Bleach

[Kaylia]

people are hating on bleach when this is the climax we've been waiting for... it's going to be amazing if Ichigo goes into that uncontrollable hollow form, or attains something new that hasn't been seen yet.

If he does go full hollow, since hes dead and all, then after he rapes Ulq he's probably still going to be on a berserk rampage and it'll probably take the other captains to stop him or even kill him.

All it take is Urahara. He did the same in pendulum arc to Vizard.

[altwight]

yea urahara will come most likely. that or the vaizards will finally show up and know what to do

[Serif]

Highly doubt the Vaizards will be in HM.

Urahara is a possibility, would be bad ass if Ichigo did own the rest of the Captains and Urahara finally showed his bankai. ;;

[deivi]

pretty late with this but god Mayuri looks like such a tool lol

[Nuriko]

I could see it being Urahara as well coming to contain Ichigo, after all he's probably working on a way to open another path to HM anyway so the other captains can get back.

[arus2001]

Vaguely recall Urahara implying his zanpakutou was for more defensive purposes, as well. If Ichigo goes batshit crazy and has the power to overrun even heavy offensive types like Kenpachi, then it's possible he'll be needed to simply contain Ichigo, let alone get him subdued.

[Souj]

Vaguely recall Urahara implying his zanpakutou was for more defensive purposes

It was actually implied Urahara's bankai was extremely offensive imo.
Urahara asked Renji to train with Chad because he himself couldnt due to his zanpaktou being unsuitable to train people. meaning it's probably some massive attacking type like Byakuya's pretty pink flowers, or Mayuri's poison
wouldn't see how being defense wouldnt help Chad train. instantly killing chad however, would be quite detrimental to his efforts.

[Kaylia]

It probably doesnt mean shit, because he doesnt even need his bankai to beat them.

[Guitarman]

At this point, Urahara's bankai better be omgwtf retarded strong when he finally fights. None of this "oh no i might lose" crap.

[Mr. Flippy]

srsly. urahara better pull some shit out of his lazy ass. also would be interesting to see old man yama release his bankai

[Guitarman]

I see yama turning into a flame golem for some reason.

[Elondir]

It was actually implied Urahara's bankai was extremely offensive imo.
Urahara asked Renji to train with Chad because he himself couldnt due to his zanpaktou being unsuitable to train people. meaning it's probably some massive attacking type like Byakuya's pretty pink flowers, or Mayuri's poison
wouldn't see how being defense wouldnt help Chad train. instantly killing chad however, would be quite detrimental to his efforts.

I thought this was slightly more subtle, and jumped ahead to thinking his Bankai was some Sharingan-style, learn anything that's used against him power and as such he can't help others develop.

[CrimsonAngel]

all of the story stuff of bleach aside, Tite is one friggin talented manga-ka, you never really know how hard manga is to draw until you've tried it yourself. been drawin for six months and im jus now startin to get bodys right(though still cant do hands or feet...). so to Kubo-sensei... you are a friggin Master!!!

[Zilong]

That's not a valid enough argument when there are other mangaka doing the same thing better for longer than he is.

Also, cocks

[CrimsonAngel]

but you have to admit he's one of the few who honestly do as much crosshatching that he does, most new mangakas use tone's and computers to get there shadows on

[Zilong]

Boo fucking hoo, learn to use new technology or get the fuck out. You don't become good by making shit harder on yourself, you're good if your manga actually gets somewhere within reasonable timeframe, you're good if your reader doesn't feel like a fucking retard reading 10/20 pages a week of blank space and bullshit dialogues with no plot progression.

If you want to be impressed by a style that takes an extra effort to do, read Vagabond by Takehiko Inoue.

His style is worth masturbating over, Kubo Tite's isn't.

edit: Beside, mangaka with series like bleach would have few assistants working on the minor details like shading, toning and shit, so fuck that noise, seriously

[arus2001]

Yet for all the rage, you still read.

Anyway, since I don't know Crimson's artistic background, I can't really say if they're doing anything right or wrong. I threw a couple years into art school, myself, but got burnt out when things started turning a hobby I liked into something I grew to despise. Plus the things I like to draw don't have a particularly large mainstream market and I couldn't see myself doing crap for Cartoon Network and the like for a living without wanting to kill myself. So, I just draw for myself these days when the mood strikes and I have some free time.

Since manga isn't a style typically bound by realism, it leaves a lot of room for shortcuts and levels of personal mastery that make the process easier. Since we're often seeing doctored scans, it's hard to say how much quality is lost in the transition from panel to print to scanner to some guy's copy of photoshop. What's considered "better" is often just a different style. Think the main thing to look for is consistency from the artist. If stuff looks way off every issue or so, then something's up. Probably the most recent thing that sticks out in this regard for Bleach was Yammy and him somehow going supersized, but if it's a result of that fraccion's release shrinking her, we missed something that wasn't explained.

[Zilong]

What can I say, I like watching trainwrecks.

Beside, it's like 3 min of reading, and I go to the same site for other weekly manga that doesn't suck ass anyway, so it's just a habitual thing nowadays

[CrimsonAngel]

if i ever have a world popular manga {though being an american mangaka i dont think its possible} im gonna come here for critique advice~{if you even read it} you can find some honest people here, ahhh~ good timez, good timez~

[finitek]

It's obvious that Zilong just likes to bitch about Bleach.

Every week people complain about some aspect of the story/artwork/anime whatever.

There must be some theoretical point where people stop spouting hate and just accept the story for what it is. No one forces anyone to read/watch Bleach.

The target audience is 12-16 year old kids. It's kinda like bitching about cartoons in the 80's POINTLESS.

The story is interesting if cliche to other Shonen, but oh well...