneater?

I just don't understand why people are saying that logic doesnt apply to Vorpal?

[Delekii]

I'm pretty sure people do use Maneater/Jugger over Woodvilles/Maneater, hence why Woodvilles is so damn cheap these days?

[Celeras]

I'm pretty sure people do use Maneater/Jugger over Woodvilles/Maneater, hence why Woodvilles is so damn cheap these days?

Its only like 100k less then Maneater. No derails into war just because i applyed warrior logic! ;;

[fantasticdan]

Its only like 100k less then Maneater.

Probably because woodville's/maneater is the best axe/axe alternative(I think...) to maneater/juggernaut, and not everyone can afford the latter.

[Celeras]

Its only like 100k less then Maneater.

Probably because woodville's/maneater is the best axe/axe alternative(I think...) to maneater/juggernaut, and not everyone can afford the latter.

Yeah I was talking about i know people who COULD afford both, and chose to use woodville.

To try to stay on topic, Aura Statues at Ulli w/ Sis + MinuetIV netted vorpal highs in the 500s with Dissector main hand. Lows in the 100s when buffs wore. Base attack was 364 without the buffs, didnt get the new sword yet. WS'ed in Str63+55.

I'll post what I get on the same mobs when I actually get the sword(ill be living in shrine anyway). Was using Dissector/Ifrits, so in the interest of keeping things relatively similiar ill use Perdu/Dissector when I go again (so only a 5 base attack difference). I better crack 800 with the new sword, otherwise this has been a completely waste of time ^^