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    There is subtlety, and there is ripping off Yu Yu Hakusho

    And there is also horrible storytelling...like purposely leaving the big bad not showing at all in his entire evil master plan so he can just Xanatos Gambit up a Deus ex Machina later just like he did at the end of soul society.

    But hey, it's not like the storyline/fights have been recycled off previous chapters anyway, like a certain character going hollow against a rival anti hero, or an overpowered character releasing his limit to finish a fight, or a bunch of useless characters pulling off a random wins in a fight that nobody really gives a fuck about

    TLDR: In ur topic, hating ur series

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    Meh everything is recycled now.

    I just don't think QQing over something that takes you 5 minutes to read max a week is worth it.

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    Things like Kenpachi having a more powerful swing with two hands is not an inconsistency.

    Ichigo magically winning a fight he was being tossed around like a ragdoll in is an inconsistency because there was no buildup other than the mention of his 'possible' hidden power.

    Anyway, the quality of the plot has just been going downhill lately. I had high hopes after the Pendulum Arc but now there isn't really anything to look forward to but the captain battles. As I said before, if they're not any good I'll probably just go read something else. Five minutes is five minutes, but in my world that five minutes could be better spent elsewhere if I can't read a decent story.

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    you can't call ichigo winning a fight out of nowhere an "inconsistency".
    He's been winning that way since the beginning. It's the most consistent thing in the entire series.

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    What's about Kenpachi losing to Ichigo 3-4 power up ago? He doesnt seem to be the type who enjoy losing a fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Souj View Post
    you can't call ichigo winning a fight out of nowhere an "inconsistency".
    He's been winning that way since the beginning. It's the most consistent thing in the entire series.
    It is consistent as far as consistency goes, yes, but in terms of making sense to the story it is an inconsistency.

    Ichigo consistently wins, yes. Ichigo's powerups since the first one against Byakuya have all been inconsistent. He goes from tying Grimmjow (cough: Kenpachi) to trouncing him in one attack, to being beaten down in a weakened state by the 5th espada, to being completely dominated by the 4th espada (Byakuya) where he pulls an enormous powerup out of his ass in the form of a foreshadowed hollow form that not only trounced Ulquiorra's unreleased state, it dominated his second released state, which was already far more than bankai + vizard Ichigo could handle. Ichigo's hollow form completely obliterated Ulquiorra in every way (speed, strength, skill).

    That is inconsistent with the overall story, but consistent with how it has been told.

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    Remember in Dragon ball Z when Gohan got a massive power up like 900 times and then he finally learned to control his entire power? Same thing ichigo has been doing the entire series.

    Every single anime recycles everything about itself. If you're complaining about it then you've obviously not read enough manga/watched enough anime.

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    I watched DBZ though. Comparing Ichigo to Gohan would be to watch Frieza be a super-hyped villain as Gohan's hidden power is touted by Guru. The entire Frieza saga, you have Frieza defeating Piccolo, Frieza defeating Vegeta, Frieza defeating Goku, and suddenly Gohan is all that is left. The last three times Gohan fired a Masenko at Frieza he effortlessly deflects it away. In Frieza Stage 2 form.

    Then Frieza goes final stage, 10%. Then powers up to 100%. Gohan unleases his hidden power (but not super saiyan, although super saiyan has been hinted at) and scratches Frieza's face. Then Frieza gets angry. Then, Krillin makes it there just in time to see Gohan get blasted in the face and thrown away. Then he taunts Krillin and Krillin calls for help and suddenly Gohan gets up, goes SSj2, destroys Frieza with a single Kamehameha, and turns back into base Gohan while telling Frieza it's not a win because it wasn't him.

    That's what just happened in Bleach.

    Oh, and then Nappa appears out of nowhere and suddenly he's a SSj3.

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    Sounds pretty accurate to me.

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    The difference here is that no one cares about Ichigo or Ulquiora. We hated Cell, we liked Gohan.

    DBZ had 1 villain in over 100 chapters+, Bleach has... 15-20? DBZ had 7-8 good guys teaming up, Bleach has 20?

    Soul society arc was great because it was Ichigo against the world. It was epic. Right now, it's just a bunch of people fighting against each other for unimportant outcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kuronosan View Post
    I watched DBZ though. Comparing Ichigo to Gohan would be to watch Frieza be a super-hyped villain as Gohan's hidden power is touted by Guru. The entire Frieza saga, you have Frieza defeating Piccolo, Frieza defeating Vegeta, Frieza defeating Goku, and suddenly Gohan is all that is left. The last three times Gohan fired a Masenko at Frieza he effortlessly deflects it away. In Frieza Stage 2 form.

