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    Fafnir / Nidhogg Statistics

    I was bored at work today, so I went through about a 5 month log of F/N posts and calculated some statistics about them. Data may be slightly off due to incomplete or inaccurate reports. We also don't care about Fafnir abjurations or equipment because they are all pretty much free lot.


    Total number of F/N pops: 151

    Total number of Fafnir pops: 126
    Total number of Fafnir pops claimed and killed by us: 51 (46.3%)

    Total number of Nidhogg pops: 25
    Total number of Nidhogg pops claimed and killed by us: 13 (52%)


    Loot Statistics

    Dragon Talon: 47 total - This should be 51.
    Dragon Scale: 40
    Dragon Heart: 25
    Wyrm Beard: 11 - Had more but they went to outside people
    Balmung: 6

    Ridill: 2
    M Body: 5
    E Body: 5
    A Body: 3
    N Leg: 2


    Statistical Breakdown

    - Out of 51 Fafnir kills, only 2 Ridills dropped. This puts the Ridill droprate at 3.9%. Pretty terrible.
    - Nidhogg averages 1.15 abjuration drops per kill. Only two kills had more than 1 abjuration drop, or a 13.3% chance of getting a double abjuration drop from Nidhogg. (*note, small sample size)
    - M Body and E Body seem to be the most common drop from Nidhogg, with a 77% chance of getting one or the other every Nidhogg kill. Pretty awesome if you ask me. (*note, small sample size)



    Overall, I knew Ridill drop rate was bad, but not that bad. That was the most surprising thing to me. Anyone else have any data to compare against mine for validity or general comments?

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    Bismarck got 5 Ridills in the past 2 weeks I think, all went to 1 LS.
    Unicorn's Nidhoggs didn't drop M.body since August, only 2 Dalmaticas and shitload of E.bodies and N.legs.

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    Re: Fafnir / Nidhogg Statistics

    Quote Originally Posted by volcanicweather
    Total number of F/N pops: 151

    Total number of Fafnir pops: 126
    Total number of Fafnir pops claimed and killed by us: 51 (46.3%)

    Total number of Nidhogg pops: 25
    Total number of Nidhogg pops claimed and killed by us: 13 (52%)

    Wow, thats alot of claims! Do you not have any competition at camps?

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    Re: Fafnir / Nidhogg Statistics

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluedemon
    Quote Originally Posted by volcanicweather
    Total number of F/N pops: 151

    Total number of Fafnir pops: 126
    Total number of Fafnir pops claimed and killed by us: 51 (46.3%)

    Total number of Nidhogg pops: 25
    Total number of Nidhogg pops claimed and killed by us: 13 (52%)

    Wow, thats alot of claims! Do you not have any competition at camps?
    We team up with a TW LS that allows us to camp 24/7. Competetion is pretty strong during NA time but rather weak in JP/TW time.

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    Total number of Nidhogg pops claimed and killed by us: 13 (52%)
    Id like to see the % of Nidhogg pops claimed by Neg, got it again recently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulfgang
    Total number of Nidhogg pops claimed and killed by us: 13 (52%)
    Id like to see the % of Nidhogg pops claimed by Neg, got it again recently.
    We are 1/7 on the last 8 Nidhogg pops. Negura has been dominating them, and I think Symbiosis got 1 of them and I know BR got that hyper one because Funk got E.Body for his 40 Warrior. :D (No hate, congrats, nobody in their ally could wear it.)

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    I would say ridill is more like 5%-10% and they were a little bit more unlucky than average.. For instance, my linkshell has seen 3 ridills out of about 30 kills. Guess you would need a really large sample size to prove it either way. From Nidhogg, Dalmatica has been the most rare..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stellar
    I would say ridill is more like 5%-10% and they were a little bit more unlucky than average.. For instance, my linkshell has seen 3 ridills out of about 30 kills. Guess you would need a really large sample size to prove it either way. From Nidhogg, Dalmatica has been the most rare..
    5-10%, your LS is 3/30=10%, and thats below average?

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    My ls a while ago had aery to ourselves for around 4 or 5 months- I really don't remember the time frame. I'm sure Ryko could give far more accurate numbers, as he seems to remember these things. I don't even remember what dropped from our faf last night.

    anyway, in our experience, ebody was our most common (our LS has recieved approximately 15 of them total), followed by kbody (8-9ish), then nlegs (5-7ish) and dalmatica (4). We've had double body drops perhaps 6 or so times, at least two of them were 2x ebody. The others were a split- nlegs/kbody, ebody/abody etc.

