When did FFXI jump the shark?

[Jeryhn]

Speaking of Warlock's Tabard +1, does that have anything on it worth upgrading for? I have a RDM set of materials, but I can't think of anything worth upgrading. It has the same amount of +enfeebling skill on it, and no MND or anything so I never really gave any thought to upgrading the body.

+20 MP over the NQ and extra spell interruption sold it for me. The +5 hMP is just a small bonus. The CHR-5 is a bonus too I guess if you're a Crimson-wearing RDM who doesn't want to get intimidated by Bahamut's Mask-wearing Paladins.

I only threw the MDB and Resist Paralyze out there because it has a chance of doing something sometime, if only a small insignificant percentage of the time you wear it. +MND/INT/acc/atk/MAB/etc. doesn't do anything unless you enfeeble, nuke, or whack something with it on.

For enfeebling, mahatma houppelande will give you higher +MND/INT.

Casting Slow/Paralyze using MND build relies on tiers of MND, usually 5 MND over your target's MND total = 1% tier activation on these spells. Mahatma's +3 to MND may not necessarily push you to the next activation tier for the spell, meanwhile, you could be missing out on free Auto Refreshed MP.

When I get Morrigan's Robe, I'll definitely be selling my Errant and casting Slow/Paralyze in it.

[Khalil]

Gaiters not worth it? That's probably the most useful item that came from CoP. Even in this shitty economy, you can get ~65M for them.

While the item may be sought after for different reason, in our present economy, they can be sold for about 50-60 mil. More if the buyer is desperate.

Honestly, the only good reward from CoP was the thrill of the Wyrms and the ring you get for completing it. Even at this point, there are some people who refuse to continue or help others because it's such a let-down.

[BRP]

Zilart - Relatively perfect.

Ha!

[Luke]

I still think they're the best item to come from CoP though, movement speed is priceless in a game that requires so much travelling. Lordwafik says they're overrated for the kind of fight you get them from but I don't think they are; especially coming from a server where a certain JP LS hunts it to get gaiters to go with their dalms and xarc af2's on their 2nd characters.

Anyway, I think the biggest problem w/ this game is that there's no necessity to acquire items. There's so few items that actually affect your performance to a large degree; which is why I laugh when people try to say x "needs" y item. I've seen ridills go to lvl20 warriors because they put in the work to get the item, "need" is such a BS word in this game.

Everyone says Khimaira was a good move by SE. I agree it's better than Hydra, but honestly what fights do you need the sword for? It's just another monster for haijin LS's to try and dominate. I haven't tried Salvage and have no desire to, but from what people tell me, it's not worth it.

[yayaok]

I've seen ridills go to lvl20 warriors because they put in the work to get the item

i fucking cried...

[Krandor]

I've seen ridills go to lvl20 warriors because they put in the work to get the item

i fucking cried...

Here we go again

Iirc the first 3 NA Ridills on Asura went to a THF, then a DRK, then a BST, in that order.

/end Ridill Derail

[Celeras]

Yeah dumb mages and monks, but people who understand the overhype of +movement items know they're nothing special. They'll save you a slight bit of time getting to places, or save you some silent oils so you can train, but hardly changes kite fights for HNM. WHM? They should have learned the "Square within the circle" pitstops for kite fights. BLM? Yay they can now solo Apollyon NW better. MNK? I dont know, really I don't. SMN? yeah ok.

2 Mnks with Gaiters can duo Faith. How close would 2 mnks without gaiters come?

[Siatdiat]

Yeah dumb mages and monks, but people who understand the overhype of +movement items know they're nothing special. They'll save you a slight bit of time getting to places, or save you some silent oils so you can train, but hardly changes kite fights for HNM. WHM? They should have learned the "Square within the circle" pitstops for kite fights. BLM? Yay they can now solo Apollyon NW better. MNK? I dont know, really I don't. SMN? yeah ok.

2 Mnks with Gaiters can duo Faith. How close would 2 mnks without gaiters come?

So your saying that was SE master plan, for mnks to be able to duo Faith with them? Or isnt that just in itself a testament to the lack of planning and overall imbalance in the game?

[Celeras]

Yeah dumb mages and monks, but people who understand the overhype of +movement items know they're nothing special. They'll save you a slight bit of time getting to places, or save you some silent oils so you can train, but hardly changes kite fights for HNM. WHM? They should have learned the "Square within the circle" pitstops for kite fights. BLM? Yay they can now solo Apollyon NW better. MNK? I dont know, really I don't. SMN? yeah ok.

2 Mnks with Gaiters can duo Faith. How close would 2 mnks without gaiters come?

So your saying that was SE master plan, for mnks to be able to duo Faith with them? Or isnt that just in itself a testament to the lack of planning and overall imbalance in the game?

If theres one thing this game needs less of, its gamebreaking items. Ew.

[Priran]

Yeah dumb mages and monks, but people who understand the overhype of +movement items know they're nothing special. They'll save you a slight bit of time getting to places, or save you some silent oils so you can train, but hardly changes kite fights for HNM. WHM? They should have learned the "Square within the circle" pitstops for kite fights. BLM? Yay they can now solo Apollyon NW better. MNK? I dont know, really I don't. SMN? yeah ok.

2 Mnks with Gaiters can duo Faith. How close would 2 mnks without gaiters come?

1 DRK with pos.exe can solo Faith.

[Luke]

Haha. I don't mean to create a derail, I'm just trying to say that almost all items in this game are merely for status. Yeah Ridill will help your DPS.... in merit. After merits are capped, then what? Haijin LS's try to dominate the monsters the items drop from to preserve that status for themselves as much as possible. That's what HNM is in this game. Sometimes I miss playing with people from my old LS but I'm so glad I was kicked because it takes so much dedication (almost obsession) to be "#1" in FFXI that it takes the fun out of the game. lol@GR also.

About gaiters...I think gaiters and/or any movement speed equipment is great because it gives you a constant measurable effect, where in contrast its hard to see a difference going from Haubergeon->E.body besides visual difference.

Meh just ramblings.