Bleach

[Correction]

Next chapter, Sasuke comes in from nowhere and there's a 350-chapter arc where every stab and slice is undone by 'haha it was an illusion.'

[Eaglestrike]

Does Ichigo know Aizen's actual plans? For the most part SS gives Ichigo shit and tells him little, they didn't want him going after Orihime and he went anyway. Ichigo is very much not a fan of SS. Aizen is against them and can be a dick, but does Ichigo personally know Aizen's goals? And even do we know if Aizen's goal is to erase all existence? I thought Aizen just wanted to be super king, which someone in Ichigo's position could think "that's not my business".

I mean yes, obviously Ichigo knows the "right" thing to do is to kill Aizen and he knows Aizen is a bad guy, but like Aizen said, does Ichigo personally have any reason to kill Aizen, that Ichigo is aware of?

[Max™]

Guys, I just realized... we've all seen Kyouka-Suigetsu released....


Oh shi-

[Khajit]

I'm semi impressed with hinamori managing to survive that long vs so many captains trying to gut the shit out of her.

[Drex]

Well let's see

He took over as leader of the hollow, those things that have been trying to kill his friends and family since the manga began

He tried to kill rukia after all the bullshit ichigo went through to rescue her (most of which was caused by him anyway, since he was the one who ordered her execution)

He kidnapped orihime and took her to hueco mundo

His minions fucked up ichigo's friends hardcore, including crushing uryuu's organs, totally wrecking chad, and impaling rukia on a spear

He wants to literally wipe the entire city ichigo was born and raised in off the map

And he's now right there in front of ichigo fucking up all the people that are trying to protect him and his town


Nope, no motive to fight back here! Go ahead Aizen, the city is yours~

[Marcicus]

Let's see...Aizen's current body count:

Komamura
Love
Rose
Lisa
Soi Fon
Shunsui
Shinji
Hitsugaya
Kira
Iba

All within 2-3 chapters?

[Eaglestrike]

Well let's see

He took over as leader of the hollow, those things that have been trying to kill his friends and family since the manga began

He tried to kill rukia after all the bullshit ichigo went through to rescue her (most of which was caused by him anyway, since he was the one who ordered her execution)

He kidnapped orihime and took her to hueco mundo

His minions fucked up ichigo's friends hardcore, including crushing uryuu's organs, totally wrecking chad, and impaling rukia on a spear

He wants to literally wipe the entire city ichigo was born and raised in off the map

And he's now right there in front of ichigo fucking up all the people that are trying to protect him and his town


Nope, no motive to fight back here! Go ahead Aizen, the city is yours~

Those things have also been explained as mindless, numerous times.

He didn't kill Rukia, he had the chance and all he did was take the Hyougaku out of her. He proved he was far more powerful than anyone there and left, not killing her. All the planning for the execution was a big middle finger to SS and a way for his plan to come to fruition.

He also let Orihime go and Orihime technically came "of her free will". Many of the arrancar expressed free will and not really following Aizen, so does Ichigo really have Aizen to blame for their actions? He fought the guys, they're dicks.

How much of that does Ichigo actually know? He knows people got hurt and he knows they didn't die, was he aware of all the details? What we see and what Ichigo sees are different things.

Was Ichigo informed that was Aizen's plan? Or is that something only SS knows Aizen wants to do? What if Ichigo just knows SS is fighting Aizen and is told he's the only one who can do it?

What has Aizen personally done to Ichigo for Ichigo be angry enough at him to want to kill him?

[Xno Kappa]

Aizen is at the root of everything Ichigo has suffered in this manga besides his initial encounter with Rukia. How is that not personal?

[Karbuncle]

you have to remember Ichigo is a moron Teenager

He's probably going to kill Aizen because he believes he kindnapped Orihime, and if i recall he know Aizen was the one behind Rukia's execution "orders".

On top of that basically everything bad that ever happened to him or his friends was a result from Aizens plans.

