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    I've Sherlock Holmes'd my entire post.

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    The captains are probably going to get thier bankai's back via the reiatsu that they gave ichigo in the previous arc.

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    If the novel is any indication, the powerlevels are about to get CRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAZZZZZZYYYYYYY in this arc

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    Of note from the novel:

    - The kenpachi that was before Zaraki's predecessor had a bankai that apparently would have killed the entire population of the seireitei, including all of the other captains if he used it, but Zaraki's predecessor still one-shotted him in single combat

    - Zaraki's predecessor had powers over atmospheric control, which apparently made him nigh-omniscient, could freely manipulate all oxygen to mimic his voice, and hand gestures, which allowed him to cast multiple instances of mid-90s level kido from all directions at once, as much as his reiatsu allowed. Aizen thought he was immune to Kyouka Suigetsu because of all of this. He was still completely petrified of the Zero Squad and thought they would annihilate him. Zaraki killed him.

    - Zaraki himself had a power that was guessed by the novel's author, and confirmed by Kubo to be correct. Zaraki's power is transcendence. He doesn't have a ceiling for his power, he just lowers it to right around his opponent's level to give them a good fight. When he had to fight the previous Kenpachi their power got so high that it went several magnitudes over dimensional transcendence Aizen/Ichigo were at the time. Aizen was completely aware of this and was terrified of having to fight him, which is why it was orchestrated for him to go to Hueco Mundo.

    - Szayel Aporro Granz (8th espada) had an assistant that he modified to have a power that can copy any attack regardless of reiatsu differences, at full power. This assistant uses it to copy Mugetsu from Final Getsuga Ichigo and Ryuujin Jakka at full power, but Zaraki, again, wins by going over dimensional boundaries

    And on top of all of this, Kubo agrees that basically all of it is realistic and the powerlevels aren't out of line with the real story

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    What novel is this? Sounds like a crazy fan-fic, but most manga can be considered a "reined-in" fan-fic.

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    lol, kenpachi ftw

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    I could write a story that says Shunsui is gay and Ukitake used to be his lover and Kubo would nod his head and go "Yes, that is canon".

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    One interesting thing of note that might of been forgotten by most; The order to invade Soul Society for the Vandenreich came because Ichigo was held up in Hueco Mundo. They considered him one of the five special war potentials they apparently feared.

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    Which perhaps leave Kenpachi, Yamamoto, and maybe Unohana. Fifth being Urahara, maybe? Hmm, all of which we need to see bankai from, I think.

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    Doubt they would want to piss off Yamamoto if they were concerned about him.

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    Kind of a given they'd have to face him if they planned to wipe out Soul Society, though.

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    I did not expect Kirge (the Quincy) to still be alive.. damn.. I mean damn. Guy is a BOSS. Urahara even thought he killed him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outlaw View Post
    I did not expect Kirge (the Quincy) to still be alive.. damn.. I mean damn. Guy is a BOSS. Urahara even thought he killed him.
    actually, Urahara said that he just thought that he wouldn't be able to move.

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    He asked Orihime and Chad to "check the corpse" for that bankai stealing thing. So I assumed he thought he was dead. Could be a translation error. Idk.

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    Urahara said he was careless to have thought he wouldn't be able to move. Probably forgot Quincy's can use that puppet technique to continue fighting way past their limits. Ishida used it against Mayuri too, said something to the effect that it allows Quincy's to fight until they're destroyed into dust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tymon View Post
    If the novel is any indication, the powerlevels are about to get CRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAZZZZZZYYYYYYY in this arc

    Spoiler: show
    Of note from the novel:

    - The kenpachi that was before Zaraki's predecessor had a bankai that apparently would have killed the entire population of the seireitei, including all of the other captains if he used it, but Zaraki's predecessor still one-shotted him in single combat

    - Zaraki's predecessor had powers over atmospheric control, which apparently made him nigh-omniscient, could freely manipulate all oxygen to mimic his voice, and hand gestures, which allowed him to cast multiple instances of mid-90s level kido from all directions at once, as much as his reiatsu allowed. Aizen thought he was immune to Kyouka Suigetsu because of all of this. He was still completely petrified of the Zero Squad and thought they would annihilate him. Zaraki killed him.

    - Zaraki himself had a power that was guessed by the novel's author, and confirmed by Kubo to be correct. Zaraki's power is transcendence. He doesn't have a ceiling for his power, he just lowers it to right around his opponent's level to give them a good fight. When he had to fight the previous Kenpachi their power got so high that it went several magnitudes over dimensional transcendence Aizen/Ichigo were at the time. Aizen was completely aware of this and was terrified of having to fight him, which is why it was orchestrated for him to go to Hueco Mundo.

    - Szayel Aporro Granz (8th espada) had an assistant that he modified to have a power that can copy any attack regardless of reiatsu differences, at full power. This assistant uses it to copy Mugetsu from Final Getsuga Ichigo and Ryuujin Jakka at full power, but Zaraki, again, wins by going over dimensional boundaries

    And on top of all of this, Kubo agrees that basically all of it is realistic and the powerlevels aren't out of line with the real story
    So Zaraki-1 and Zaraki were several magnitudes above hax Aizen and super Ichigo, and were still under Zero Squad.

    So much for Yamamoto's "no Shinigami stronger than I in the past blah blah years has been born"

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    Then again, that was only a fan-novel. From what I remember, he said that "the writer did a good job figuring out Kenpachi's power" and "why he was hiding it" - he didn't say that the novel was 100% correct. Where's the quote about him saying it's 100% correct?

    Fact of the matter is, even if he agrees that it's realistic, doesn't mean it's 100% correct and that the two Kenpachi's are stronger than Yamamato or Zero Squad.

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    It's not a typical fan novel- it's published by the publisher of SJ, and it's been advertised in SJ as well, so it has official backing. It's canon status hasn't been verified though, with only a single (translated) comment from Kubo alluding to Kenpachi being stronger then we've been lead to believe so far. For the time being, I'm sticking with what Kubo actually puts down on paper himself.

    Back to the manga: 3 things could happen now, i) Urahara fights Kirge- he has the Bankai stealing medal so he can fight without fear of Bankai theft and we'll actually get to see Benihime in action, ii) Grimm-jeta arrives to put down the injured Quincy, or iii) Nel evolves into Airhead-Nel again and does whatever it is that sexy centaurs do.

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    I'm going by whatever comes out in the manga. Even Kubo's own databooks had bits that were famously mistranslated to mean something completely different. Plus that Kenpachi information just sounds straight up silly as shit.

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    SHIROSAKI, PLEASEEEE

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    Maybe Grimmjow?

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