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    I'm going to be very said if those fracciones can be done in by Vice Captains. You would think being the fracciones of Espadas 1-3 would mean something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Souj View Post
    "he's the only person to make captain without achieving Bankai" is what they say.
    you can't release your sword without knowing its name and he doesn't know its name

    and lol @ the bankai comment with 2 hands

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    Quote Originally Posted by LinktheDeme View Post
    you can't release your sword without knowing its name and he doesn't know its name
    yeah, but they say "bankai" and not "name".
    semantics yes, but i'm right

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    Quote Originally Posted by Souj View Post
    yeah, but they say "bankai" and not "name".
    semantics yes, but i'm right
    No zaraki says when ichigo beats him that he doesn't know the name of his sword because he doesn't rely on the power of others to help him only his own. Then he asks the name of the sword and the sword doesn't respond to him.

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    I am/was referring to when he's described as "the only person to become a captain without achieving bankai".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Souj View Post
    I am/was referring to when he's described as "the only person to become a captain without achieving bankai".
    And you also said this


    Quote Originally Posted by Souj View Post
    " Originally Posted by LinktheDeme View Post
    zaraki doesnt even have a shikai and he can solo the world ;o"

    why are there still people who dont think Zaraki has shikai?

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    Am I missing the point?
    last I checked you can have shikai and not bankai.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Souj View Post
    Am I missing the point?
    last I checked you can have shikai and not bankai.
    you can't release a shikai form without knowing its name to release it even if it's a perma shikai.

    also why the fuck doesnt ichigo ever use his sword like its supposed to be used? swinging it from the strap thats on there like hollow ichigo did ;o

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    Can't really say I'm looking forward to the other VC fights. Ikkaku's will probably just resemble his earlier one where he used bankai. Kira will just outsmart his by taking advantage of Wabisuke's weight doubling effect. I guess the only thing of particular interest will be seeing Shuhei's shikai (don't think we have, but could be wrong).

    Would rather see the Vizard fight them, if anything. Hiyori vs Flaming Faggot would've been entertaining, I think.

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    /facepalm

    1.) Use of Shikai requires the name of the sword. Some translations have said that the sheer amount of spiritual pressure he has forces the sword to self-release, or that it is constant-release type, but I have never seen it flat out confirmed that he does have Shikai.

    2.) Because Shirosaki uses Zangetsu one way is how it's supposed to be used? GTFO.

    3.) No, Hisagi's shikai has not been seen yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arus2001 View Post
    Would rather see the Vizard fight them, if anything. Hiyori vs Flaming Faggot would've been entertaining, I think.
    Yes please. They're 300 bajillion times more interesting than almost all the fucking captains put together.

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    Didn't zaraki once state in the manga or a flashback somewhere that he "forgot" the name of his sword, and not that hes never known it at all? Pretty sure it's always released just like ichigo's and that he just doesn't know its name, in fact, if you go way back in the thread, I'm pretty sure it was discussed already and there was evidence and pictures posted about it, and then it wasn't discussed again cause a conclusion had been made.

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    I still believe his swords name is Yachiru.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boyiee View Post
    Didn't zaraki once state in the manga or a flashback somewhere that he "forgot" the name of his sword, and not that hes never known it at all? Pretty sure it's always released just like ichigo's and that he just doesn't know its name, in fact, if you go way back in the thread, I'm pretty sure it was discussed already and there was evidence and pictures posted about it, and then it wasn't discussed again cause a conclusion had been made.
    yes. but arguing with people who wont listen is annoying, so I gave up >.>



    I also always had the theory (not one I cant really say I believe, but would be funny if it was true) that Yachiru was the name of his sword, and Yachiru the girl was actually his zanpaktous spirit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Souj View Post
    yes. but arguing with people who wont listen is annoying, so I gave up >.>



    I also always had the theory (not one I cant really say I believe, but would be funny if it was true) that Yachiru was the name of his sword, and Yachiru the girl was actually his zanpaktous spirit.
    I've always thought of this one too, which would be interesting. It would mean that Zaraki already has Manifestation down for Bankai, even if he doesn't know it.

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    That would be interesting if that turned out to be true. I almost want that to happen now to add more depth to his character, even though he is already one of the best characters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Blackrose View Post
    I've always thought of this one too, which would be interesting. It would mean that Zaraki already has Manifestation down for Bankai, even if he doesn't know it.
    doesn't she have her own soul slayer sword though? It's a pretty good theory though I actually believe something similar since we've never seen her sword let alone see her release it. If that happened though would disprove this theory ;/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcicus View Post
    I'm going to be very said if those fracciones can be done in by Vice Captains. You would think being the fracciones of Espadas 1-3 would mean something.
    Why would you think that? If they're fraccion, that's proof that the strongest they might be is still weaker than Yammy. Considering what a pussy Yammy is, that doesn't bode well for these four.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turambar View Post
    Why would you think that? If they're fraccion, that's proof that the strongest they might be is still weaker than Yammy. Considering what a pussy Yammy is, that doesn't bode well for these four.
    I just noticed Yammy still hasnt showed up. Kubo hoping we forgot all about him? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by LinktheDeme View Post
    also why the fuck doesnt ichigo ever use his sword like its supposed to be used? swinging it from the strap thats on there like hollow ichigo did ;o
    He did once, right after he mastered his Bankai and saved Rukai from execution. Other than that, maybe they are just saving that type of stuff for when they need to show more Ichigo badassery.

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