Bleach

**Ensam** · 2010-03-26 10:05

Originally Posted by Kaylia

It does fix many plot holes and questions, but holy shit, he just retconned the whole fucking things.

My favorite part is

Aizen: "You said I have to be lieing now because it contradicts what I said before. Well, guess what, I was lieing before! Now the plot can match up!"

p.s. remember when Kubo took a break a few weeks ago to do "research" and people joked that it was to re-read his manga? Well, it looks like that was 100% correct lol

**Koul** · 2010-03-26 10:11

he's already admitted he re-reads his manga to remind himself what he wrote.

**kuronosan** · 2010-03-26 10:29

Originally Posted by Koul

he's already admitted he re-reads his manga to remind himself what he wrote.

Well, any good writer does that. When you have a long-running story or series you have to research yourself to make sure you close any lines that might leave plotholes.

The problem is, Kubo ignores those lines. He doesn't make plotholes, he makes balloon animals.

My problem with that "Well, you say I'm lying now, what makes you think I wasn't lying then?"

Well Aizen, if you were lying then, what the fuck makes everyone think you aren't lying now? Come the fuck on, Kubo.

**Maguspk** · 2010-03-26 10:37

Last panel was fucking epic.

**Skotty** · 2010-03-26 15:08

Originally Posted by yayaok

daddy's here now mofuckers

fucking lol'd at the 'i knew you before you were even born' part, amazing speech

It was even better the first time. http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/315.02/18/

**Khajit** · 2010-03-26 16:28

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/316/01/
Read about 4 more pages from there and you'll notice that despite the arena being a fake there are hollows running about attacking little girls. Another Kubo error it seems.

**Eaglestrike** · 2010-03-26 16:30

Originally Posted by Khajit

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/316/01/
Read about 4 more pages from there and you'll notice that despite the arena being a fake there are hollows running about attacking little girls. Another Kubo error it seems.

Or the "fake" Karakura town is a mirror/hologram of the real one, thus still showing real things happening on it.

Or a Kubo error.

Who knows and honestly at this point...who cares?

**toonces** · 2010-03-26 19:53

kubo doesnt make mistakes!

<ignites the Eternalw/ehisname is light>

**Souj** · 2010-03-26 22:32

girl is dead obviously. dead girl from SS wanders into the town cause she's stupid.
and no, thats not sarcasm.
fuck stop fuckin complaining about everything people, jesus christ

**Sho** · 2010-03-27 00:24

It seems like the new fad to call Kubo out on trolling for everything. No biggie.

Secretly, you nuggas love reading Bleach to death.

**Xno Kappa** · 2010-03-27 04:02

The http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/397/ translation is a little easier to understand then mangastream. I can see how in this translation people would think Isshin is in cahoots with Aizen. Although I myself would think that is beyond retarded for Kubo to do.

**kuronosan** · 2010-03-27 08:09

You're talking about a guy who just had a character who revealed his entire plan 300 chapters ago admit the entire plan he revealed was a lie and he will now reveal his real plan (which, conveniently, is somehow not a lie, but Ichigo is too retarded to realize that).

Shit, I would have been like "Okay Aizen, let me get this straight. You're saying because I'm calling you a liar now means you weren't telling the truth then. So you're telling me if you were lying then, that you're not lying now? Kthx liar. GETSUGA TENSHOU. Baibai. World saved."

Come on. Ichigo can't be that fucking retarded.

**Drex** · 2010-03-27 08:55

whatever happened to the good old fashioned "i don't give a fuck about your plan, i'm just going to kill you"?

**Souj** · 2010-03-27 09:16

um.. why is everyone calling his whole plan a lie? the only lie he and Ichigo are talking about is the lie that Aizen said he found Rukia in the real world when in fact he always knew where he was.
I fail to see how this warrants everyone to bitch about everything. Though, everyone bitches about everything anyways, and will continue to do so even if there is no problems with it.
Pointing out something, sure that's fine, but almost the last 3 pages has been everyone saying the exact last thing that the person before had been saying.
I'm also a person who can't say I'm not guilty about bitching about a bunch of things, especially about this manga, however, come the fuck on. Shit is getting ridiculous.

Just thought of a great example that matches this perfectly. Spoiler if you havnt beating end boss of FF13

Spoiler: show

Retcon, plotholes...If you want to talk about those things, how about you complain about every comic book made ever. Not that I'm saying he retconned much of anything, (see what I said earlier), but honestly, for as long as he has been writing this, it is sometimes a good thing to retcon things to make the overall plot better. I for one make up and write stories all the time. They arent incredibly long, but even I go back and change things, now I can't say I retcon things, because I go back and change the story, but my works arent long continuous published works like a manga.

Honestly, I would prefer reading Eternalsnow posts rather than all the garbage that's being posted lately.

That being said, continue on with the bitching because I doubt this will deter anyone from doing so.

**Tajin** · 2010-03-27 12:22

B+ would get trolled again.

**Sho** · 2010-03-27 12:36

Like I've said, it's become a huge fad to say everything is pointless and trolling. I can understand how people said some of the Arrancar fights were 'trolling', but at least now Kubo is trying to connect the dots on what's been going on. And he finally brought Isshin to life, after saying it would be much later.

Damn.

LD · 2010-03-27 12:58

Originally Posted by Scythiroth

Aizen is Ichigo's mom.

Oh thank God I wasn't the only one who thought this.

**Eratosthenes** · 2010-03-27 14:25

Originally Posted by LD

Oh thank God I wasn't the only one who thought this.

Hey, now. I predicted that back on page 308 and nobody noticed.

**toonces** · 2010-03-27 15:26

Originally Posted by Sho

Like I've said, it's become a huge fad to say everything is pointless and trolling. I can understand how people said some of the Arrancar fights were 'trolling', but at least now Kubo is trying to connect the dots on what's been going on. And he finally brought Isshin to life, after saying it would be much later.

Damn.

forget it, was angry talk! sorry!

**Outlaw** · 2010-03-27 15:50

Thought I would get in on this finally cause I have been following the manga for a long time.

I'm hoping Kubo had this all planned out from early on and the next chapters will explain some things. I mean it does make sense in a way that Aizen would factor Ichigo into his plans. He was plotting his takeover of the Soul Society and the Visoreds and everything over 100 years ago now. Well before Ichigo was born. As for all this, "Aizen is trolling" and "Kubo has messed up the manga" people just need to claim down. I do admit the most recent chapters have been very annoying. Maybe all this has been a attempt to build up suspense I don't know..

I'm glad Ichigo's dad has finally offically joined the fight. I can't wait to see how Ichigo reacts to this! I had an idea for a long time that there was something about the Kurosaki family the story was not telling us. I won't even guess about it right now. There is one thing though..

In the manga or the anime, I can't remember which, there was a scene where Ichigo's father and Uyruu's father where talking and Isshin makes a remark about Ryuken's parenting or something and Ryuken responds,
"At least I'm not as bad as you." and Isshin says, "Your right......."
Does anyone remember this? It was very short but it stood out to me. Maybe it was a hint that Ichigo's life has been the path of a Shinigami/Hollow because of something he did wrong? That's just my wild crazy speculation away.

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