Bleach

[Guitarman]

Has Urahara shown up yet? or Shusui/stark fight started? Seems those 3 are just jerkin off in no mans land for ages waiting for airtime.

Guessing its gonna be kenpachi saving ichigo's ass yet again, which isnt a bad thing for me, i still get a kick out of how stupidly strong he is.

[Draggy]

I see that he can't be arsed to draw hollow holes anymore either lol.
you know like yammy, and that massive unmissable hole he had right in the middle of his chest?

[Serif]

I don't see why everyone is saying that Ichigo is fucked and all this random power up shit is stupid. The manga also kind of explains how everyone is feeling though about his power range as well.

It has been stated that he is already stronger than Ulq.

Bleach 193 page 20 | One Manga

Also with the real war, I take it we are still a FAR way from it. Seeing how all the preparations were still made for Winter. I don't think the creator will stray from it, could be wrong though.

When Aizen, if he does, gets done with the fake Kara town they have to go to SS and fight there.

[Chelly]

thats what im thinkin, is that ichigo had all that crazy power all along
but is too much of a noob to know how to use it

just like what was shown in that page above this post that ichigo was fluctuating between
<too weak> and <impossible to gauge>

that aside, its buggin me too that those holes arent being drawn anymore lol

[Boyiee]

I liked the getsuya thing in his sword... You guys have too much hate..

"The writing is bad there is no direction he doesnt even know what he's doing"

Sure, maybe it's slow, and kind of boring, but I'd put money on him knowing where he is going, just dragging it out as long as he can for the $$$. Give it a rest. Yes we are getting too much dialogue and we aren't sure where he is going, but that just means it's good writing. Would you rather foreshadow everything so we know 2months in advance whats going to happen? Isn't it obvious enough that ichigo is going to get a powerup, or learn something new (like harnessing some more of his power that is above everyone elses that we've seen thusfar)? I don't know about you, but it's pretty fucking obvious thats going to happen, since that's how he's beaten everyone since the start. He's tapped into his "open faucet" so to speak and figures it out. The power that has ALWAYS been there.

I can tell you more about whats going to happen next week in Naruto before I can tell you what the fuck is going to happen in bleach, it makes so little sense and is so random with its progression that it's actually more suspenseful... that is, if it wasn't dragging out with dialogue.

Sure, I'm more excited for other mangas chapters next week, whereas in the past I've typically looked forward to bleach more... But saying the writer doesn't know what he is doing is ignorance. Plain and stupid to say. This is business, this is how he feeds his family, he's not going to just randomly throw shit together and beat around the bush and risk losing fans. Sooner or later he'll probably WOW us. Not to mention, with Naruto and One Piece being like they have been lately, bleach is probably being told by shounen to tone it down, and wait for them to start dragging before bleach picks it back up. Every manga shouldn't be good at the same time, it would sell less books. 1 Manga should be amazing, 1 decent, 1 shitty. Then the amazing one drops to shitty and is boring, while the others take over - that's how it's always seemed to have been.

[Boyiee]

Next chapter:

We see Halbiel staring down Hitsugaya, as well as other espada staring down their captain counterparts. Aizen says something like "looks like it's about to begin". After some more talk, when the fight is about to start, we flash over to Hueco Mundo for what Renji, Rukia, and everyone except for Ichigo/Orihime/Ulq is doing. Probably 2 chapters for all of this.

Next:

More of Hueco mundo, non-Ichigo stuff. At the end looks like Ichigo is about to fight. Manga goes on break for 2 weeks.

That's probably pretty close to exactly what the next 10-12 weeks will hold.. So yeah, maybe a 3month break for you guys is good idea now. Expect month 4 to actually show the Ichigo fight, or ONE of the espada fights. Note::: Each fight vs each espada will be about 5 chapters alone, if not more. Will probably start with Least important fight (halbiel) or ichigo's fight, since if they do Ichigo's for 5+ chapters, they can spend the next 5+ chapters talking about how to get out of Hueco Mundo and join the people in the real world..

I posted this forever ago. like page 100... I said about 6 total "next weeks" and I'm just amazed at how fucking accurate the last 2 were. I said I was going to quote it all one day, and wow. WOW. THE 2 WEEK BREAK PART IS AMAZING!

[Zilong]

I liked the getsuya thing in his sword... You guys have too much hate..

