Bleach

[Drex]

we know grimmjow was an adjuchas when he became an arrancar, so it's safe to assume 7 and 8 were too. brainsoup was the lowest rank of hollow. i don't think the manga or anime ever specified what 1-5 were before gettin turned into arrancar, but if barrangan was king and starrk was stronger than him then i don't think it'd be much of a stretch to assume they were VL.

[kuronosan]

Aside from Aaroniero, the espada/arrancar were VLs. Unless the whole "regaining their human appearance" detail means shit for people hoping for a stronger baddie. Hell, last week AS did the little Grimmjow flashback where they babbled about Hollow evolution, and it came up where if Grimmy ate part of Shawlong and the other flunkies that died in the first KT raid, they'd never be able to become VLs, but would still serve Grim. Of course, Aizen comes along and perverts their evolution, granting them their non-released states and VL status.

No.

The whole "stronger than a captain" line was based on SS's own lack of information (they were rare up until then), and might very well be true if the hollows were left to evolve naturally. Barragan probably could've twinked most of the captains, but that's only because his power was hax. Same for Stark. Sadly, we never really got to know the full scope of Halibel's abilities due to Aizen and the Hitsugaya fandom lending strength/plotkai.

No.

Probably easier to think of arrancar as VLs Aizen made, while VLs themselves existed beforehand as evidenced by Barragan and Stark. Ulq's "segundo" form or whatever is probably a bit of a red herring, though understandably some comparison could be made to shikai/bankai with it. However, since #1-3 never once hinted at it (and this is a fucking Shonen, so they would), I'd say it's just one of Ulq's quirks.

No.

Far as enemies go, I can't say I've enjoyed the Espada. Then again, this gripe might be more a result of a giant-cast-itis and the watering down of personas and histories such an ailment brings. Really hoping Aizen falls at the closure of this Arc (and I guess Gin with him), and in turn we're given someone better fleshed if Hell enters the picture.

Only part I agree with, but Aizen most likely won't die. There isn't really another villain they've built up.

Then again, the end result of all of this could fuck up the living world and prompt a sort of reboot of juggling reality with the hollow fighting and such. The individual situations may not be a daunting threat for Ichigo in this environment, but as one guy, he can't realistically save everybody. Also gives a bit of merit to Urahara taking time to train Tatsuki and the others between the time Ichigo left for HM and his arrival against Aizen here. Focus shifts to them for a bit, and maybe then wind up fighting Ichigo's wtfhollow later on. Maybe that's the plot of the next movie, though. :/

No.

[Kurp]

Really? When I went to rewatch bleach I had to skip from like episode 3 until Rukia was forced to return because I realized they served absolutely zero purpose to the plot. And even worse, they're actually not worthless.. they horrible. When you rewatch the early episodes after being far in already you realize how shit doesn't add up correctly.

Yeah, I'm happy that we've come so far in the series that things "add up correctly" now. Fuck those first few arcs.

[orson]

I have to say there is no way of knowing if Vasto Lordes introduced simply because there were never ever any mentioned. The minute someone in the manga says that an espada was one I'll buy it but as it stands there is no evidence to say that they have been introduced. Odds are good though that Kubo basically forgot that shit because he seems to have just spent too much time focused on shitty lieutenant fights.

Also I'm just curious why the the fuck would Aizen spew all this bullshit about Orihime having the power of the gods and being so interested in that shit if he knew from basically day one of Ichigo getting his powers that the hogo. At this point I've given up on continuity and any other semblance of a cohesive plot.

P.S. Gin and Aizen are dead the bodies in HM were theirs because initially. Gin and Aizen were killed by Vasto Lordes in HM and replaced. That's why everyone was so confused by Aizen's shikai being different A.K.A. why no one knew it was an illusion.

[Zilong]

I'd just chalk it as a complete failure into placing importance in Orihime and trying for some romantic development on the series when he can't even write a coherent plot to begin with.

Really, the only way you can get romantic development in the series nowadays is through doujin.

[Eaglestrike]

Nothing says romantic development like Tatsuki with a giant cock ramming it into Orihime.

[Max™]

Fuck, I'm gonna wake everyone up from laughing at that.

[Cephius]

Sorry that I'm jumping into this thread at the 334th page without having read anything. I've recently gotten into bleach (I actually just caught up on the anime over the weekend) and was wondering if people in this thread discuss the anime + manga, either one, or both?

Basically, if I only watch the anime and start reading this thread, am I going to find major spoilers?

[Max™]

Yes, yes you will, especially the part about Tatsuki ramming Orihime.

[Maguspk]

Sorry that I'm jumping into this thread at the 334th page without having read anything. I've recently gotten into bleach (I actually just caught up on the anime over the weekend) and was wondering if people in this thread discuss the anime + manga, either one, or both?

Basically, if I only watch the anime and start reading this thread, am I going to find major spoilers?

Yes you will find lots of spoilers eventually. I recommend just reading the manga from wherever you are in the anime.

[Viserdes]

From what ive seen its mostly manga discussion, since the anime is still on dull filler i believe.

[Maguspk]

From what ive seen its mostly manga discussion, since the anime is still on dull filler i believe.

Anime is back on track, currently Ichigo v Ulquiorra

[Cephius]

thanks~

I liked the Zanpakutou filler actually

[Rai]

Anime is back on track, currently some random filler'ish stuff about the lessers (Sado & Renji) fighting boring fights no one really cares about, let alone wants to see

Had to fix that, sorry.

[AoE]

The way the current arc has dragged on, you might as well catch up with the manga, Cephius. The only thing really worth watching in anime form at this point is the fights.

[Souj]

The only thing really worth watching in anime form at this point is the fights.

Careful with your wording. You make it sound like there was at least some kind of story driving the plot.

[Guitarman]

http://www.animecrazy.net/bleach-episode-268/130749

[Odesseiron]

I laughed way too hard at that Arrancar Encyclopedia at the end. Was really funny. At least the anime is pretty much full on. Adding in some scenes to make up time, but that's fine. I don't even remember what scenes are in the manga or not anymore.

[BadKarma]

Uryuu always looks like such a badass in the Anime....


why does he have to be such a bitch?

[Olo401]

From what ive seen its mostly manga discussion, since the anime is still on dull filler i believe.

They got to the end of Ichigo vs. Greenjau on AS then restarted it from Episode 1.

Pissed me off so hard I decided to finally start downloading the newer episodes.... and now of course Demonoid goes down..