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    http://www.mangahere.com/manga/bleac...c315.1/15.html

    No one from SS has still seen Isshin yet have they?

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    Huh, don't know how I missed that lol. Isshin does say "these guys don't want to teach this technique" thou, so I guess they're similar enough that they even both have final getsuga in any case.

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    Yes, he did mention the name Engetsu.

    Also, love the "wizard did it" explanation for Kenny.

    EVEN BLOODTHIRSTY MANIACS WHO RANDOMLY FIND A SWORD AND THEN ENJOY USING IT CAN FIND IT!
    (now, returning to Ichigo)

    Also, there was a 10th division captain during the Pendulum arc. This is after that but before the SS invasion. You can tell because they're already looking for Shinji and the other vizards (plus they're all captains).

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    I suppose that's a "wizard did it" is an explanation for it. I just took it as Kenpachi took the swords of a guy he just killed with a piece of metal he sharpened only using hate and bloodlust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kuronosan View Post

    Also, there was a 10th division captain during the Pendulum arc. This is after that but before the SS invasion. You can tell because they're already looking for Shinji and the other vizards (plus they're all captains).
    this is before the pendulum arc. Aizen's mentioning Shinji and co. as threats that need to be removed.
    as I posted earlier;

    http://www.mangahere.com/manga/bleac...c315.1/15.html
    I'm assuming they're talking about Isshin there.

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    Damn, about time they did the Isshin Shiba thing. Also confirms him as 10th Division captain, something a ton of us knew for over 5 years now, lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Souj View Post
    http://www.mangahere.com/manga/bleac...c315.1/15.html

    No one from SS has still seen Isshin yet have they?
    Rangiku went to Orihime's house when they first went to Kakura Town. Toshiro probably spoke with him around that time, offscreen.

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    The only time they may have seen him was during the fight with Aizen in Karakura town, but almost everyone seemed to have been taken out at that point -- if I remember, only Urahara and Yoruichi were still upright at that point. Rangiku might have seen him when they went to the real town though..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Souj View Post
    this is before the pendulum arc. Aizen's mentioning Shinji and co. as threats that need to be removed.
    as I posted earlier;

    http://www.mangahere.com/manga/bleac...c315.1/15.html
    I'm assuming they're talking about Isshin there.
    No. Look at it again, none of them were captains during the pendulum arc. They were all seated officers.

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    none of who were captains? Shinji and Love and Kensai and afro dude were captains during the pendulum arc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Souj View Post
    this is before the pendulum arc. Aizen's mentioning Shinji and co. as threats that need to be removed.
    as I posted earlier;

    http://www.mangahere.com/manga/bleac...c315.1/15.html
    I'm assuming they're talking about Isshin there.
    They can't be talking about Isshin, because they (Aizen, Gin, Tousen) were captains when they started looking for Shinji Hirako. If Kubo is to be believed this should be the order of timelines:


    Original 10th Division Captain dies

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    Kenpachi wins in a battle with Unohana / Finds and names Yachiru after Unohana

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    Lieutenant Aizen creates the original Hōgyoku / Begins his Hollowfication schemes/experiments with Lieutenant Gin (9-10 years before next event below)

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    Shunsui explains how he, old man Yama, Uchitake, and Unohana are what's left of the original Gotei 13 / Hikifune is promoted to Royal Guard / Urahara is promoted to 12th Division

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    Urahara studies Hollowfication & Reverse Hollowfication methods and subsequently creates the his version of the Hōgyoku

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    Tousen joins up with Aizen and Gin, and continue Hollowfication experiments with them.

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    Shinji Hirako and his crew (Rose, Love, Kensei, others) are Hollowfied by Lieutenant Aizen

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    Urahara & Tessai captured the Hollowfied 8 captains and lieutenants, and transport them to safety / Urahara fails at De-Hollowfication with his Hōgyoku

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    Urahara & Tessai are arrested, then subsequently are freed by Yoruichi and then escape to the Real World with Hollowfied 8

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    [Our] Kenpachi kills the former Kenpachi and is promoted (later on in the same day as Shinji & crew being banished).

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    Aizen, Gin, and Tousen are all promoted to captain in Shinji, Rose, and Kensei's place. Komamura is promoted to replace Love.

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    Isshin Shiba is promoted to 10th Division

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    Rangiku & Toshiro works their way up in the ranks to become Isshin Shiba's Lieutenant & 3rd Seat / Toshiro learns Bankai

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    Isshin Shiba investigates the new disappearance of souls / Aizen begins his search for Shinji's gang in the real world

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    Isshin Shiba meets Masaki Kurosaki, Ryūken Ishida (and his father), Urahara, Yourichi & Tessai during his search

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    Unknown events happen to Isshin; he gets a Gigai from Urahara to hide his reiatsu and changes his last name to Kurosaki, and leaves Gotei 13

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    Captain Aizen pinpoints Isshin's whereabouts while looking for Shinji & co, and begins tracking him

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    Ichigo is born / Aizen begins watching Ichigo since his birth / Juha Bach watches both Ichigo & Aizen as well as Kenpachi for his upcoming war

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    Urahara perfects Hollowfication & De-Hollowfication with his Hōgyoku (Aizen watches this)

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    Aizen set his scheme in motion to make Central 46 send Rukia to Kakura Town

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    Rukia arrives to watch over Kakura Town / Urahara seals his Hōgyoku into Rukia's Gigai, fearful of Aizen (Aizen saw it coming regardless, as per plan)

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    Events of Bleach begin

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    Should look like that in Kubo's crazy mind. Kenpachi added in the timeline because he's fucking Kenpachi.

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    ah, didn't know you were referring to Gin, Tousen, Aizen being captains. So yeah, after pendulum arc.

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    Corrected the timeline. Woop

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    Aizen, Gin, and Tousen.

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    Didn't Urahara create the hogohogo?

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    Aizen created the first one, and failed. Urahara then made his own, which Aizen stole and fed/merged it with the one he created. Or something like that...

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    Thanks for the timeline, mate

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    It's funny that Rangiku or Toshiro never said to Ichigo, "Btw your dad was our Captain." I'm hoping that Isshin asked them to stay silent. Or maybe they were ordered too..

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    Have they ever even met Isshin after meeting Kurosaki Ichigo? I don't think they have.

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    Doubt they would miss him during this: http://www.mangahere.com/manga/bleach/v51/c459/13.html

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