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    Quote Originally Posted by Hirokei Kiaza View Post
    And here I thought I was one of the more lenient ones towards this manga on this thread lol. This some kind of counting game on who can criticize Bleach more or less then the next person? Or just trolling?
    How does that change the fact that you have been coming up in this thread without fail every single week and have been Sutraing(new word, Neosutra level QQing) it up every chance you get?

    I'm one of the first people to spot bullshit too. However, considering Kubo has always made people stronger than they appear to be since day one, and coupled with the fact that each Espada has had something special about him/her (I guess the only exception is Grimmjow?), is it so hard to believe? Really?

    Bleach has been down since Kenpachi bulled that BS OHKO move on Nnoritora, I know. But the majority of you are just nitpicking at this point because it's the cool thing to do.

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    So, Hitsugaya was getting owned and Halbiel didn't release yet... But did anyone notice that it looked like a wave a water behind her? That makes her susceptible to him, since wherever there is water (ie atmosphere) he can turn it to ice... guess we'll see.

    I personally want to see the fight on earth because it'll give us an idea of how powerful yammy is. As mentioned before, the comment he made about "we" not regenerating like "your" eyes do to ulq... want more explanation.

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    I would agree with that statement except for the fact that he has already said that technique takes a long time to form (see Luppi vs Hitsugaya). Although it could be something brand new, idk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drex View Post
    He said yammy's no match at his current level, not that he isn't strong enough ever. I think it's random out-of-the-ass bs too, just saying it's not that farfetched based on that scene.
    I more or less meant Ulquiorra's attitude towards Yammy. Ulq wouldn't do that if Yammy was a potentially higher rank then him, unless of course Yammy kept the whole "0" status a secret. Which is still retarded but I guess it's in line with typical shonen fashion.

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    Yammi said he had been storing up spirit energy for a long time in order to release it all at once. His released number might be related to the amount of energy he's stored. It could also explain why Ulq said he's not strong enough at his level early on, since he hadn't stored any energy yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcicus View Post
    How does that change the fact that you have been coming up in this thread without fail every single week and have been Sutraing(new word, Neosutra level QQing) it up every chance you get?

    I'm one of the first people to spot bullshit too. However, considering Kubo has always made people stronger than they appear to be since day one, and coupled with the fact that each Espada has had something special about him/her (I guess the only exception is Grimmjow?), is it so hard to believe? Really?

    Bleach has been down since Kenpachi bulled that BS OHKO move on Nnoritora, I know. But the majority of you are just nitpicking at this point because it's the cool thing to do.
    Every week without fail...really!? You should look up posts and their dates before you make up such statements out of your ass. Bleach has been on the downturn since the Pendulum arc, this is no secret. What exactly is it you want people to post?

    - Jump for joy at fights with characters people care little about?
    - Joke about Ichigo coming back to life with his new demon power, long hair and all a la Yu Yu Hakusho, only to watch it pathetically come to reality?
    - Claim what an incredible plot twist the weakest Espada is now suddenly the strongest, disregarding all logic established in the current canon of the story?

    Shunsui vs Stark is one of the few enjoyable aspects left at the moment.

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    Bullshit plot twist because it doesn't follow logic? Lol, I'm sorry that you can't see, for whatever reason, that yammy wasn't killed before ulquorria and we are now seeing why, although i must admit the stage Kubo set up for him could have been better.

    Can we change this to the Bleach venting thread? At this point you and several others are just grasping at straws here.

    edit: So after Stark wipes the floor with Shunsui (yeah I'm calling it now, what motherfuckers?) can you not post here anymore since it is so hard for you to keep reading?

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    : So after Stark wipes the floor with Shunsui (yeah I'm calling it now, what motherfuckers?) can you not post here anymore since it is so hard for you to keep reading?
    Fuck it, I can't post an image in spoiler tags. But ethug go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcicus View Post
    Bullshit plot twist because it doesn't follow logic? Lol, I'm sorry that you can't see, for whatever reason, that yammy wasn't killed before ulquorria and we are now seeing why, although i must admit the stage Kubo set up for him could have been better.

    Can we change this to the Bleach venting thread? At this point you and several others are just grasping at straws here.
    Who the hell said Yammy needed to be killed before Ulq for any of this to make sense? Again, stop making up crap to support your argument. The revelation of Yammy being the strongest was pitifully executed because it needs a shit load of explaining while taking an ass-load of liberties with the established story-line.

    What part of this don't you agree with? Would you rather we patronize Kubo's work? "OMG dis wuz teh uber twist?" Shut up with the e-thug shit already.

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    If he was truly weaker than his superior, he would be dead by now. I can count on one hand the number of mangas that has had had someone uberly power beaten before his weaker comrades. And what? This shit has been hinted at Yammy being something more than fodder / stronger than he let on for quite some time now, and now that it's out in the open that he could very well be the strongest Espada reaks of shit? Because he's shown himself to be a incompetent fool and now he's revealing that he shouldn't be underestimated? Exactly how is this different from any foreshadowing Kubo has done in the past? Get the fuck atta here.

    Did you not pull this exact same shit when Code Geass turned into Code Trainwreck? Bitching up until the very end, then when opinion shifted that the ending was pretty damn good you hopped all over that? Like I said, you're either:

    A) The Neosutra equivalent of this Bleach thread or
    B) Hating it because it's the cool thing to do, but as soon as the majority opinion changes yours will too

    If being an e-thug is calling you out on your shit, which I can easily tell by your responses thus far, the hell yes

    http://forum.cheatengine.org/files/ethug_572.jpg

    E-THUG REPORTING IN

    and yes, Stark will whoop the holy Jesus shit out of that rosey bastard.

    edit: No, expecting something different from the storyteller time and time again and then being pissed off about it is silly imo. Naruto is no different. Naruto(the character) has been doing the same shit for years and people are going FUCK YEAH NARUTO. Ichigo has been too, and all you hear are crickets in the background. One of the differences between it and Bleach now is that Kishimoto hyped up Pein to an insane degree, all hype deserved. Kubo did no such thing with Ulquorria, and had the hype switched between the two characters it would be really easy to see who is hating on this for a legitimate reason or not.

