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  1. #421

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    I want to know how much damage this did.

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    HABS SUCK!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirlancelot
    Quote Originally Posted by Toth
    What is more baffling: that people like Lance and Chiz still post here to defend themselves and think they can persaude people to change their views about them or that people still respect and follow them ingame?
    Could care less what anyone here says about me, that's why i finally posted in page 21, since we had fun at AV tonight.
    "that was the best 10 seconds of my life"
    is that was you told manvina the first time you two cybered ??

  3. #423
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elmer the Pointy
    I want to know how much damage this did.
    Fucking hilarious

  4. #424
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    If I had a relic sword I'd probably be tanking in it all the time as well. I don't really see the point in working on something for so long only to not use it. *shrugs*

  5. #425
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    Because it is beyond useless in a JoL fight?

  6. #426
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orph
    Because it is beyond useless in a JoL fight?
    That would be for me to decide, and not someone else in another linkshell.

  7. #427
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beckwin
    An old nugget of Chiz goodness:

    http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11...chypocrite.jpg

    aers' main was on Remora, but he played friends' characters in TG on Fairy too.
    Heh, yep, and I'll maintain to this day that Aers either directly used bots or had access to them. Different servers are like fish bowls, but that doesn't mean you can't introduce another species by simply dropping in a fish from a different fish bowl. I know members of TG used 3rd party apps, a few of them were banned/suspended for using them. I also know that Ryko and others were friends with botting trash on servers plagued by botting (sup Stan, Weltall and co.) So ya, you get someone showing up to Aery daily from a server known for rampant botting and winning pulls for another LS, what the fuck are you gonna think? By the way, how's your LS doing after that recent banning? :D Heard you lost a few ppl lofl.

    And Toth, seriously, why open your fucking mouth? Coming from the LS who splits half their people to camp a 24 hour mob with a 5% drop rate(including your 2 "main" tanks and your only remaining Dring) to leave the other half to wipe to fucking Fafnir loooooooooooooooooooool. Not sure if you were there or not, but I highly doubt your 90% resisted nukes would've been a difference maker lol. But to enlighten you, people follow me because I get shit done and we win. We get phat loots that nubs like you want and everyone is happy. We also get to watch nubs like you wipe to shit and we get to smile. That keeps the game fun, and interesting. So there you go, keep looking up, as long as I'm around you'll have someone to hate nps.

  8. #428
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norelco
    Quote Originally Posted by Orph
    Because it is beyond useless in a JoL fight?
    That would be for me to decide, and not someone else in another linkshell.
    K, you can decide in the very short amount of time it takes for you to die meleeing it.

  9. #429
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    I was gonna use the sand in vag thing but it got used one someone on last page so I won't reuse it here.

    I'm rather disappointed on certain asuran's comments in this thread. ;P

  10. #430
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orph
    Quote Originally Posted by Norelco
    Quote Originally Posted by Orph
    Because it is beyond useless in a JoL fight?
    That would be for me to decide, and not someone else in another linkshell.
    K, you can decide in the very short amount of time it takes for you to die meleeing it.
    Actually, it should be a collective decision by the linkshell, as fighting HNMs is a group effort.

    Mentality should be: Spend all the time on your piece of shit relic if you want, but when it comes down to business, use whats best for the survivability and efficiency of your group.

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    Go Nin/Drk!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Intense
    Actually, it should be a collective decision by the linkshell, as fighting HNMs is a group effort.

    Mentality should be: Spend all the time on your piece of shit relic if you want, but when it comes down to business, use whats best for the survivability and efficiency of your group.
    Exactly. There's no single way to do anything in this game, and different linkshells will have different approaches to fighting mobs.

    This is a game. We play for fun, and every move we make shouldn't be scrutinized by some elitist. If a player wants to play a particular way, more power to him. If he wants to die using his relic, let him without comment. If his linkshell has a problem with it they can deal with it internally.

  13. #433
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norelco
    Exactly. There's no single way to do anything in this game, and different linkshells will have different approaches to fighting mobs.
    I agree, but does: "I want to use x weapon because I spent y amount of time on it, despite the fact that there are more proper weapons to use in its place" count as an approach?