"The writing is bad there is no direction he doesnt even know what he's doing"

Sure, maybe it's slow, and kind of boring, but I'd put money on him knowing where he is going, just dragging it out as long as he can for the $$$. Give it a rest. Yes we are getting too much dialogue and we aren't sure where he is going, but that just means it's good writing. Would you rather foreshadow everything so we know 2months in advance whats going to happen? Isn't it obvious enough that ichigo is going to get a powerup, or learn something new (like harnessing some more of his power that is above everyone elses that we've seen thusfar)? I don't know about you, but it's pretty fucking obvious thats going to happen, since that's how he's beaten everyone since the start. He's tapped into his "open faucet" so to speak and figures it out. The power that has ALWAYS been there.

I can tell you more about whats going to happen next week in Naruto before I can tell you what the fuck is going to happen in bleach, it makes so little sense and is so random with its progression that it's actually more suspenseful... that is, if it wasn't dragging out with dialogue.

Sure, I'm more excited for other mangas chapters next week, whereas in the past I've typically looked forward to bleach more... But saying the writer doesn't know what he is doing is ignorance. Plain and stupid to say. This is business, this is how he feeds his family, he's not going to just randomly throw shit together and beat around the bush and risk losing fans. Sooner or later he'll probably WOW us. Not to mention, with Naruto and One Piece being like they have been lately, bleach is probably being told by shounen to tone it down, and wait for them to start dragging before bleach picks it back up. Every manga shouldn't be good at the same time, it would sell less books. 1 Manga should be amazing, 1 decent, 1 shitty. Then the amazing one drops to shitty and is boring, while the others take over - that's how it's always seemed to have been.

The infusing projectile into the point of contact for greater effect concept would have been nice if negima hasn't done it about 20-30 chapters ago.

When a fucking fanservice series about a 10 year old boy wizard starts outdoing your shonen tech, you know you're in the shitter.

And rather than being shitty, it's possible to you know, take a few weeks break if jump's fucking lineup is that great...even then jump doesn't run on the big 3 alone, and I'd imagine there are some monthly/weekly questionaire for overall quality of manga so they'd know which one to axe for the more promising newcomers.

I don't buy that the editor is purposely telling kubo tite to suck, beside bleach has been sucking pretty fucking consistently while naruto/one piece hasn't be zomg fucking epic over all the time bleach sucked (which is well over a year now probably)

It's running on the power of retard fanboys, which you seem to be the part of if you honestly thinks that kubo tite isn't a fucking hack at this point.

Seriously, do what the HxH guy is doing, at least he got the balls to realize that he's really suck at combining action and storyline and take extended breaks.

[Eaglestrike]

Negima is awesome though!

Bleach needs to speed up, I don't think it's fair to say more than that. It is possible Kubo knows where he's going, just going about it too slowly. It's also possible he has no clue what he's going to do, but lol we'll see.

Also, someone linked to chapter 193, I read a couple chapters in and that's Ichigo being emo before Orihime is taken, and Ichigo promises he'll get stronger and protect her next time. Well we're now at next time...

[kuronosan]

Boyiee isn't even a bleach fanboy. What the hell are you on?

Seriously, Bleach needs to speed up its pace.

In Naruto (which I don't even read) I saw that the main character came back, destroyed 4 or 5 of the main bad guy's minions, and looked badass, all within a two chapter span.

In Bleach, all Ichigo has managed to do is shout "shut up!" "stop it!" "that's enough!" "shit talk lol" and take a few swings with his sword. Orihimme looked useful at the end of one chapter then backed off and stopped helping because Ichigo's a pussy in the next one.

ULQUIORRA got more development in two chapters than Ichigo.

Nothing worth noting has happened in this arc and it doesn't feel like it's building to anything. It's almost a girl jerking you off and then stopping just before you come. When the fuck are the good parts coming (no pun intended)?

[Khalil]

Boyiee isn't even a bleach fanboy. What the hell are you on?

Seriously, Bleach needs to speed up its pace.

In Naruto (which I don't even read) I saw that the main character came back, destroyed 4 or 5 of the main bad guy's minions, and looked badass, all within a two chapter span.

In Bleach, all Ichigo has managed to do is shout "shut up!" "stop it!" "that's enough!" "shit talk lol" and take a few swings with his sword. Orihimme looked useful at the end of one chapter then backed off and stopped helping because Ichigo's a pussy in the next one.

ULQUIORRA got more development in two chapters than Ichigo.

