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    Quote Originally Posted by toonces View Post
    I think soul society is a form of purgatory for ppl that arent hueco mundo bad, they have stated there is other planes of afterlife.
    I liked this idea, but HM and hollows don't fit in this theory very well.

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    Earth is earth, land of the living. (fact)

    Hell is where all the unredeemably evil people go (fact)

    Soul Society is Purgatory. Where those who arent bad enough to go to hell, or good enough for heaven. They earn their chance to get into heaven.

    The King's Dimension is heaven. You do enough good deeds or whatnot in soul society and you earn access when you die in SS.
    Let's say, in the pendulum arc, that girl captain who got promoted to Zero Squad. How about we replace "promoted" with "died" but she accomplished enough to get into heaven.

    Hueco Mundo, I guess would have to be where people who died in SS go, but still havn't gained any headway into heaven or hell. So they get sent there, and wait to getkilled again so they can try again. Though this would also have to apply to those who stay spirits too long in the real world



    It was explained way back in the beginning of bleach when the reason behind the quincy genocide were explained.
    what happens to shinigami was never explained. only hollows and humans. We can only assume they work the same way, but shinigami are obviously different than humans/hollows

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    hey atleast your garbage makes more sense than kubo :X

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    Quote Originally Posted by kuronosan View Post
    Well, to be fair, you probably wouldn't die even if you were killed.
    Laughed too hard at this

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    So Bleach is the shounen version of Dante's Inferno?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Souj View Post
    Warning: Incoming garbage that's not based on fact whatsoever!


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    Earth is earth, land of the living. (fact)

    Hell is where all the unredeemably evil people go (fact)

    Soul Society is Purgatory. Where those who arent bad enough to go to hell, or good enough for heaven. They earn their chance to get into heaven.

    The King's Dimension is heaven. You do enough good deeds or whatnot in soul society and you earn access when you die in SS.
    Let's say, in the pendulum arc, that girl captain who got promoted to Zero Squad. How about we replace "promoted" with "died" but she accomplished enough to get into heaven.

    Hueco Mundo, I guess would have to be where people who died in SS go, but still havn't gained any headway into heaven or hell. So they get sent there, and wait to getkilled again so they can try again. Though this would also have to apply to those who stay spirits too long in the real world
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    There's Heaven, Soul Society/Hueco Mundo, the mortal realm, and Hell.

    It might borrow from the Buddhist philosophy of reincarnation, your presence in each realm determined by the lesson you need to learn before reaching Heaven--the equivalent of Nirvana. Sentencing to Hell may or may not be permanent, maybe it just takes an extremely long time for evil to be burned away from a soul (but then, maybe not).

    Think of Hueco Mundo and Soul Society as two sides of the same coin, or Yin and Yang. Where Soul Society exists similar to the mortal world, Hueco Mundo is the dark reflection in the mirror, a feral opposite where tormented souls (since we've seen spiritual distress result in Hollows), remain in a bestial predator/prey state.

    Shinigami perhaps exist as the answer to Hueco Mundo, since Shinigami possess the ability to purify Hollows into Pluses (that name for normal souls that Kubo immediately discarded).

    But anyways, Hueco Mundo might have it's place as Yin to Soul Society's Yang, the mortal realm as a proverbial fulcrum between the two, with Heaven and Hell on the extreme ends of the spectrum.

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    Didn't Hueco Mundo have complex building structures even before aizen apeared and built Las Noches over it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonAngel View Post
    Didn't Hueco Mundohave complex building structures even before aizen apeared and built hueco mundo over it?
    Thanks for the headache...

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    So concerning the anime

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    When Muramasa didn't come out, why didn't Yama and Ginrei just kill Kouga's ass? Soul Society is mad retarded. And the time line still makes no sense to me. Yeah, it's just filler. But it's bugging me.

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    So that Kouga could come right back via reincarnation like what happened in The midget movie? He might have even come back as a hollow/arrancar. would you take the risk of fighting a hollow with Kouga's powers?
    Even if he didn't have any memories he'd prettymuch rape anyone that tried to fight him in seconds.
    Besides. Why take the chance when he might get Muramasa to help at the last second?
    He's also still highly trained at using his sharp pointy SWORD which can cut things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunrider View Post
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    There's Heaven, Soul Society/Hueco Mundo, the mortal realm, and Hell.

    It might borrow from the Buddhist philosophy of reincarnation, your presence in each realm determined by the lesson you need to learn before reaching Heaven--the equivalent of Nirvana. Sentencing to Hell may or may not be permanent, maybe it just takes an extremely long time for evil to be burned away from a soul (but then, maybe not).

    Think of Hueco Mundo and Soul Society as two sides of the same coin, or Yin and Yang. Where Soul Society exists similar to the mortal world, Hueco Mundo is the dark reflection in the mirror, a feral opposite where tormented souls (since we've seen spiritual distress result in Hollows), remain in a bestial predator/prey state.

    Shinigami perhaps exist as the answer to Hueco Mundo, since Shinigami possess the ability to purify Hollows into Pluses (that name for normal souls that Kubo immediately discarded).

