Who Would Win: Batman v. Superman

[Remyo]

Superman could win, if he really tried. Just throw the Earth into the sun.

that would kill everyone he loved, and he would be alone. Thats like the ultimate punishment for him.

[Jeryhn]

But the real question is... does Aquaman eat seafood?

I don't think he even eats, ony needs to be hydrated.

Also lol Aquaman

Anyone read the comic wear Aquaman (and the rest of the Justice League) gets injected with fear serum? Aquaman was afraid of water. LOLaquaman.

Batman did that if I remember right, along with a laundry list of other things to the other Justice League Members:

- Gave Superman a kind of kryptonite that made his skin transparent, and his innards burned because of the intensity of our yellow sun, rendering him helpless.
- Planted something on Wonderwoman that made her endlessly fight someone that she saw but wasn't really there.

Don't remember the other things atm.

[miokomioko]

What about Iron Man? Rich Man, hella gadgets, body suit, drunkard. He's an awesome guy, admit it.

I thought Iron Man's metal-encased body was a byproduct of some blast or some magnetic field orrr something, or I'm just pulling my Iron Man knowledge from overhearing Black Sabbath lyrics while playing Guitar Hero II.

[Mizango]

Superman could win, if he really tried. Just throw the Earth into the sun.

that would kill everyone he loved, and he would be alone. Thats like the ultimate punishment for him.

Just win baby!

-Al Davis

[Remyo]

What about Iron Man? Rich Man, hella gadgets, body suit, drunkard. He's an awesome guy, admit it.

I thought Iron Man's metal-encased body was a byproduct of some blast or some magnetic field orrr something, or I'm just pulling my Iron Man knowledge from overhearing Black Sabbath lyrics while playing Guitar Hero II.

Tony stark was captured by some evil guy, and was forced to build them a weapon. He built the suit and broke out. iirc.

[Remyo]

Superman could win, if he really tried. Just throw the Earth into the sun.

that would kill everyone he loved, and he would be alone. Thats like the ultimate punishment for him.

Just win baby!

-Al Davis

then he'd become like the silver surfer wandering around with only his thoughts. that would suck so badly.

[Scythiroth]

Superman could win, if he really tried. Just throw the Earth into the sun.

that would kill everyone he loved, and he would be alone. Thats like the ultimate punishment for him.

Just win baby!

-Al Davis

then he'd become like the silver surfer wandering around with only his thoughts. that would suck so badly.

This isn't about emotions and crap after the fight, its about winning!

[Septimus]

Actually, Superman isn't as smart as he used to be. After the original Crisis he was mostly straight-A's with a few B+'s smart, but not a MENSA-level genius IQ. John Byrne nerfed his IQ so that it would make more sense that Lex Luthor would fool him into opening a lead lined box every few months. (What a shock! There's Kryptonite in there, not puppies, candy, and fireworks like he promised!)

It seems that after the second Crisis they are retarding up continuity again with many of the things that pre-Crisis unreadable, such as Bizarro #1, Krypto, Bat-Mite, Zook, and non-green Kryptonite (I am waiting for the triumphant return of Proty the Super Protozoa any month now) so it seems that they are going to make Superman a super-genius once again. (And not worth reading.)

But anyway, the time that Superman actually beat Batman was because he was being telepathically controlled by the inexplicably villainous Maxwell Lord, so I don't think that fight even counts. Every time they have squared off Batman has won because Superman only knows how to fight with force, whereas Batman fights with cunning and finesse.

Seriously, a slightly slow 6th grader can out-strategize Superman.

[Ryko]

John Byrne nerfed his IQ so that it would make more sense that Lex Luthor would fool him into opening a lead lined box every few months. (What a shock! There's Kryptonite in there, not puppies, candy, and fireworks like he promised!)

lol

[Septimus]

Put spiderman out in the middle of a field, he can't really do a lot there. Neither could batman really. But how exciting is a fight that renders anyone's abilities useless.

Spiderman wouldn't entirely be assed out in a straight brawl out in a field, though his ability to find shit for cover to aid in his already increased ability to dodge and weave out of harm's way would be severely hindered. If anything it just gives the villain an easier way out if shit goes south in spidey's case, bats sorta has like 5 ways to get anywhere so that's not even an issue.

I think people forget that Spider-Man is really, really strong. Like puck up a bus and hurl it a block or two strong.

[miokomioko]

Batman fights with cunning and finesse.

you mean: grappling hooks, armor, slings, shiruken, darts, cars, aircraft, and martial arts training.

