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    If Yhwach still has his blind spot for actions done by aspects of the Spirit King, something involving Ichigo fusing with a part of the Spirit King/becoming the new Spirit King/being revealed to be descended from the Spirit King is the only thing I can think of to beat him without Yhwach getting hit with the stupid stick super hard.

    Maybe Ichigo should go eat Gerard or something.

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    Can't fix a broken Bankai.

    Guess Ichigo's going back to the palace again. 3 more years of Bleach!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kanriel View Post
    There literally is no counter to being able to go into the future and change things. That's why time travel is almost always a completely broken ability in any universe. Unless Orihime has some way to make something "immune" to his ability there's nothing that really can be done, so it's all absurd.
    If that's what he is actually doing sure but seems like he is purposefully keeping the wording ambiguous enough to lead Ichigo into thinking something like that to make Ichigo act in more predictable ways because it probably is something as simple as on top of seeing the possible futures he can tell what it takes to those possibilities

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serra View Post
    The hype train has crashed..
    lmao but that double double page is trolling at its finest

    Quote Originally Posted by Tymon View Post
    Can't fix a broken Bankai.

    Guess Ichigo's going back to the palace again. 3 more years of Bleach!
    Retcon inc

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    Wow, figured we'd at least get to see Ichigo's new Bankai in action before Bach did his asspull.

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    Plot Twist that wasn't even his final fo... er full Bankai it was just when performing his Bankai while using his Hollow powers his swords get combined. Next chapter the hollow part of the sword will automatically use high speed regeneration pulling it back together And his outfit is half his bankai like before but now enhances his speed even more than his old bankai and makes him immune to future sight....

    Then both Ichigo and Ywach will fall to the ground bleeding out as the scene disappears and Aizen appears revealing this had been his plan all along and the entire fight didn't happen like we saw because of his hypnosis. And he was just getting them to launch attacks powerful enough to break his chair

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    I fully expect this to turn out to be one of the futures Ywach sees, and not the present.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tymon View Post
    Can't fix a broken Bankai.

    Guess Ichigo's going back to the palace again. 3 more years of Bleach!
    Orihime will un-break it, guaranteed.

    It's strong enough that Yhwach didn't want to deal with it, so we know it's gonna be dope when we see it.

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    I bet Aizen actually WILL play in. Distorting Bach's ability to perceive any future involving Aizen and Ichigo.

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    I can see that, though it would mean Aizen has been messing with Bach since before he was at full power. Otherwise he would have seen it coming. It would be very long-game, which is unfortunately typical Aizen. :/

    Actually, that brings up a point. It really doesn't matter how far Bach can see into the future (or transform it, w/e). Anyone that plays a longer game than he can see would eventually be able to win.

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    Don't think Bach had his derp eyes yet when Aizen fucked with his sense of time.

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    No, but he had the Almighty, which is used to shape the future.

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    I thought the derp eyes was the awakening of the almighty?

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    The full awakening, sure.

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    Yhwach didn't have Almighty available until his fight with Ichibei.

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    Yet even before the fight he knew exactly what, when, where and how the fight would go.

    Begs the question of the difference between the full awakening and the later.

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    I'm wondering what kind of bullshit trick they will find to beat Ywach...

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    What if Aizen just maintains his illusions basically forever? Ywach should never see the real future then. Plus how much farther does Aizen power along those lines go anyways? Like does he still have access to his sword's abilities? If so how much farther does his mind fucking go. Can he mess with the things you see in your head like future seeing? Just make Ywach see that certain lines of action will make the future the way he wants and bam he defeats himself probably even easier than just making people see the wrong thing in the here and now

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    Once people have seen the release Aizen can activate it any time, so it's not like Bach would be aware because he can only see futures that are in front, like grains of sand. If Aizen paints those grains a different color it doesn't matter if Bach looks that way or not he wouldn't see it.

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    Except how would Aizen know the first fucking thing about Bach's threads of fate grains-of-sand interpretation of all possible futures? On TeamProtagonist, don't only Ichigo and TitsMcGee know from the exposition Bach yelled at them this last chapter? I mean, yes, there was probably ample research material available for Aizen from the events of 1,000 years ago, but likely nothing that specific about Bach's true precog abilities.

    And if perfect hypnosis is Aizen's shikai ability, it's begged the quesiton for years what insane broken abilities his bankai might possess. Something powerful enough to disrupt Bach's precognition? So far, the only entity that has really caught him unawares is Mimihagi. Makes me think that Ichigo will acquire some sorta Soul King hax to finish this once and for all.