[Serra]

No, the plan was to use the execution to kill her, what he did was a backup. Also, after he had the hougyoku, he told Gin to kill Rukia right in front of Ichigo. Had Byakuya not shown up, he would have succeeded.

[Eaglestrike]

Aizen is at the root of everything Ichigo has suffered in this manga besides his initial encounter with Rukia. How is that not personal?

Ichigo could also be free of most of the situations he has experienced if not for SS being full of dickheads.

[ravbane]

Fuck that, this manga started, revolves around, is fueled by, and will likely end with Ichigo's massive unexplained reiatsu.

He only has himself to blame.

[Xno Kappa]

And every shitty little thing Soul Society did to Ichigo was due to Aizen's manipulation in the background. Again, there's plenty of reasons for Ichigo to take Aizen seriously. To say he doesn't is to believe Kubo's garbage attempt of creating some kind of apathetic turmoil with Ichigo towards Aizen.

[Eaglestrike]

And every shitty little thing Soul Society did to Ichigo was due to Aizen's manipulation in the background. Again, there's plenty of reasons for Ichigo to take Aizen seriously. To say he doesn't is to believe Kubo's garbage attempt of creating some kind of apathetic turmoil with Ichigo towards Aizen.

Ichigo has never been a smart kid...

[Serra]

If I go on a rampage in a town, and you have the possibility to stop me, I think there's something wrong if you shrug it off and say "oh, well no one I knew was affected."

[Eaglestrike]

If I go on a rampage in a town, and you have the possibility to stop me, I think there's something wrong if you shrug it off and say "oh, well no one I knew was affected."

Yeah, but I'm pretty sure the backstory for Ichigo was just wanting people to leave him the fuck alone, so I can see him being like that.

[Skotty]

There are so many flaws and holes with how this could have even happened that I'm not even going to list them all. I'm only going to mention 2 things that are bothering me the most.

Last issue Gin wasted half the time talking about how Aizen didn't need to rely on his shikai and then we see this.

Kubo needs to be consistent with Aizen's shikai ability. It has been written as the 5 senses and all senses before. Only problem with that is that sensing a person's reaitsu would be a sixth sense and would allow them to circumvent his shikai if it's only the 5 senses.

Also, for all the people defending Ichigo sitting on his ass and saying that this could have happened in a split second. Aizen taunted them the entire fight with his little speeches. Aizen's shikai controls people's senses, it does not control time or people's perceptions of time.

[Max™]

Pretty obvious that Ichgo's dad was exiled to the human world so he could breed with a human bitch and spit out a super saiyajin soul reaper hybrid kid for Aizen to push around with his super hollow/soul reaper hybrids trying to bring out his ONE TRUE POWAR to steal for himself with the Hogyoukuachoo-(bless you!)-I am the walrus-(koo-koo-kachoo)-doohickie.

Then he'll go back in time like Rant Casey and fuck his own mom, impregnating her with himself, then kill her and travel forwards to bang boobie-hime who is his own daughter/sister/stepmother-in-law to become a true Uchiha!

[Epysian]

So basically we have Omaeda, Yamamoto and Unohana left on the good guys side along with Ichigo?

I'm fine with Aizen owning Soi Fon and Hitsugaya, but Shinji and Shunsui got taken out that easily? This is just retarded. Once Aizen is defeated (likely by Ichigo of course) what can possibly pose a threat to him?

[Skotty]

How much of that does Ichigo actually know? He knows people got hurt and he knows they didn't die, was he aware of all the details? What we see and what Ichigo sees are different things.

He could sense when Rukia and Chad were close to dying and he was there at the fight with Nel.

Was Ichigo informed that was Aizen's plan? Or is that something only SS knows Aizen wants to do? What if Ichigo just knows SS is fighting Aizen and is told he's the only one who can do it?

Yama told the crew on Earth and Orihime about Aizen's plan. Orihime ran to where the vizards were and told Ichigo everything.