    If he wants to die using his relic, let him without comment.
    This is still selfish thinking though; does not put consideration towards the other 17+ people who are also playing for various reasons.

    If his linkshell has a problem with it they can deal with it internally.
    True.

    **Id like to point out that I was never a member of Eminence, so I can only speculate after being in a former linkshell with mostly the same group of people.

  14. #434
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    And Toth, seriously, why open your fucking mouth? Coming from the LS who splits half their people to camp a 24 hour mob with a 5% drop rate(including your 2 "main" tanks and your only remaining Dring) to leave the other half to wipe to fucking Fafnir loooooooooooooooooooool. Not sure if you were there or not, but I highly doubt your 90% resisted nukes would've been a difference maker lol. But to enlighten you, people follow me because I get shit done and we win. We get phat loots that nubs like you want and everyone is happy. We also get to watch nubs like you wipe to shit and we get to smile. That keeps the game fun, and interesting. So there you go, keep looking up, as long as I'm around you'll have someone to hate nps
    The gear I want? LOL I wonder what gear that is Chiz, take you own advice. No one here or even on KI likes you, people on Fairy think your an egotistical moron, and your words are as hollow as a decaying tree. Don't bother coming here to defend yourself.

    Oh and Trick Attack is 100% chance to hit.

    edit: loved the resisted nukes part. whose ass do you pull these quotes from?

  15. #435
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norelco
    Quote Originally Posted by Orph
    Because it is beyond useless in a JoL fight?
    That would be for me to decide, and not someone else in another linkshell.
    Not really.

    You can say that it's his choice to act like a fucking retard and it's his linkshell's business on how they want to deal with that.

    That still doesn't change the fact that it's beyond stupid to use an Excalibur in JoL fight, especially when tanking.

    You stand out of range to melee JoL when you tank. If you stand in range, you'll probably die.

  16. #436
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassiAsura
    Go Nin/Pld!
    fixed for chiz

  17. #437
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asherek
    You stand out of range to melee JoL when you tank. If you stand in range, you'll probably die.
    Isn't that the tradeoff though? Stand closer and deal extra damage at the risk of dying. How many other tanks did they have there to take over when he died?

  18. #438
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toth
    And Toth, seriously, why open your fucking mouth? Coming from the LS who splits half their people to camp a 24 hour mob with a 5% drop rate(including your 2 "main" tanks and your only remaining Dring) to leave the other half to wipe to fucking Fafnir loooooooooooooooooooool. Not sure if you were there or not, but I highly doubt your 90% resisted nukes would've been a difference maker lol. But to enlighten you, people follow me because I get shit done and we win. We get phat loots that nubs like you want and everyone is happy. We also get to watch nubs like you wipe to shit and we get to smile. That keeps the game fun, and interesting. So there you go, keep looking up, as long as I'm around you'll have someone to hate nps
    The gear I want? LOL I wonder what gear that is Chiz, take you own advice. No one here or even on KI likes you, people on Fairy think your an egotistical moron, and your words are as hollow as a decaying tree. Don't bother coming here to defend yourself.

    Oh and Trick Attack is 100% chance to hit.

    edit: loved the resisted nukes part. whose ass do you pull these quotes from?
    only if your level 60 thf with assassin trait

  19. #439
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norelco
    Quote Originally Posted by Asherek
    You stand out of range to melee JoL when you tank. If you stand in range, you'll probably die.
    Isn't that the tradeoff though? Stand closer and deal extra damage at the risk of dying. How many other tanks did they have there to take over when he died?
    It's more like: stand really close to deal a negligible amount of damage before certain death. Might as well just change to NIN and run in for a Mijin Gakure.

  20. #440
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norelco
    Quote Originally Posted by Asherek
    You stand out of range to melee JoL when you tank. If you stand in range, you'll probably die.
    Isn't that the tradeoff though? Stand closer and deal extra damage at the risk of dying. How many other tanks did they have there to take over when he died?
    Is that really optimal? I say let the damage dealers worry about dmg, and let the tank worry about tanking, especially a PLD. Eating sushi for the sole purpose of enhancing your dmg output as a PLD on an HNM is pretty foolish, no?

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