WHM Melee random crap

[arus2001]

Unless there's some WHM melee revolution, I'd just say go for Molva Maul then work on a magian multi-hitter to offhand. Then again, maybe I missed the memo where mage melee is no longer taboo in group settings.

[FailureMidgard]

Unless there's some WHM melee revolution, I'd just say go for Molva Maul then work on a magian multi-hitter to offhand. Then again, maybe I missed the memo where mage melee is no longer taboo in group settings.

If you can find enough other healers, there's nothing too terribly wrong with it - esp since with RR, a whm can probably outdamage any DRK or nonFudoSAM...

[Izzy]

Yea, I already outdamage most people in any group setting minus a couple relic holders that are really top notch. VV and RR just make it even better.

I still have a level 75 Mjollnir as well.

[arus2001]

If you can find enough other healers, there's nothing too terribly wrong with it - esp since with RR, a whm can probably outdamage any DRK or nonFudoSAM...

Not saying it's bad, just that I find most people to be too stubborn about it. Then again, maybe that's my old bitter RDM wondering what its sword skill is for.

[Ocara]

Not saying it's bad, just that I find most people to be too stubborn about it. Then again, maybe that's my old bitter RDM wondering what its sword skill is for.

People are stubborn for the same reason they are stubborn about rdm melee, competent pups, etc. Most people fail to accomplish their responsibilities while doing it, do so at inappropriate times, or just plain suck at it (no gear, atmas, etc).

[chazzyphizzle]

that, and rdm melee doesnt hold a candle to hexa spam in abyssea

[Tsuko_Asura]

WHM melee =/= RDM melee

[arus2001]

CDC opens some doors, but in general, I'd agree.

[nitsuj]

Unless there's some WHM melee revolution, I'd just say go for Molva Maul then work on a magian multi-hitter to offhand.

This is pretty solid too, although molva doesn't offer much besides awesome damage and occasional relic ws, where as empyreal would give slightly higher damage. Both are good choices if you want to show people melee WHM doesn't suck

[Rionel]

Wow... so Molva Maul ends up being better than the +10% WSDMG Magian? Wouldn't Store TP be good too for more WS?

Need some maths in here.

[Hanyoko]

I actually needed to come whm to a salvage the other day and I always had the habit of whm melee vs Gear/Gears normal mobs. My strat/justification was auspice + misery then spam cura / esuna as needed then boon when I had TP unless i didnt need the mp. Cura II makes this even more justifiable.

@izzy what atma do you typically use then if you do not have RR? Do you have both your abyssite of furtherence (+10 stat via cruor buff)?
Atma are great, but being able to dump another +20 on stats makes things even more absurd.

[arus2001]

Yeah, I've always felt Misery mode has been underrated by a lot of WHMs, and it certainly gives incentive to at least auto-attack since you're in range when using it.


As for Empyrean, if you've got the clout to drag people around to hook you up with a club, by all means, go to town. I don't think it's something that should be expected of your average WHM, just I don't anticipate RDMs will have CDC (despite its yumminess). I've been having a hell of a time plucking people from Abyssea in my LS to try and WoE for people with weapons at the appropriate stage, but it just isn't happening. Lootwhore drama's been steadily building, too, having already had one guy jump servers because a select few keep hoovering everything. So I guess this kinda brings me back to wishing for a better place to be since I came back to XI, but at the same time not wanting that "better place" to be akin to a second job.

[Izzy]

Did anyone ever figure out if RR+VV or RR+whateverthecritdamagebonusis atma is better for WHM? I could test them out, but I still haven't gotten RR

[Alkimi]

Tbh I'm reluctant to use VV, has double attack on it which might hurt using a KC. For now I'm using RR and Stout Arm, not sure if it's the best choice (Other options could be Sanguine Scythe or Gnarled Horn) but the extra 40 STR and 40 Attack seems to help a great deal.

[Darkmagi]

It's only 5% double attack, doubt it's doing harm really. No idea what the best secondary atma is after RR though. Gnarled horn maybe?

[Tsuko_Asura]

Not that I really feel VV's DA would be that detrimental, but I think SA's attack may be of more service than 10 STR, regain, and ~5% DA on Hexa. Kraken Club very rarely(if ever) going to benefit from regain, and WHM can use all the attack they can get.

As a speculator unqualified to make this assessment properly, I'm going to guess that WHM with X/Kraken is going to get the most benefit from RR/(Stout Arm/Gnarled Horn).

[ceown]

As for the question for whm's trying to get the Gambanteinn, I'm attempting it.
10/50 dischages so far with one wing collected. My LS tries to do one fistule kill a week for me. And so far the bugger tends to yeild only one a kill for the most part.

The most complicated part of the process right now is getting the people gathered and Fistule's snack to pop. We'll see how the new timer adjustmens impacts this.

I havn't seen any serious proof about Dagan but it really does sound like a starlight +1 which is really sad. Which means yes a relic, or even a faux relic would be a better main hand interms of offering a more damaging ws if you're aiming for something other than hexa.

It'll probably end up as my main hand weapon if I'm not dual weilding anything as short of the relic not much else offers the same damage. But if I can get me Molva it'll probably end up mained while the gam will be off handed.
Note: No KC yet. Blasted BCNM doesn't like me.

I hope the current information is just really really really wrong about Dagan.

[Tsuko_Asura]

There's absolutely no reason to believe the information is incorrect. The animation itself makes it painfully obvious that it does nothing to the target.

[Alkimi]

Only time I ever use Dagan is if I'm getting beaten up and can't seem to get a cure off, the MP return is miles inferior to Mystic Boon but it's a decent chunk of HP back.

But yeah it still sucks.

[dannyl]

From Aby-Ule Dominion note exchange.

http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/.../vodunmace.jpg

Best out of 14 or so randoms.

edit:

http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/...vodunmace2.jpg

Nothing too special but worth it if you don't have access to elite clubs out there.
I also had a few Brainshaker +15% to +35% Augments, no other WS's though.