Nothing worth noting has happened in this arc and it doesn't feel like it's building to anything. It's almost a girl jerking you off and then stopping just before you come. When the fuck are the good parts coming (no pun intended)?

As much as I do agree with you, patient is a virtue. I'm hoping Kubo has something in stores for Ichigo and the remaining Shinigamies left in Hueco Mundo. Besides, we haven't seen Unohana fight at all. This may be the perfect opportunity to see her fight. If what he's baked up fails, meh, we always have Naruto to fall back on, lol.

[Souj]

Nothing worth noting has happened in this arc and it doesn't feel like it's building to anything. It's almost a girl jerking you off and then stopping just before you come. When the fuck are the good parts coming (no pun intended)?

actually I'd say it's more like a girl taking your dick out of your pants then walking away.

[Boyiee]

Far far far from a fanboy... but I think that this much hate on tite is just retarded. The manga has had some really good points, obviously he's capable of it and sooner or later I'm sure it'll deliver. I agree that its slow, dragging, needs to pick up, but at least in the meantime there are about 5+ other manga and several anime's that are rocking right now - so I can see why it would be slacking with so much competition, and it really doesn't bother me that it does.

Khalil I was thinking for a while that Orihime would pull the "Im not afraid anymore, I'm not going to let my friends protect me anymore, I'm going to protect them" and go phoenix or Ichigo going full hollow. Kubo has something planned, and like you said, if it fails, then it fails. He has delivered before but something will happen at some point. Ichigo is getting extremely frustrated and pissed off right now, Orihime is in danger, If yammy didn't barge in the room I'd expect ichigo to pull the faucet crazy strength move within the next 2 chapters... the yammy thing throws me off.

Like I said, you guys say it's bad writing, and it is... with the slowness - but I don't agree with the "he doesn't know what he's doing". I think it's actually good writing that I can't even phathom what the fuck he plans to do with Yammy. Yeah, it could be stupid and boring, but there is not an ounce of forshadowing involved and the fact that he leaves us going "wtf what is he doing where is this going" I think is better than us going "oh, next week is this, and next week is this, and next week is this" even though I already pulled that card as I quoted a few posts ago and nailed it.

Also, lol @ balls to realize something. I've been posting in this thread since the first few pages and have said time and time again how bad some of it is, how bad the writing has been (you summed it up well with combining story and action), and how overall I am enjoying every other manga I'm into a ton more.

I don't think the getsuya was all that unimpressive. It made for greater power at point of contact and also a close range getsuya like which fucked up Grimjow... It was a pretty good innovation on his part, and seeing Ulq surprised always gets me off since his emotions/reactions are always identical.

People would be more annoyed at a several week break then releasing shitty chapters btw. And it's entirely possible for Shounen to have some manga sit on the back burner while others are getting hot. It's business, it sells more mangas that way. If you think that company wont do something like that for more money, it's very ignorant. They are not there to make fans happy, they are in it for the moneyz.

[Zilong]

I dunno about shitty chapter vs break. Break annoys me and all, but at least it won't ruin my overall expectation of a series.

Then again, that's assuming I had expectations of bleach, which I haven't had since...

I think the last time I was still enjoying bleach was ichigo vs byakuya fight, or the kenpachi vs blind guy.

It's like since they left soul society, every fucking person just turn retarded and not know what their fucking goal is. I mean sure they finally decide to get Aizen, and sure they're finally in the hueco mundo, but between getting there, and up to this point, the goddamn series takes as much side trip and introduces as much useless side characters as a season of Pokemon...

[CrimsonAngel]

Ok, to ppl who say there isnt a stroy line or that ichigo getting stronger is out of the blue heres some things i noticed in bleach (if any one can give me the answers plz do!

ok for the storyline

in chapter 178 when aizen gets abducted by the menos, in the dimension rip theres that big white cut out of no where that looks like a big eye, and no one knows what it is so it could be one big-A hollow or something stronger than a hollow

a couple arrancar seem to have been around way before aizen started making them probably meaning something pretty friggin strong

and for ichigo's strength

his mother was eatin by grand fissure meaning that she had abnormal amounts of spirit energy, and the fact that his dad is a former gotei 13 captian

and aizen said that to break the shinigami limits you would have to become like a hollow or a hollow to become like a shinigami, though the arrancar and vaizards are freakishly strong they were all became vaizard or arrancar by unnatural means while ichigo became vaizard naturally.

this is just what i observed, not tryin to make enemys

[Zilong]

Didn't his mother got killed for trying to protect him?

