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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadgye View Post
    Ya'll crazy. This chapter was awesome.
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    I've found some pretty interesting things by digging through the old bleach chapters:

    Hollows attacking shinigamis, their presense masked, gin+aizen show up to save the day: http://www.mangahere.com/manga/bleach/v15/c130.5/
    Look at the chapters name, fusion of a hollow and a shinigami eh?: http://www.mangahere.com/manga/bleach/v16/c136/
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    Also I just had a moment of thoughts so stupid they may be on the right track. Bear with me for a bit here, spoilered part of the fluff to cut down post length: Isshin has used getsuga before, also I'm pretty sure his sword wasn't even in shikai when he used it. Isshin just unleashed his shikai with "burn", leading me towards thinking that his moves shouldn't be something like getsuga.

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    Ichigo is constantly shown as a fast learner and fast adapter, Gin specifically mentions this about him as it being what makes him scary, and it's mentioned by many other people. Shortly after he becomes a pseudo-shinigami at the beginning of the manga he's able to do stuff like visualizing spirit threads to find shit. Until he fights the menos grande the only way he attacks is with close range slashes. In the mid thirties he meets Ishida and witnesses him using a spirit bow to kill hollows from a range. In chapter 49 against the menos when Ishida is touching Ichigo's initial sword and uses his bow the power flowed through automatically and made his bow wumbo. Ichigo is then attacked by a cero and counters by firing a ranged blast/cut of spiritual power for the first time. Immediately afterwards his power was going out of control and his sword was actually deforming.

    When Ichigo finally calls out his Shikai for the first time he unleashes yet another sharp large blast of reiatsu. When he finishes his bankai training he finally becomes able to control getsuga tenshou. It's defined as instantly storing his energy in the blade and then condensing it and releasing it through the tip.


    A quincy uses the reishi in the atmosphere and combines it with their spirit power to materialize spirit weapons. A shinigami channels their spirit power into/with a zanpakuto or into pure kidou attacks. Since Ichigo is both quincy and shinigami he is able to channel is own spirit power to manifest/materialize his spirit weapon on his own. I think getsuga is simply an imitation of a quincy attack. Instead of gathering outside energy into the shape of an arrow and firing it he gathers energy from inside himself into his "bow" (zangetsu) and fires it. As Isshin spent so long with Masaki he learned how to perform the same type of imitation.

    The final getsuga tenshou is exactly the same as Letzt Stil. He lost all his spirit powers by activating and using it the same way Uryuu Ishida did. When Ichigo was stabbed with a sword full of energy to get his spirit powers back he was stabbed in the same exact spot that Ryuuken Ishida shot Uryuu with an arrow to get him his spirit powers back. (19mm to the right of the heart.)
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    my fear is that he IS right, and I'll have to go rape him forrealz

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadgye View Post
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    Ya'll crazy. This chapter was awesome.
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    I've found some pretty interesting things by digging through the old bleach chapters:

    Hollows attacking shinigamis, their presense masked, gin+aizen show up to save the day: http://www.mangahere.com/manga/bleach/v15/c130.5/
    Look at the chapters name, fusion of a hollow and a shinigami eh?: http://www.mangahere.com/manga/bleach/v16/c136/
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    Also I just had a moment of thoughts so stupid they may be on the right track. Bear with me for a bit here, spoilered part of the fluff to cut down post length: Isshin has used getsuga before, also I'm pretty sure his sword wasn't even in shikai when he used it. Isshin just unleashed his shikai with "burn", leading me towards thinking that his moves shouldn't be something like getsuga.

    Spoiler: show
    Ichigo is constantly shown as a fast learner and fast adapter, Gin specifically mentions this about him as it being what makes him scary, and it's mentioned by many other people. Shortly after he becomes a pseudo-shinigami at the beginning of the manga he's able to do stuff like visualizing spirit threads to find shit. Until he fights the menos grande the only way he attacks is with close range slashes. In the mid thirties he meets Ishida and witnesses him using a spirit bow to kill hollows from a range. In chapter 49 against the menos when Ishida is touching Ichigo's initial sword and uses his bow the power flowed through automatically and made his bow wumbo. Ichigo is then attacked by a cero and counters by firing a ranged blast/cut of spiritual power for the first time. Immediately afterwards his power was going out of control and his sword was actually deforming.

