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  1. #541
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    I'll take off my haidate and haubergeon for 1k Gil

  2. #542
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    Come on slackers, swing this back to Asura from Fairy

    I think Lancelot is our server's lance. I also think someone took a shit in Krandor's cheerios.

  3. #543
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norelco
    Quote Originally Posted by Shuemue
    Still a cunt eh Norelco?
    Because I made fun of your slut LS mate Taylah? You can get a life too.
    Yep, still a cunt.

  4. #544
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    Quote Originally Posted by draxyl
    Come on slackers, swing this back to Asura from Fairy

    I think Lancelot is our server's lance. I also think someone took a shit in Krandor's cheerios.
    Fk that, Draxyl, YOU are Asuras Lance!

    p.s. Just read about your trip to Vegas, thats the way to do it!

  5. #545
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    In support of my nomination, I didn't own erase for about a year as a 75 brd/whm - and I currently do not have sleepga 2 either, and I've been 75 blm for about a year I think

    And yea...we had a good time in Vegas

  6. #546
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    I dunno, when Lance learned how shitty excalibur was, he actually sucked up the 2k currency loss and switched to aegis. That was a smart move.

    The fact that Soup followed through with his shitty lolrelic is another example why he's "Lance" of Asura: so much potential, yet living up to none of it because of a stunning lack of brains.

  7. #547
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    I think Lance is a good player actually, I was just pointing out his name...

  8. #548
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    If he has fun playing with his Xcal, I really see nothing wrong with him investing in getting one.

    If he's using it at inappropriate times (which I can't say whether he does or not since I've never really payed attention) well thats a different story.

  9. #549
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluedemon
    If he has fun playing with his Xcal, I really see nothing wrong with him investing in getting one.

    If he's using it at inappropriate times (which I can't say whether he does or not since I've never really payed attention) well thats a different story.
    Precisely the point. Tanking JoL with koenig body and excalibur is practically the definition of an inappropriate time.

  10. #550
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    Sweet! Asura onry page!

    And all it took was an outbrust by yours truly.

  11. #551
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norelco
    Sweet! Asura onry page!

    And all it took was an outbrust by yours truly.
    Nicely done emo queen

  12. #552
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    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Quote Originally Posted by Bluedemon
    If he has fun playing with his Xcal, I really see nothing wrong with him investing in getting one.

    If he's using it at inappropriate times (which I can't say whether he does or not since I've never really payed attention) well thats a different story.
    Precisely the point. Tanking JoL with koenig body and excalibur is practically the definition of an inappropriate time.
    Not that it really mattered in the end. I wasn't around for the fights since I was afk this weekend, but both JoL were killed in around 1 hour - if that is indeed correct, I say we did a fantastic job executing our strategy on our first two attempts.

  13. #553
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    From what I hear, you guys did a pretty poor job of executing the same strategy that your members watched us use a week earlier with half as many people.

    Yea when you bring 43 people including 7 white mages you could probably tank with black mages wearing starter gear, but that isn't really a good strategy. And neither is tanking with a weapon that does exactly nothing for you when you aren't meleeing.

    I mean, only 2% dmg per drk souleater is pretty weak, we were squeezing 5% or more each. Our PLDs got hate back pretty fast after the souleater, too, meaning several times our DRKs were able to shed hate without dying after dealing upwards of 5000 dmg in 30 seconds.

    Maybe if your main vanity tank used an enmity sword/shield and valor instead of exclolibur/lolresist and koenig body, he'd hold hate off the drks another few seconds for that extra 500-1000 dmg? Just a thought :wink:

  14. #554
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    Well apparently some people outside the linkshell seem to be taking it badly...

    If 2 years ago people would say hey, lets let our Brd/Nin tank fafhogg how would you have reacted? Apparently you don't need to be equipped optimally to have a JoL kill under your belt. So be it. I'm sure those proud new earring holders are happy for the most part.

  15. #555
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    Lol, sour grapes much?

    I forgot, you and LW (and the rest of the decision makers in SML) are so brilliant for thinking to use drk's on JoL. I sure hope folks from other servers read this post, so that they know you guys thought of using darks with kraken clubs on JoL first. Get over yourself. You guys read about it online, we read about it online - both here, and on other forums.

    As to the #'s comment, we are what we are. We're not going to tell people to not come online to enjoy the fight, certainly not folks that have left the game and came back just for this fight. Your #'s are what they are as well, let's not make it a point of contention.

    As to the drk's and the % dmg they got off per souleater, it is what it is. All of our darks are noobs when it comes to using KC's, this was their first try at it - rotating off loaner KC's from pettra and dngnhack. They had some gear for it, but probably not an optimal "Rukenshin" type build.

    And for the record, I didn't bad mouth your linkshell over the kill at all in my post above, thanks for taking the high road there.

  16. #556
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    I've been told that your original JoL strat didn't include drk+kraken, and that changed after you guys observed our fight. I never claimed to have invented it--actually I saw Tribe doing it ages and ages ago and wanted to emulate it--but your version of it, with your DRKs dying to undispelled flourescence 10 seconds into their souleater, was hardly impressive.

    Deep down there's no sour grapes, I'm just telling you what your tanks were doing wrong. Open your eyes and read my criticisms as opportunities to improve. Why get all hyper-defensive? You should be thanking me for pointing these things out.

    But really, in what bizarro world do you have to live to think excalibur is a good JoL tank weapon. That's exactly the criteria that makes Soup a perfect fit for Asura's "lance": supreme access to gear. A large following of people that range from total retard to extremely competent. And, most importantly, a complete lack of good sense when it comes to doing his job properly.

  17. #557
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    Quote Originally Posted by draxyl
    In support of my nomination, I didn't own erase for about a year as a 75 brd/whm - and I currently do not have sleepga 2 either, and I've been 75 blm for about a year I think
    Wtfm8!? Youre not supposed to further incriminate you. Youre supposed to be like "oh noez" "his in are linkshell" or something else david might say

  18. #558
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    Aurik, my entire point is that IT DIDN'T MATTER on JoL that soup was using his toy. We still killed it fast, fun time was had by members, people weren't angered over any xp loss, etc. If we had died and lost the pop set specifically because of Soup's equipement decisions I might be on here singing a different tune, but thats not the case.

    Did we kill it as optimally as possible? No. Does it really matter to our linkshell? Not really, sure we're going to tweak things and try to improve - but we hardly feel like failures for chalking up 2/2 wins.

  19. #559
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    So what you're saying is you agree with me that Soup's choice of equipment was fairly suspect . That kind of vanity-over-function attitude is exactly what makes him our server's Lance.

    Supreme access to gear. A large following of people that range from total retard to extremely competent. And, most importantly, a complete lack of good sense when it comes to doing his job properly.

  20. #560
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    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    So what you're saying is you agree with me that Soup's choice of equipment was fairly suspect .
    He said that in his first post in this thread.

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