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    That's a mistranslation (or rather, a misleading translation); Kensei never says that Hisagi can currently (as of that chapter) use bankai. A closer translation is more clear that he's telling Hisagi to use bankai despite him not having it (IE, he's ordering Hisagi to obtain it and show him), and he was going to have Mashiro beat the crap out of Hisagi in an attempt to force it out of him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obsidian View Post
    He definitely does. Kensei made Hisagi show it to him before the invasion arc started.
    Kinky. Is this what happens behind closed barracks? o:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fwahm View Post
    That's a mistranslation (or rather, a misleading translation); Kensei never says that Hisagi can currently (as of that chapter) use bankai. A closer translation is more clear that he's telling Hisagi to use bankai despite him not having it (IE, he's ordering Hisagi to obtain it and show him), and he was going to have Mashiro beat the crap out of Hisagi in an attempt to force it out of him.
    Do you speak Japanese? (not calling your bluff, just honestly curious if you do).

    Either way, it's reasonable to assume by that panel that Hisagi attained it if Kensei was forcing it from him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fwahm View Post
    That's a mistranslation (or rather, a misleading translation); Kensei never says that Hisagi can currently (as of that chapter) use bankai. A closer translation is more clear that he's telling Hisagi to use bankai despite him not having it (IE, he's ordering Hisagi to obtain it and show him), and he was going to have Mashiro beat the crap out of Hisagi in an attempt to force it out of him.
    I don't speak Japanese so I can't directly dispute you, but I've never heard this argument before and I'm not inclined to think MangaStream would go with such an intentionally misleading translation (and then never get called on it). There is also an interview (that I cannot currently look for) before this final arc where Kubo says we have yet to see a lot of bankais, including Hisagi's.

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    I don't personally speak Japanese, no, but there's been a few discussions about it on a couple other forums I sometimes frequent (including Mangahelpers and Gamefaqs), where there are multiple people who can read Japanese talked about it. One of them is quite known over on the MH forums for his accuracy (I believe his name is Hermes).

    It's still entirely possible that he's got bankai; I'm just starting to personally doubt it since Kubo has passed up showing it so many times, and there's only like two foes left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fwahm View Post
    ... Gamefaqs...
    The most reputable source.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fwahm View Post
    ...there's only like two foes left.
    Kira's still cleaning up the Cap'n Commander's owls.
    Askin only lost his heart; so either Nel got everyone out of there or Benihime is still hacking them all to bits.
    Gerard is a giant unstoppable plasma-warrior.
    Hashbrowns and JSBach.
    Aizen.

    Plenty of shit still happening, but one thing that definitely already happened is Hisagi obtaining bankai before the arc.

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    Oh god damn it Kubo. Why do you keep giving just barely enough to read the next week.

    Fuck your family reunions.

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    Chapter was sucky until the last few pages. Not really much happened, but such are the hype chapters.

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    Have we seen Ishin's bankai?

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    No, but it should be along some lines close to Ichigo... right? Cause of the fusion of powers and stuff¿?

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    Am I the only one who finds Bleach's storyline full of bullshit?

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    Yes. We've all been posting in this thread for years because we believe in Kubo's storytelling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vathris View Post
    No, but it should be along some lines close to Ichigo... right? Cause of the fusion of powers and stuff¿?
    Who knows, but also, we haven't seen Ichigo's either, have we?

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    IIRC all we know about Isshin's zanpaktou is that it's fire based amd has getsuga tenshou (including the final getsuga)

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    Random question,

    Why is it that Hisagi and Ichigo look alike again?

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    Wasn't Ichigo's dad part of that family? Or am I just completely making things up?

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    It's not Hisagi and Ichigo. It's Kaien and Ichigo that are related. Hisagi's just a coincidence.

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    The Shiba Clan was one of the Four Great Noble Houses of the Seireitei until Isshin chose to defect from his shinigami duties and live in KK. At that time Clan Shiba fell from grace, which is why Kukaku fucking hates him.

    He defected, of course, to live with Masaki Kurosaki, so it was at that time he renounced his Shiba surname and assumed hers.

    Hisagi looks like Ichigo and Kaien by sheer coincidence -- there is no relation.

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