And I could've sworn ichigo's hollow side is awakened because of Kisuke's way of transforming him into a shinigami at the start of soul society arc, which makes the whole thing artificial.

[Souj]

in chapter 178 when aizen gets abducted by the menos, in the dimension rip theres that big white cut out of no where that looks like a big eye, and no one knows what it is so it could be one big-A hollow or something stronger than a hollow

can't say one way or the other. there was definitely something there with the crescent shape, but nothings been alluded to.

a couple arrancar seem to have been around way before aizen started making them probably meaning something pretty friggin strong

It's been stated in the manga, Arrancerization happens naturally. all it is are a group of hollows merge to gether to form a menos. most the time the menos just becomes some huge hollow with no will of its own, but sometimes one of the individual hollows personality takes over the will of the group. that menos can then move onto the next stage of evolution by consuming many more aware hollows. though apparently some of the aware menos have a limit to how strong they can get and cannot become arrancer no matter how many souls they eat.
Once an menos reaches arrancer, they must continue to eat souls or they will degenerate back into menos, but will lose their personality forever so they will be unable to return back into an arrancer

and for ichigo's strength

his mother was eatin by grand fissure meaning that she had abnormal amounts of spirit energy, and the fact that his dad is a former gotei 13 captian

Grand Fisher*

and aizen said that to break the shinigami limits you would have to become like a hollow or a hollow to become like a shinigami, though the arrancar and vaizards are freakishly strong they were all became vaizard or arrancar by unnatural means while ichigo became vaizard naturally.

this is just what i observed, not tryin to make enemys

not exactly sure what youre trying to say but...
yes, after a hollow or shinigami have reached their limits, the only way to get stronger would to become a viazard or arrancer.
both Arrancar and Viazards can come about "natural ways". the houkuyathingy(no idea what it's actually called) just forces it to happen and it does it faster and better. Like how a fire can start naturally, but gasoline and a match can do it better.

Didn't his mother got killed for trying to protect him?

And I could've sworn ichigo's hollow side is awakened because of Kisuke's way of transforming him into a shinigami at the start of soul society arc, which makes the whole thing artificial.

yeah, she died protecting ichigo.
and for the sake of terminology, I think "natural way" is just used to describe ways in which it happens where it isnt "forced" upon the person. like the houyukoyuiuyo, and however shinji and co were changed.
though I'm still a little wishy washy on using that term for ichigo because Urahara set up the conditions as perfect as he could. but he could have easily not become a viazard and just turned into regular hollow instead, so it wasnt really forced.

[arus2001]

All this kind of strikes me as not getting enough pages a week to really flesh stuff out enough. I feel the same way about Claymore, but that's just worse since it's once a month.

[CrimsonAngel]

ah... well i feel like a dumbass. lol


Btw thnx for the info Souj & Zilong

[Kaylia]

All this kind of strikes me as not getting enough pages a week to really flesh stuff out enough. I feel the same way about Claymore, but that's just worse since it's once a month.

Many manga are able to fit a complete fight inside 17 pages, with decent dialogue. It's not like it can't be done.

[Tymon]

It's been stated in the manga, Arrancerization happens naturally. all it is are a group of hollows merge to gether to form a menos. most the time the menos just becomes some huge hollow with no will of its own, but sometimes one of the individual hollows personality takes over the will of the group. that menos can then move onto the next stage of evolution by consuming many more aware hollows. though apparently some of the aware menos have a limit to how strong they can get and cannot become arrancer no matter how many souls they eat.
Once an menos reaches arrancer, they must continue to eat souls or they will degenerate back into menos, but will lose their personality forever so they will be unable to return back into an arrancer

That would be Adjuchas, not Arrancar. An arrancar is a hollow that removed it's mask and gained Shinigami-esque powers.

An Adjuchas is the second in the evolutionary line of a hollow.

You have hollows, some of these eat other hollows, and eventually would merge into a Menos. In even rarer cases, a hollow in this massive clusterfuck would have a will strong enough to control the menos entirely, and if this menos continues to eat hollows, eventually it will reach the second stage, Adjuchas.

All of the current Espada are former Adjuchas. Aroneiro was a Menos.

The final stage is Vasto Lorde, but we've seen none of those and it's only assumed that Adjuchas continue to evolve eventually into one of these after enough time.

Arrancar do not need to consume hollows. it's a permanent transformation.