Bleach

**DrClout** · 2011-12-14 12:39

Well, my opinion anyway, it's fairly hit. Some arcs took longer to get to the point than the others but it's all the same. This is a good arc with great potential but it'd be a shame for it to end so suddenly. At least for now, it feels that after this flashback it'll be "on to the next one".

**Deadgye** · 2011-12-14 13:26

In my opinion, it's fairly train wreck. I only read it because I've been doing it for so long, it usually gives me lulz, and it releases the same time naruto does. Some stuff he does is good, but overall it's just.. not well thought out. He's great at coming up with ideas, but his execution and closing is always lacking.

**vadre** · 2011-12-14 13:29

Getting a disturbing feeling that this is going to go all Sasuke-Itachi on us. Ichigo (sasuke) kills Ginjo (itachi) to subsequently be told that despite ginjo's (itachi's) previous murderous behaviour, he's actually been doing it for the right reasons, resulting in Ichigo (sasuke) going mad at the establishment and attempting to take down the soul king (hokages) who are instigating it all or whatever.

It was pretty dubious then because of the fact that if he'd just been TOLD by someone it would've been fine, and similarly here if the fullbringers hadn't been so damn mysterious about the whole thing they might not have just lost 2-3 of their membership.

Even so, I've enjoyed this arc the most in a long while for bleach despite the shakey last few chapters so I'll keep reading.

Originally Posted by Deadgye

In my opinion, it's fairly train wreck. I only read it because I've been doing it for so long, it usually gives me lulz, and it releases the same time naruto does. Some stuff he does is good, but overall it's just.. not well thought out. He's great at coming up with ideas, but his execution and closing is always lacking.

I do agree with this though, he's so bad with introducing a billion new characters and then not fleshing them out properly/at all/letting them totally disappear with no explanation (where are the vizards?! don't they live in this town too? Couldn't they have just stepped in and gutted Tsukishima before all this happened?)

**Sunrider** · 2011-12-14 13:43

Originally Posted by vadre

I do agree with this though, he's so bad with introducing a billion new characters and then not fleshing them out properly/at all/letting them totally disappear with no explanation (where are the vizards?! don't they live in this town too? Couldn't they have just stepped in and gutted Tsukishima before all this happened?)

Kubo is horrible at tying up loose ends, which is especially sad when he introduces more secondary characters than a Star Wars movie.

**Ragnus** · 2011-12-14 13:46

How the fuck Tsuki is stil alive? He took a Buster Wolf full of little blades straight through the heart...

**Sho** · 2011-12-14 14:01

Originally Posted by Sunrider

Kubo is horrible at tying up loose ends, which is especially sad when he introduces more secondary characters than a Star Wars movie.

Definitely agree with this. That might be just how it is -- with so many secondary characters, many simply won't get loose ends tied up unless they are exceptionally popular. Even then, that also might not be true, in the case of characters like Grimmjow.

**Xno Kappa** · 2011-12-14 15:05

Problem with Kubo is that he doesn't know how to properly incorporate all the info into the manga itself and leaves it up to his data-books to explain certain things, i.e. Ulquiorra's background, Grimmjow being dead, and Halibel chilling in Hueco Muendo.

**The Blackrose** · 2011-12-14 15:11

Originally Posted by Ragnus

How the fuck Tsuki is stil alive? He took a Buster Wolf full of little blades straight through the heart...

I guess he *glasses* was ok.

**Cleverness** · 2011-12-14 15:16

Tsuki being alive is some utter bullshit.

Originally Posted by The Blackrose

I guess he *glasses* was ok.

**Ragnus** · 2011-12-14 15:23

Originally Posted by The Blackrose

I guess he *glasses* was ok.

Oh God. LOL

**Xno Kappa** · 2011-12-14 16:08

Originally Posted by Cleverness

Tsuki being alive is some utter bullshit.

Byakuya's damage was slightly nerfed for the console release.

**vadre** · 2011-12-14 16:29

Pretty confident I could survive a shotgun-blast to the chest easily, especially if it means getting up and loling at my mentor being downed by a couple of slashes in the next room.

Who wouldn't?

**kuronosan** · 2011-12-15 03:39

Wait, so Barragan can toss an axe while disintegrating, Ichigo can get 20 holes blown in him and get healed right back up, but 3 minutes ago Byakuya punches a hole through Tsuki's chest, Ginjo says he'll be dead soon, and him showing up while he's dying is unbelievable?

Man. This is so fucking backwards.

**Scythiroth** · 2011-12-15 04:58

Obviously Tsuki cut himself and removed the memory from his body that he was stabbed.

**orson** · 2011-12-15 05:06

Originally Posted by kuronosan

Wait, so Barragan can toss an axe while disintegrating, Ichigo can get 20 holes blown in him and get healed right back up, but 3 minutes ago Byakuya punches a hole through Tsuki's chest, Ginjo says he'll be dead soon, and him showing up while he's dying is unbelievable?

Man. This is so fucking backwards.

The dude is a straight up 100% human with a human body all those other examples are of spirit world characters. Obviously barely anyone dies in Bleach but still this makes the least sense out of a long line of "how the hell is he still alive."

**Sunrider** · 2011-12-15 06:55

Originally Posted by Scythiroth

Obviously Tsuki cut himself and removed the memory from his body that he was stabbed.

You know, I would readily accept that excuse.

**Ragnus** · 2011-12-15 07:15

Obviously Tsuki cut himself and removed the memory from his body that he was stabbed.

Well played...

**Uzor** · 2011-12-15 10:02

Originally Posted by DrClout

They weren't there to kill anyone but Ginjo and see Ichigo's decision to the news of his purpose and monitor. Even if Byuakua enjoyed the battle, he didn't have a reason to kill him. He isn't like Ken-chan and just doesn't give a fuck.

Byuakua said he's glad he was Tsukushima's opponent and that he would kill him. He even punched a hole through his chest, and now he's up and running like it never even happened? Hell, I didn't even see a hole in his chest.

Guess the bitch must have healer him off-screen... "Oh no, I know you're the bad guy and that you manipulated us all, but I just can't leave you here dead. Here, let me heal you!"

**Odin'sLaw** · 2011-12-15 12:47

Originally Posted by Uzor

Byuakua said he's glad he was Tsukushima's opponent and that he would kill him. He even punched a hole through his chest, and now he's up and running like it never even happened? Hell, I didn't even see a hole in his chest.

Guess the bitch must have healer him off-screen... "Oh no, I know you're the bad guy and that you manipulated us all, but I just can't leave you here dead. Here, let me heal you!"

actually isn't orihime still under his "control"? that would make perfect sense.....

**Ragnus** · 2011-12-15 12:52

They really have to get rid of her. The only thing she had going for her was being the T&A character. She even sucks as a love interest for Ichigo.

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