    But anyways, Hueco Mundo might have it's place as Yin to Soul Society's Yang, the mortal realm as a proverbial fulcrum between the two, with Heaven and Hell on the extreme ends of the spectrum.
    so where do giants and guys with fox heads fit in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stilzkin View Post
    so where do giants and guys with fox heads fit in?
    Apparently all dogs don't go to heaven~

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    no manga this week? thought spoilers are usually posted by now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stilzkin View Post
    so where do giants and guys with fox heads fit in?
    Same place as that kid reincarnated as a canary at the start of the series.

    If you can return to the mortal realm in a different form, I imagine the some holds true for moving to the spirit realm.
    Quote Originally Posted by Khajit View Post
    So that Kouga could come right back via reincarnation like what happened in The midget movie? He might have even come back as a hollow/arrancar. would you take the risk of fighting a hollow with Kouga's powers?
    Even if he didn't have any memories he'd prettymuch rape anyone that tried to fight him in seconds.
    Besides. Why take the chance when he might get Muramasa to help at the last second?
    He's also still highly trained at using his sharp pointy SWORD which can cut things.
    There's no guarantee reincarnated souls retain their memories or specific abilities. In the case of Hollows, the sorrow and rage that creates them births them into a particularly feral, atavistic form.

    I imagine if Kouga were reborn as a Hollow, he wouldn't necessarily have his powers, but probably just a bonkers reiatsu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitarman View Post
    no manga this week? thought spoilers are usually posted by now.
    Sorry dude, Kubo's taking a Christmas vacation. I forgot to mention this before.

    Manga comes back next week, breaks for New Years, then comes back as normal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunrider View Post
    Same place as that kid reincarnated as a canary at the start of the series.

    If you can return to the mortal realm in a different form, I imagine the some holds true for moving to the spirit realm.

    There's no guarantee reincarnated souls retain their memories or specific abilities. In the case of Hollows, the sorrow and rage that creates them births them into a particularly feral, atavistic form.

    I imagine if Kouga were reborn as a Hollow, he wouldn't necessarily have his powers, but probably just a bonkers reiatsu.
    The kid wasn't technically reincarnated as a canary. His soul/ghost was forced into the body of one by the hollow.

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    Well, fuck me. Looks like Kubo's taking a break next week:

    Chapter 387: Ignited (spoilers):

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    Tousen dies and speaks his last words.
    Aizen gets cocky and taunts Shinji.
    Shinji, released, rushes Aizen and their swords clash.
    Aizen still acts confident that Shinji's going to do nothing until...
    Shinji slices Aizen's arm clean open.
    Shinji's release allows him to reverse movement, meaning the opponent instinctively blocks an attack to the left when in reality it's coming from the right. Or he might be standing right side up attacking the head when in reality his attack is upside down at the feet.
    Aizen underestimated Shinji, then flash steps behind him and cuts him open. He says that Shinji's shikai is just a child's game and that he won't fall for it again.
    Apparently while Tousen was asking Hisagi and Komamura for forgiveness, Aizen finishes him off, which pisses off Komamura.
    As Aizen turns around with a smug look on his a face, a garganta opens up and Ichigo emerges, with his sword at Aizen's neck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khajit View Post
    The kid wasn't technically reincarnated as a canary. His soul/ghost was forced into the body of one by the hollow.
    Ah, so that was it.

    In that case, Komamura's manifestation might be something along the lines of Hollowification. If a soul's state of distress can turn it into a hollow, then maybe a spirit's self-image can manifest in the form of an animal?

    Fuck it, Yoruichi turns into a male cat, Komamura has a fox's head... we'll just chalk it up to maigc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunrider View Post
    Ah, so that was it.

    In that case, Komamura's manifestation might be something along the lines of Hollowification. If a soul's state of distress can turn it into a hollow, then maybe a spirit's self-image can manifest in the form of an animal?

    Fuck it, Yoruichi turns into a male cat, Komamura has a fox's head... we'll just chalk it up to maigc.
    Or maybe the kid wasn't stuck in that body long enough to become some half canary freak?

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    YOU BLACK, MIDNIGHT, EVIL MOTHERFUCKERS!!! BLACK MAGIC, DARKNESS!!! YOU RAW, DARKNESS!!! YOU, FUCKING, DELIRIOUS MOTHERFUCKER!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kuronosan View Post
    Well, fuck me. Looks like Kubo's taking a break next week:

    Chapter 387: Ignited (spoilers):

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    Tousen dies and speaks his last words.
    Aizen gets cocky and taunts Shinji.
    Shinji, released, rushes Aizen and their swords clash.
    Aizen still acts confident that Shinji's going to do nothing until...
    Shinji slices Aizen's arm clean open.
    Shinji's release allows him to reverse movement, meaning the opponent instinctively blocks an attack to the left when in reality it's coming from the right. Or he might be standing right side up attacking the head when in reality his attack is upside down at the feet.
    Aizen underestimated Shinji, then flash steps behind him and cuts him open. He says that Shinji's shikai is just a child's game and that he won't fall for it again.
    Apparently while Tousen was asking Hisagi and Komamura for forgiveness, Aizen finishes him off, which pisses off Komamura.
    As Aizen turns around with a smug look on his a face, a garganta opens up and Ichigo emerges, with his sword at Aizen's neck.
    Oh snap. Shinji mah nigga again, first person to get at Aizen.

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