    Then Frieza goes final stage, 10%. Then powers up to 100%. Gohan unleases his hidden power (but not super saiyan, although super saiyan has been hinted at) and scratches Frieza's face. Then Frieza gets angry. Then, Krillin makes it there just in time to see Gohan get blasted in the face and thrown away. Then he taunts Krillin and Krillin calls for help and suddenly Gohan gets up, goes SSj2, destroys Frieza with a single Kamehameha, and turns back into base Gohan while telling Frieza it's not a win because it wasn't him.

    That's what just happened in Bleach.

    Oh, and then Nappa appears out of nowhere and suddenly he's a SSj3.
    lmao

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    Quote Originally Posted by kuronosan View Post
    I watched DBZ though. Comparing Ichigo to Gohan would be to watch Frieza be a super-hyped villain as Gohan's hidden power is touted by Guru. The entire Frieza saga, you have Frieza defeating Piccolo, Frieza defeating Vegeta, Frieza defeating Goku, and suddenly Gohan is all that is left. The last three times Gohan fired a Masenko at Frieza he effortlessly deflects it away. In Frieza Stage 2 form.

    Then Frieza goes final stage, 10%. Then powers up to 100%. Gohan unleases his hidden power (but not super saiyan, although super saiyan has been hinted at) and scratches Frieza's face. Then Frieza gets angry. Then, Krillin makes it there just in time to see Gohan get blasted in the face and thrown away. Then he taunts Krillin and Krillin calls for help and suddenly Gohan gets up, goes SSj2, destroys Frieza with a single Kamehameha, and turns back into base Gohan while telling Frieza it's not a win because it wasn't him.

    That's what just happened in Bleach.

    Oh, and then Nappa appears out of nowhere and suddenly he's a SSj3.
    I know this sux in Bleach, but this woulda been awesome for DBZ lol

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    But what would Nappa's hair progession be?

    SSJ1: Nothing still
    SSJ2: Messy hair
    SSJ3: Hair Band Hair

    ?

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    The sad truth is, if you switched DB's characters with Bleach's characters, Bleach would be excellent all the way up to the end of the Cell saga (bearing in mind the same theme was intact but it followed the plot of DB correctly).

    Oh, and don't forget that before Gohan reverts to his base form from SSj2, he accidentally punches a hole in Piccolo's chest when Piccolo stops him and says "That's enough Gohan, any more and you won't be a kid anymore".

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    rofl

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    Time to rename the thread "Trying not to hate Bleach?"

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    Oh god, that is what dragon ball kai should be.

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    ITT discussing other topics is more interesting than discussing Bleach
    Dragonball Bleach story above is awesome :D

    I really hope that wave behind Halibel was Ukitake (he has water right?) Shunsui/Stark and Ukitake are pretty much the only characters i care about these days. I have lost interest in all the others (although seeing Unohana and Urahara fight would be awesome)

    Ichigo is pissing me off. We always knew he was a bit of a 'tard but really, "cut off my arm and leg so we can fight equally"?Then Ulq just, turns to dust, or whatever? What the hell man, not cool.

    *has lots more to say on subject but whats the point in repeating whats been said over and over*

    also late reply is late, i finally went to read the past 6 weeks or so

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    If spoilers are real, everyone is getting pizowned...

    Spoiler: show
    Originally Posted by Nja @ 2ch
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    Posted by Bleach91 Translated by sheetz from ichixhime


    Since the title is in English, of course I forgot it!

    Title page is in the real world: Shunsui and Stark

    Barragan, Soi Fon and Oomaeda

    Hitsugaya and Halibel


    Kira: He looks up and mutters, "No way!"

    Stark exchanges attacks with Shunsui, but he can only get Shunsui's hat.

    Shunsui

    Stark: Your hat and clothes aren't too good at avoiding my attacks.

    Sweat and blood trickle out from where Shunsui's hat is cut.

    Scene changes

    Barragan: My or my, even with both of you you aren't able to move me.

    Soi Fon and Oomaeda are worn out..Barragan withdraws a tomahawk from his throne.

    Barragan: Now, which one of you?

    Oomaeda: Captain, isn't it about time?

    Soi Fon: What?

    Oomaeda: It's time for us to gather our strength and release the limit!

    Barragan: There's still more? This out to be interesting!

    Soi Fon: We've already released our limit...

    Oomaeda: (reaction)

    Scene changes

    Hitsugaya vs Halibel

    Halibel releases and turns into a shark lady.

    Hitsugaya: (

    Halibel fires a cero.

    Hitsugaya's cut in two from his right shoulder down to his legs.

    We see blood flying out.
    Halibel: It only took that for the shark to sink the ice dragon into the sea.

    The end

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    Yay Hitsugaya dead. Wait.... I could only wish. These "spoilers" sound okay if they're true.

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