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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuya
    Shes basicaly a female version of Cloud, barring the possibly diferent personality. And what other main characters had amnesia? Thought it was just goldy.
    Pretty much all of the PSX main characters. Cloud, Squall didn't know who he was either (an orphan, though it's strongly implied that he's Laguna's son), Zidane didn't know that he is from another world, Garnet didn't know that she was from a summoner race and not actually a true heir to Alexandria, Tidus didn't know that he's a 'dream' (though I never played FFX-2 so maybe he isn't). Not necessarily amnesia in all cases, but none of them know who they 'truly are'.

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    Cecil turning Paladin is pretty much the same thing too... that part of the FFs I can accept... it's other stuff that drive me nuts sometimes when they make new games.

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    Honestly you are all complaining about story lines and shit like that, when really can you think of something interesting that they haven't used yet? Pretty much any thing i can think of they have covered. They are bound to repeat them selfs. The only thing they really have going is how they can change up game play a little bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exoduso
    Quote Originally Posted by Scythiroth
    12 was great, but it didn't feel like a Final Fantasy game to me.
    Exactly, it was a good RPG in its own right... but calling it an FF was a joke really. The battle system and heavy storyline is what made the FF series succeed and become THE Final Fantasy... I just don't think 12 did it enough justice.
    That's ridiculous... nobody in SE has ever said what kind of RPG the FF series should represent. In fact to most people FF represents "change" and "innovation" in graphics and gameplay as a leading series in the RPG genre. Why was FF7 so successful? Because not only was it the first real 3D RPG but also with different battle systems (ATB bars, limit breaks, etc) that so many other RPGs later on followed suit.

    To me, if FF starts to maintain any kind of "tradition" or "pattern" the series will die out. And the fact that FF12 scored so high in ALL critics institutions is proof that the story in the game does NOT suck. If you think it does, the you should realize that you are in the minority and maybe it's time you move on from this series

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    I will keep getting the FFs just because they're FFs... it's a pretty obvious reason, since it has done tramendously well over the years.

    And yes, innovation and change is good, but it seems that in FF12 they kind of disregarded the storyline in one way or another, and decided to concentrate on the battle system a lot more (which closely resembles an upgraded version of the FFXI system).

    Don't get me wrong, I love the series and I LOVED FF12, I just think that with FF13 they could do a lot better than they did with 12 (if you look back at how well FF7 8 9 and even 10 were presented.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anyway
    Also, never getting a PS3, so hope this shit goes multi-platform.
    keep wishing, won't happen

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    I'm definitely not buying it until Sony drops the 60gig to 500... i'd assume that if their sales keep sucking this badly by July, I will be able to pick it up with MGS.

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    Im not buying it till they lower the goddamn price, srsly, im a fucking university student, what the fuck do they expect me to do?

    PS the blonde guy sorta looks cool thou. Doesnt remind me of anybody in other FFs either.

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    it wont go down for a longgggggggggg time

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    Wasn't the Premium 360 $500 when it was first released? I bought it for 400 last July.

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    Well, if it doesn't come down, Sony can enjoy seeing their consoles sitting in stores for a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace-o-fire
    Honestly you are all complaining about story lines and shit like that, when really can you think of something interesting that they haven't used yet? Pretty much any thing i can think of they have covered. They are bound to repeat them selfs. The only thing they really have going is how they can change up game play a little bit.
    The only thing FF series havent touched yet is Science fiction, and maybe the typical "fairy tales" rpg. Star Ocean/Xenosaga had good story, but it's too different from FF game to consider it as an option.

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    they just need a game that will sell them. they're already losing $300+ per system, not really expected to drop for mimimum of 2 years, most likely 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by izembo
    they just need a game that will sell them. they're already losing $300+ per system, not really expected to drop for mimimum of 2 years, most likely 3.
    That was their initial problem though... the fact they DIDN'T release a big name as a launch title (Wii had Zelda, and 360 didn't really need it because they were the only next-gen console for an entire year.)

    Sony made the critical mistake of not having any good title ready for them at launch, which is why they are failing so miserably right now.

    PS3s would be flying off the shelves if they had an FF ready for their initial launch of the console... or hell, even MGS or DMC would've done the job.

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    i completely agree, the only games people seem to be buying are madden and resistence(because theres nothing else and everyone is playing it online)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exoduso
    Quote Originally Posted by izembo
    they just need a game that will sell them. they're already losing $300+ per system, not really expected to drop for mimimum of 2 years, most likely 3.
    That was their initial problem though... the fact they DIDN'T release a big name as a launch title (Wii had Zelda, and 360 didn't really need it because they were the only next-gen console for an entire year.)

    Sony made the critical mistake of not having any good title ready for them at launch, which is why they are failing so miserably right now.

    PS3s would be flying off the shelves if they had an FF ready for their initial launch of the console... or hell, even MGS or DMC would've done the job.
    Just think if they had delayed FF12 to put it on PS3.

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    That's what I thought in the beginning too, but they would've just bashed it because the graphics wouldn't be up to par with the PS3, and if SE had to change the entire game's graphics just for the PS3 it would take even more time... time that neither company had I guess (Since Square didn't really release an FF game since 2001's FFX, and it was getting on people's nerves.)

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    Somehow I don't think Square really cares that the PS3 is struggling right now.

    They released FF12 and it sold 2 million copies over its first weekend on the PS2.

    Why would they possibly have wanted to wait to release the game on the PS3, spending more time, more money, to only possibly sell less than a million copies.

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    It wouldn't sell well either, because as I said -- if they released it as it is on the pS3, its score would've dropped big time... (just because PS3 has higher expectations graphics-wise.)

    And yeah I agree, it seems that all the developers are letting Sony drown... they don't seem to care, since they have the 360/Wii/DS to fall back on in case the PS3 fails.

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