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    Quote Originally Posted by NotGreyheim View Post
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    I hope it turns out they've had Momo locked up this entire time. I would never question anything Kubo does ever again.
    Honestly, if that happened I would probably die of pure bliss if that's even a thing.
    Even if it isn't, it would become one.

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    Notice the notes about time.

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    Meh. That's a bit of a stretch.

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    Well... there was that tea thingy tho idk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitarman View Post
    I'm guessing Ukitake isn't truly dead, or won't die from this from how it sounded. Kind of hope he doesn't because they made him out to be a strong motherfucker. We rarely got to see him fight.
    I feel the same. I always assumed he is one of the strongest characters in Bleach and I'd like to see him go all out.

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    Why would they even seal Aizen with his blade?
    Well, actually, can you even separate shinigami and katana?

    Or where is the power to manipulate time coming from?

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    That's actually a good question lol.

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    Not really. Think of it this way. Perhaps his bankai has to do with distorting the sense of time, since spatial perception is technically a sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vathris View Post
    Why would they even seal Aizen with his blade?
    Well, actually, can you even separate shinigami and katana?

    Or where is the power to manipulate time coming from?
    The hogyoku supposedly deleted his zanpakuto, but I assume he could remanifest it or whatever.

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    Didn't Urahara seal him in a way that the hogyoku doesn't work for him anymore? Or are we going with the assumption that's another Aizen troll scenario.

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    I think the entire point of sealing him was that even though the Hogyoku was removed, it had changed him such that they could not kill him. At least, I'm pretty sure I remember reading that somewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kuronosan View Post
    Not really. Think of it this way. Perhaps his bankai has to do with distorting the sense of time, since spatial perception is technically a sense.
    Nah, I meant why does Aizen have access to his zanpaktou powers? Dumb as hell to seal him with it, and that's to say if it even still exists because it crumbled away at the end of his fight with Ichigo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xno Kappa View Post
    Nah, I meant why does Aizen have access to his zanpaktou powers? Dumb as hell to seal him with it, and that's to say if it even still exists because it crumbled away at the end of his fight with Ichigo.
    I want to say the zanpaktou arc explained that, but people will probably fuss about that because it wasn't part of the manga even though Kubo had a large amount of influence on that arc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kuronosan View Post
    More like the breaking of the worlds temporarily displaced Aizen to the dangai, where he promptly broke his restraints.
    You're basically saying he spent approximately 87,641 hours (or just shy of 10 Earth Years) in the Dangai. It's a stretch, but this is Kubo we are talking about. He could have forgotten his own Dangai plotline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sho View Post
    You're basically saying he spent approximately 87,641 hours (or just shy of 10 Earth Years) in the Dangai. It's a stretch, but this is Kubo we are talking about. He could have forgotten his own Dangai plotline.
    I'm using heavy sarcasm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kuronosan View Post
    I'm using heavy sarcasm.
    I was 100% with you despite sarcasm. This is still Kubo we are talking about.

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    I'm glad we're discussing Aizen.

    When a Zanpaktou is broken, its wielder can reconstruct it simply by calling upon the sword to release its shikai again, right?. As Nimaiya explained, only zanbaktou that break in their bankai state need his personal attention to be reforged. Aizen has never shown us his bankai. When kyoka suigetsu crumbled away it was in its shikai state. When Urahara used that super special kyujurokkei kakafumetsu kido on Aizen, it convinced the hogyoku to reject him due to his weakened state, which did away ONLY with all the additional powers the hogyoku itself granted Aizen, not his innate zanpaktou powers and IMMENSE natural reiatsu.

    If the gotei 13 had no knowledge of his shikai's true ability and always asserted he was just a powerful water element specialist, it stands to reason he must have used complete hypnosis to devise a hoax water-based bankai of some sort to present Yama et al when seeking captain rank (as all captain besides the 11th's inherited Zaraki must present a bankai). If Nimaiya's title is "God of the Sword" and asserts to personally know every zanpaktou (chiefly because he claims he's CREATED THEM ALL HIMSELF), how did the gotei not get a message from the royal guard saying that Aizen's demonstration was a ruse? For the same reason they didn't get involved in all of the other pleb soul society conflicts thus far I guess.

    I'm pretty certain that, since he's had time in that chair to recover from (1)Ichigo's attack, (2)the loss of the hogyoku, and (3)Urahara's kido, Aizen can still call upon the use of his sword at any time, and the seals were placed on him merely as a means to prevent mind-fuckery in that precise moment of his compromised/damaged state in the immediate aftermath of that battle. But sadly, with his shikai ability as OP as it is, I feel Kubo could easily explain his current manipulation with a cheap bankai reveal: "Actually, I released my bankai while I was in the dangai. It's real strong. Here's like 6 pages of panels explaining exactly how it worked, and why I'm an entirely worse problem to have than Bach. Don't worry though because Bach is also strong, and Ichigo will win against everyone. Also I had Hitsugaya sword Momo again." Next Thursday will be fun but I don't expect the glory of the arrancar arc. This arc is a mess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BWYuko View Post
    I'm glad we're discussing Aizen.

    When a Zanpaktou is broken, its wielder can reconstruct it simply by calling upon the sword to release its shikai again, right?. As Nimaiya explained, only zanbaktou that break in their bankai state need his personal attention to be reforged. Aizen has never shown us his bankai. When kyoka suigetsu crumbled away it was in its shikai state. When Urahara used that super special kyujurokkei kakafumetsu kido on Aizen, it convinced the hogyoku to reject him due to his weakened state, which did away ONLY with all the additional powers the hogyoku itself granted Aizen, not his innate zanpaktou powers and IMMENSE natural reiatsu.

    If the gotei 13 had no knowledge of his shikai's true ability and always asserted he was just a powerful water element specialist, it stands to reason he must have used complete hypnosis to devise a hoax water-based bankai of some sort to present Yama et al when seeking captain rank (as all captain besides the 11th's inherited Zaraki must present a bankai).
    If Nimaiya's title is "God of the Sword" and asserts to personally know every zanpaktou (chiefly because he claims he's CREATED THEM ALL HIMSELF), how did the gotei not get a message from the royal guard saying that Aizen's demonstration was a ruse? For the same reason they didn't get involved in all of the other pleb soul society conflicts thus far I guess.

    I'm pretty certain that, since he's had time in that chair to recover from (1)Ichigo's attack, (2)the loss of the hogyoku, and (3)Urahara's kido, Aizen can still call upon the use of his sword at any time, and the seals were placed on him merely as a means to prevent mind-fuckery in that precise moment of his compromised/damaged state in the immediate aftermath of that battle. But sadly, with his shikai ability as OP as it is, I feel Kubo could easily explain his current manipulation with a cheap bankai reveal: "Actually, I released my bankai while I was in the dangai. It's real strong. Here's like 6 pages of panels explaining exactly how it worked, and why I'm an entirely worse problem to have than Bach. Don't worry though because Bach is also strong, and Ichigo will win against everyone. Also I had Hitsugaya sword Momo again." Next Thursday will be fun but I don't expect the glory of the arrancar arc. This arc is a mess.
    except we know this to be hella false, because the entire reason they all thought ichigo had a chance to win originally was because he was the only one out of them that hadn't seen his release, and therefore could fight him without his senses being fucked.

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    But that was after Aizen revealed his actual power. I think his point is that since Aizen revealed his true Shikai, no one has seen his Bankai.