[BRP]

Superman is as good/lawful as Batman is as smart. You have to include that he would never kill Batman on purpose if you are going include Batman outsmarting him.

[Jeryhn]

Batman fights with cunning and finesse.

you mean: grappling hooks, armor, slings, shiruken, darts, cars, aircraft, and martial arts training.

And knowledge of chemistry, biology, mathematics, war strategy...

Need I go on? Batman isn't his utility belt.

[Mizango]

Superman could win, if he really tried. Just throw the Earth into the sun.

that would kill everyone he loved, and he would be alone. Thats like the ultimate punishment for him.

Just win baby!

-Al Davis

then he'd become like the silver surfer wandering around with only his thoughts. that would suck so badly.

True, but eventually you have to pick your poison. He can be forever known as a Candy striping snatch or he can wander aimlessly forever knowing he totally maxed his epeen. Self worth > Love. >.>

[Mizango]

John Byrne nerfed his IQ so that it would make more sense that Lex Luthor would fool him into opening a lead lined box every few months. (What a shock! There's Kryptonite in there, not puppies, candy, and fireworks like he promised!)

lol

LOL
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[Septimus]

I've never understood why people even like Superman. In my opinion, he is incredibly incredibly lame. HEY let's give him every single super power EVER and see what happens! Boooooooooring.

Because there are many people in the DC universe who are as strong if not stronger than Superman. The short list from as strong as Superman to way stronger: Lobo, Martian Manhunter, any Daximite under the yellow sun, Darkseid, the Spectre.

[miokomioko]

Batman fights with cunning and finesse.

you mean: grappling hooks, armor, slings, shiruken, darts, cars, aircraft, and martial arts training.

And knowledge of chemistry, biology, mathematics, war strategy...

Need I go on? Batman isn't his utility belt.

And thus is my point why Batman isn't super. He has nothing that anyone can't obtain through training besides his expensive gadgets. Bruce Lee might as well be a valid Super Hero.

[Ryko]

Put spiderman out in the middle of a field, he can't really do a lot there. Neither could batman really. But how exciting is a fight that renders anyone's abilities useless.

Spiderman wouldn't entirely be assed out in a straight brawl out in a field, though his ability to find shit for cover to aid in his already increased ability to dodge and weave out of harm's way would be severely hindered. If anything it just gives the villain an easier way out if shit goes south in spidey's case, bats sorta has like 5 ways to get anywhere so that's not even an issue.

I think people forget that Spider-Man is really, really strong. Like puck up a bus and hurl it a block or two strong.

Back at the end of the gathering of 5 saga where norman blows upt he daily bugle and he's sitting there holding it up by himself cemented that idea into my head. Although if I remember correctly someone says "he's holding up the building on his own!" and he thinks "No lady, I'm just holding this main support beam and hoping the building doesnt crash down around my head".

[Jeryhn]

And thus is my point why Batman isn't super. He has nothing that anyone can't obtain through training besides his expensive gadgets. Bruce Lee might as well be a valid Super Hero.

And I'm sure some people might actually regard him as such, as Bruce Lee is more or less the benchmark of what a martial artist can only accomplish in their dreams.

For your reading pleasure:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman

Skills, resources, and abilities

Batman is a superhero despite not having super-powers. His resourcefulness, insight, and years of rigorous training make up for the absence of any other special abilities.

Physically, he is at the peak of human ability in dozens of areas, notably martial arts, acrobatics, strength, and escape artistry. Intellectually, he is just as peerless; Batman is one of the world's greatest scientists, criminologists, and tacticians, as well as a master of disguise. He is regarded as one of the DC Universe's greatest detectives. Rather than simply out-fighting his opponents, Batman often uses cunning and planning to outwit them. He is arguably a Renaissance man in the sheer variety and depth of his knowledge and skills.

[Septimus]

Batman fights with cunning and finesse.

you mean: grappling hooks, armor, slings, shiruken, darts, cars, aircraft, and martial arts training.

And knowledge of chemistry, biology, mathematics, war strategy...

Need I go on? Batman isn't his utility belt.

And thus is my point why Batman isn't super. He has nothing that anyone can't obtain through training besides his expensive gadgets. Bruce Lee might as well be a valid Super Hero.

Batman is an Olympic level athlete with a genius-level IQ with doctoral-level knowledge in chemistry, biology, physics, forensics, computer sciences, and psychology. He also has Black Belt level mastery of several (can't remember the exact number) of martial arts with training in most every weapon, as well as advanced knowledge in escapology.

This is not something that your average human can do, I would go as far as to say that no human being could master that many things.