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    DOWN GOES UNOHANA DOWN GOES UNOHANA

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    This chapter is mindfucking me so hard with character development holy shit

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    And there goes the zombie theories (This makes more sense anyways). She must be a bitchin' healer to revive him midfight from such critical conditions, but I wonder where this speed was when she had to heal Ichigo.

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    Kenpachi.

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    It looks like Kubo just covered the supposed plothole with Kenpachi getting beat by Shikai Ichigo and then him beating Nnoitra.

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    You can't even call those fights plotholes, mang.

    Kubo always left those fights ambiguous. Fight vs Ichigo was definitely questionable. I remember back during Ichigo's victory and Nnoitra's defeat people on chat forums would question if they were a "real" victories. Only the fight vs Royd LLyod was an "oh shit, Kenpachi got raped" moment.

    And this chapter single handedly pronounced Kenpachi as the "strongest" shinigami in soul society. Based Kenpachi too based.

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    I always considered the fight with Ichigo to be explainable anyway.

    Zangetsu gave him ALL of his power for one attack. Every last little fuckin' bit of it. That's a lot of power. Ichigo took until right around FGT to completely get access to all of that at will. There's no surprise to me at all that he was able to KO Kenpachi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tymon View Post
    I always considered the fight with Ichigo to be explainable anyway.

    Zangetsu gave him ALL of his power for one attack. Every last little fuckin' bit of it. That's a lot of power. Ichigo took until right around FGT to completely get access to all of that at will. There's no surprise to me at all that he was able to KO Kenpachi.
    FGT was his combined Shinigami and Horrow power. His full Zangetsu power may as well be compared to Bankai. That said, this chapter clearly makes the any FGT explanation look lame anyways.

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    The entire point of this training is to unshackle Kenpachi piece-by-piece. If Unohana is able to unshackle any of that, then Kenpachi's previous state much be "less" (Ambiguous as to what is being unshackled other than generic power) than Unohana's for this to work. As such, previous opponents must be "less" than Unohana. If we were to assume Ichigo used FGT against Kenpachi, then either Unohana is greater than FGT by a significant margin or the "unshackled" effect wears off. The latter would make training pointless. The former is feasible, but she isn't at full power and already defeating him multiple times. Considering Ichigo's full power mode gave, what Kenpachi was deem, minor pain, that would require Unohana to be significantly more powerful than FGT Ichigo. I highly doubt that.

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    The reality is that power levels are ALL kinds of fucked up in this series.

    We have no idea how to classify people at this point because of the whole "transcendent being" nonsense with Aizen and FGT Ichigo.

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    If we want a new plot hole to consider, where'd a poor kid on the outskirts of Rukongai get a zanpakuto? "Oh, he just killed some shinigami grunt..."

    His "shackles" being some sub-conscious urge to hold himself back to find a good fight isn't all that surprising. However, I don't think removing those really helps his one dimensionality as a character. I'd honestly rather see him humbled by Unohana kicking his ass and seek to learn new techniques instead of riding on bloodlust.

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    Derble~

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    Quote Originally Posted by finitek View Post
    All of this speculation is silly.
    People thinking that there is going to be some lame ass DBZ combo of Ken and Yach... Kenpachi has limitless power, no one has ever pushed him to his limits. Why does everyone think he needs BanKai to win?
    Ichigo needing his hollow powers to defeat the Espada I can understand, but no one can really speculate on Kenpachi's true level of power. I'm sure everyone is going to be surprised and disappointed by the way this fight really plays out. The fact that on average Kubo only has to churn out 15-19 pages a week slows things down. Oh well, at least things move faster than American comics on the monthly release schedule.

    Just sit back relax and watch what happens instead of projecting shitty ideas onto a decent storyline.

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    Quoted for motherfucking truth.

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    I haven't had this much fun reading bleach in a long time. Unshackled zaraki is going to be completely fucking scary.


    Quote Originally Posted by arus2001 View Post
    If we want a new plot hole to consider, where'd a poor kid on the outskirts of Rukongai get a zanpakuto? "Oh, he just killed some shinigami grunt..."

    His "shackles" being some sub-conscious urge to hold himself back to find a good fight isn't all that surprising. However, I don't think removing those really helps his one dimensionality as a character. I'd honestly rather see him humbled by Unohana kicking his ass and seek to learn new techniques instead of riding on bloodlust.
    In this case, I wonder if him being one-dimensional is really all that bad. Part of the charm of watching zaraki do his thing is the fact that he is just this all-consuming mass of power. When he walks on page, you know shit is going to go down. There's plenty of characters with more depth to them, zaraki being pretty one-dimentional is kind of a nice change imo.

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    Kenpachi.

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    Was dat Nigga from childhood

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    It also confuses me a bit for implying that when Ichigo near-killed him he was at quite a low level, sort of makes you wonder why he was a captain at that point if he was so severely limiting himself.

    W/e, chapter was neat

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    Cause Nigga is so beastly that even while limiting himself he is better then 95% of Soul Society.

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    Imagine that, Kenpachi as a kid was stronger than Unohana.

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    MY MOTHER FUCKING NIGGA

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