WHM Melee random crap

**Asymptotic** · 2012-06-19 10:47

Should check this thread if you haven't. I linked directly to the page where Austar and I jump on the math train.

Sets etc. are discussed and I posted some comparative information for alternate offhands, etc.

**Izzy** · 2012-06-20 22:48

What atma do you use for Realmrazer?

**Asymptotic** · 2012-06-20 23:08

Wherever atma are concerned, you should be using Hexa Strike, so I've never really thought about it.

**Izzy** · 2012-06-21 15:40

Gotcha. I was hoping that Realmrazer would overtake Hexa in every situation so I could sell all this Hexa shit I bought over the years. Guess not!

**Izzy** · 2012-06-25 02:13

Some JP Taru with Gambanteinn just made me look incredibly silly at an Akvan fight. His Realmrazers were 600-700+ the damage of mine. He said that he stacks attack instead of MND for it.

Why did he just destroy my face Q_Q? I didn't get a screenshot of his gear.

**Diddy Kong** · 2012-06-25 05:02

Akvan has some wonky ass shield shit. You probably just happened to WS at unlucky times.

**Izzy** · 2012-06-25 10:55

Originally Posted by Diddy Kong

Akvan has some wonky ass shield shit. You probably just happened to WS at unlucky times.

It wasn't that. We did 6 fights and it was the same the whole way through. My full TP return WS were seriously that much lower than his.

**KSDI** · 2012-06-25 11:36

Maybe atmacites were different? was he using temp items and u weren't?

**takito09** · 2012-06-25 15:01

I would love to see 2 whms meleing on Akvan fight o.o!

**Izzy** · 2012-06-25 19:55

Originally Posted by KSDI

Maybe atmacites were different? was he using temp items and u weren't?

I think that's what it was. He also has more temp items than I had.

**Izzy** · 2012-06-25 19:55

Originally Posted by takito09

I would love to see 2 whms meleing on Akvan fight o.o!

It wasn't that bad at all!

**Izzy** · 2012-06-25 20:45

Which leads me to my next question: What atmacite would you use?

**Darkmagi** · 2012-06-25 20:47

Get all of your temps, you must be missing Stalwart/Braver drinks.

**Alkimi** · 2012-06-26 09:44

Maybe he can also use 3 atmacites whereas you only have 2, have you full cleared including Provenance Watcher? Equally geared/buffed you should be beating Gambanteinn on WS damage with the extra 40 attack and higher base dmg.

As for atmacites, I assume you're not going to even attempt any of the lvl99 content as melee whm so I'd say anything with STR/MND/Attack? Valiant is probably a good start.

**Celebrindor** · 2012-06-26 13:36

always wondered as I haven't tried it yet- whm melee superior to rdm melee due to WS selection, weapon selection, or pure enjoyment?

Also, how is the parse pare out when enspells are factored in? I ask because I haven't even tried a WHM melee build, and you guys truly make it sound fun ^^

Lastly, are we talking needing relic/kclub to make it work, or are there other club combos worth doing? Is NIN the only real workable SJ?

sorry for the onslaught of questions so deep into the thread.

**Izzy** · 2012-06-26 20:07

Originally Posted by Alkimi

As for atmacites, I assume you're not going to even attempt any of the lvl99 content as melee whm so I'd say anything with STR/MND/Attack? Valiant is probably a good start.

Why not Q_Q? I used to get statements like this all the time, then I wrecked every melee I ever did a merit party with. I'm guessing it's a lot different now with atmacites and shit, but I'm guessing I could still pull my weight and do better than the majority of the retards I've seen in my VwNM parties.

**Dotsudoku** · 2012-06-26 20:44

WHM attack is still pitiful by comparison, and without maintaining aftermath and landing the shield break, your accuracy against T6+ is going to be painful. Your attack deficiency wasn't nearly as pronounced against colibri.

WHM melee has definitely seen major improvements, but any half-competent Ukon WAR, Reso DRK, etc is still going to win handily.

**Izzy** · 2012-06-26 20:48

Originally Posted by Dotsudoku

WHM melee has definitely seen major improvements, but any half-competent Ukon WAR, Reso DRK, etc is still going to win handily.

I totally agree. Good thing mostly everyone that plays FFXI is literally a huge pile of shit at every job they have lol.

So, it's the accuracy that causes the problem now? I did notice on Akvan I was having a hell of a time getting hits in. I don't have many atmacite or temp items, I'm working on getting through the Voidwatch tiers now so I can actually do damage to mobs.

**Dotsudoku** · 2012-06-26 21:05

I mean, there are ways for you to make up for your accuracy, but that will just compound the attack issue(which I would say is the primary one).

I'm sure you'll be passable against anything if you make adjustments where necessary, and even pretty decent against T3 Jeuno and below, but things like PW are probably out of the question.

This is mostly speculation based on tinkering with WHM sets(albeit, founded in reason assumption), though, so feel free to prove me wrong.

**Izzy** · 2012-06-26 21:26

Yeah, things like PW would probably be out of the question, but I'll still give it a shot.

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