    As for ridill, I think we've had below average luck. I have no idea how many faf kills (must be more than 100) we've had total but we have had a total of I think 7 ridills. I'm not going to complain about the number, 7 is better than none for sure but other shells have definitely had more luck (though we seem to have had better luck than most on double body piece drops).

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    If you count total Nidhoggs:

    15 Ebodies
    9 K Bodies
    6 N.Legs
    5. Dalmaticas

    From Fafnir
    7 Ridills

    I think I might be off by one on the K.body count.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jooeetheplatypus
    Quote Originally Posted by Stellar
    I would say ridill is more like 5%-10% and they were a little bit more unlucky than average.. For instance, my linkshell has seen 3 ridills out of about 30 kills. Guess you would need a really large sample size to prove it either way. From Nidhogg, Dalmatica has been the most rare..
    5-10%, your LS is 3/30=10%, and thats below average?
    I think he was saying they got 3.9% drop rate, and he figures the average is closer to 5-10% (citing their own 10% drop rate as an example). Therefore, if 5-10% was the actual average, then 3.9% would be below average.

    And..

    M.Body... M.Body... M.Body

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    I loled when i found out that funky got the mbody.

    I was on vacation in new york, so was another war75

    basically, NO one there had war or drk lvled at all lol freelot Ebody

    congrats funk, btw, hes 58 already ^^ after like a week from being 37

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gippo
    I loled when i found out that funky got the mbody.

    I was on vacation in new york, so was another war75

    basically, NO one there had war or drk lvled at all lol freelot Ebody

    congrats funk, btw, hes 58 already ^^ after like a week from being 37
    I could imagine a lot of WARs would love to apply to an HNMLS that camps and claims Fafhogg yet has no one to lot ridill/e.body. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khamsin
    Quote Originally Posted by Jooeetheplatypus
    Quote Originally Posted by Stellar
    I would say ridill is more like 5%-10% and they were a little bit more unlucky than average.. For instance, my linkshell has seen 3 ridills out of about 30 kills. Guess you would need a really large sample size to prove it either way. From Nidhogg, Dalmatica has been the most rare..
    5-10%, your LS is 3/30=10%, and thats below average?
    I think he was saying they got 3.9% drop rate, and he figures the average is closer to 5-10% (citing their own 10% drop rate as an example). Therefore, if 5-10% was the actual average, then 3.9% would be below average.

    And..

    M.Body... M.Body... M.Body
    Khamsin wins. Also, there is more Fafhogg gear in the LS than just this. These statistics represent a small frame of time in order to try to possibly understand the overall drop rates of specific items via a set number of kills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by volcanicweather
    Khamsin wins. Also, there is more Fafhogg gear in the LS than just this. These statistics represent a small frame of time in order to try to possibly understand the overall drop rates of specific items via a set number of kills.
    It's tough to use this data for determining the droprate of an individual item, due to the variables that aren't recorded, like what TH you had on each kill or even the undocumented changes by SE over that time. I'm no mathematician, but it seems the margin of error of whatever number you came up with would be rather large.

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    I still give mad love to NegurA for my Beard :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by qatsi2
    Quote Originally Posted by volcanicweather
    Khamsin wins. Also, there is more Fafhogg gear in the LS than just this. These statistics represent a small frame of time in order to try to possibly understand the overall drop rates of specific items via a set number of kills.
    It's tough to use this data for determining the droprate of an individual item, due to the variables that aren't recorded, like what TH you had on each kill or even the undocumented changes by SE over that time. I'm no mathematician, but it seems the margin of error of whatever number you came up with would be rather large.
    I did not calculate it, but minoring in Statistics in college, I'm sure it would be. There are definately a lot of factors out of my control that go into the situation that would only increase the margain of error.

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    THat ridill drop rate is insanely high. I wish we'd get 2 ridills out of 50 kills. We're more like 1 for 100 and counting. Gogo 1% drop rate.

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    I think my LS is at something around 3/50 on Ridill

    From our 7 Nidhogg's we had

    3 N Legs
    3 E Bodies
    1 Dalmatica
    1 Koenig

    1 of those being an N Legs/K Body double drop.

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    I think my LS is around 6/70ish on Ridill. We only have 2 Adaman Hauberks to go with them though.

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