    I still enjoy reading Bleach. Is it slow right now? Yeah, but what manga isn't? I hate the filler Kubo is just tossing in chapters to drag shit out more than you can ever possibly comprehend. I personally am looking forward to Aizen crushing Soul Society right where they stand, the Vaizards and their role in all of this (I really like the concept behind that group), Isshin, Uryu's father godhelpmeIcan'tthinkofhisname, and the eventual final battle between Aizen and Ichigo which will take place inside the King's Dimension, cause honestly I don't see anyone as more of a threat that Aizen.

    Honestly I can't tell if your saying you're looking forward to Stark vs Shushin is an attempt to safe face or not.

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    lol Thanks for proving my point troll. Can't even legitimately explain yourself.

    EDIT: zOMG I just realized Espada 7 died before Espada 8, this must mean 8 is stronger then 7!!! Your right, Yammy's rank all makes sense now...

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    I said hardly ever happens, not that it's outside the realm of possibility. But I am clearly wasting words on you, so:

    http://image.onemanga.com/009/mangas...1892/10-11.jpg

    What manga is this from? Looks really neat; I don't think I've seen this before?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcicus View Post
    Stuff. And lots of it.
    I applaud your post, and approve completely of it. I agree that people are way too fast to /bandwagon on the Bleach hating. I stopped reading Naruto a very long time ago, but from what I remember early on, and it probably still happens, how many times does the Fox Demon or whatever come out and save Naruto's ass as he's getting wupped or about to die. I remember a decent amount of times, and now there are hundreds of more chapters. because Naruto does it, it's okay? But for another character it isn't?

    This isn't directed at any one person in particular, just for a lot of the Bleach hating going on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boyiee View Post
    So, Hitsugaya was getting owned and Halbiel didn't release yet... But did anyone notice that it looked like a wave a water behind her? That makes her susceptible to him, since wherever there is water (ie atmosphere) he can turn it to ice... guess we'll see.
    It's Ukitake's release I'm betting. He likes Hitsugaya, and while I think he's ormally above the sneak attack, he would certainly pull one to protect a fellow captain.
    Also, Water+Woman in White= more fun for lonely weaboos. Not that Halibel leaves much to the imagination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcicus View Post
    What manga is this from? Looks really neat; I don't think I've seen this before?
    claymore, and it only comes out like once a month, the wait is pretty unbearable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odesseiron View Post
    I applaud your post, and approve completely of it. I agree that people are way too fast to /bandwagon on the Bleach hating. I stopped reading Naruto a very long time ago, but from what I remember early on, and it probably still happens, how many times does the Fox Demon or whatever come out and save Naruto's ass as he's getting wupped or about to die. I remember a decent amount of times, and now there are hundreds of more chapters. because Naruto does it, it's okay? But for another character it isn't?

    This isn't directed at any one person in particular, just for a lot of the Bleach hating going on.
    While there will always be bandwagoning on anything, what exactly is wrong with objectively criticizing a manga that everyone unanimously agrees has seen better days? Bandwagons can go both ways, seems some people want to applaud Bleach simply out of spite for those who don't. I've asked at least 3 times on this page alone what's there to approve about the latest 3-4 chapters but have yet to receive a response.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hirokei Kiaza View Post
    While there will always be bandwagoning on anything, what exactly is wrong with objectively criticizing a manga that everyone unanimously agrees has seen better days? Bandwagons can go both ways, seems some people want to applaud Bleach simply out of spite for those who don't. I've asked at least 3 times on this page alone what's there to approve about the latest 3-4 chapters but have yet to receive a response.
    I approve of the fact the fight with Ullquiora didn't take 20 chapters, but the way it was handled was pretty laughable at best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hirokei Kiaza View Post
    While there will always be bandwagoning on anything, what exactly is wrong with objectively criticizing a manga that everyone unanimously agrees has seen better days? Bandwagons can go both ways, seems some people want to applaud Bleach simply out of spite for those who don't. I've asked at least 3 times on this page alone what's there to approve about the latest 3-4 chapters but have yet to receive a response.
    Did I ever say "Wow these past 3 or 4 chapters of Bleach have been spectacular!!!" ? I think they are mediocre at best. Every manga has it's meh chapters. There have even been times in stuff like FMA or even the last few chapters of Berserk (Which I can't believe I am saying) and the like where I lost interest for a number of pages. It's far worse for something like that, because it's once a month or longer.

    There is a huge difference between objectively criticizing and bitching though. There's a fair amount of both going on. You don't like it, fine we get it. That's no reason to post week after week saying you're going to give it up altogether or whatever else people are saying. It floods the thread with useless posts. Offer some input, positive or negative and move on.

    I agree that the whole thing with Yammy (Yami, Yammi, however you spell it) is pretty dumb, and a lackluster "reveal."

    Again I'll say this, Bleach is not being marketed towards you, or probably most people on this forum. It's marketed to 12-14 something teens in Japan. I know the demographic reaches out a lot further than just that, but I really think people expect entirely too much from these kind of things. Anyway, I digress...

    Now I'm wondering why I just sat here for 5 minutes debating something on the internet when I could be doing something more constructive.

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    3-4 chapters is really being generous with bleach don't you think?

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