    When Ichigo finally calls out his Shikai for the first time he unleashes yet another sharp large blast of reiatsu. When he finishes his bankai training he finally becomes able to control getsuga tenshou. It's defined as instantly storing his energy in the blade and then condensing it and releasing it through the tip.


    A quincy uses the reishi in the atmosphere and combines it with their spirit power to materialize spirit weapons. A shinigami channels their spirit power into/with a zanpakuto or into pure kidou attacks. Since Ichigo is both quincy and shinigami he is able to channel is own spirit power to manifest/materialize his spirit weapon on his own. I think getsuga is simply an imitation of a quincy attack. Instead of gathering outside energy into the shape of an arrow and firing it he gathers energy from inside himself into his "bow" (zangetsu) and fires it. As Isshin spent so long with Masaki he learned how to perform the same type of imitation.

    The final getsuga tenshou is exactly the same as Letzt Stil. He lost all his spirit powers by activating and using it the same way Uryuu Ishida did. When Ichigo was stabbed with a sword full of energy to get his spirit powers back he was stabbed in the same exact spot that Ryuuken Ishida shot Uryuu with an arrow to get him his spirit powers back. (19mm to the right of the heart.)
    You made Kubo sound like an amazing writer. Pulled info from a needless long arc, to use in a useless arc, to tie together multiple questionable plot holes in the entire story. G fucking G

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    That wasn't useless info, that was one of his three levels of secrets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrClout View Post
    You made Kubo sound like an amazing writer. Pulled info from a needless long arc, to use in a useless arc, to tie together multiple questionable plot holes in the entire story. G fucking G
    and you make simple foreshadowing sound like it's something hard to do.
    It's one of the easiest things to do when writing a story and can give big payoffs.

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    I slept through my lecture class today because those posts accidentally took 5 hours. I was just going to write a small paragraph and then the stuff from chapters scattered all over started matching my crazy sleep deprived idea.

    I can't even decide if I regret it or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadgye View Post
    I slept through my lecture class today because those posts accidentally took 5 hours. I was just going to write a small paragraph and then the stuff from chapters scattered all over started matching my crazy sleep deprived idea.

    I can't even decide if I regret it or not.
    Never regret skipping a college class. In fact you should do it as much as you can. Bravo on the post as well, as Abandon said if this comes to be true you gonna diiiiieeeeeeee.

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    At the very least, the fact it is Aizen and Gin who responded to the Shuhei incident is suspicious.

    Not entirely sure what I think of the Quincy stuff, especially since Aizen couldn't sense Ichigo at all in FGT mode. And as much as people hated the Fullbring stuff, it should be a factor somewhere for his progression.

    On a more general level, I'd be curious to know if how spiritually powerful one was in life would in turn translate to power as a shinigami or hollow. While the memory loss kinda went kablooey with the parrot kid (maybe due to proximity to Ichigo), were dead Quincys likely to make potential shinigami? It's also been said that only shinigami-types get hungry in SS, which could be an involuntary example of their reishi consumption as depicted through Quincy powers to do what it is they do. I dunno, all kind of tangential and we're still in the dark on the Spirit King and his alleged "evils" or whatever Aizen hinted at.

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    Renji will continue to go through the training in 0 squad dimension and ends up becoming really strong, but his personality will have completely changed and he'll be some bad guy Ichigo will have to defeat.

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    Nah. He'd never hurt Rukia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Souj View Post
    Renji will continue to go through the training in 0 squad dimension and ends up becoming really strong, but his personality will have completely changed and his zanpaktou will still suck.
    Ftfy

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    Aizen is FFXI's Odin, and Kubo is Tanaka.

    This explains everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arus2001 View Post
    At the very least, the fact it is Aizen and Gin who responded to the Shuhei incident is suspicious.
    Didn't Aizen say that the Hollows who attacked Shuhei were one of his experiments at some point?

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    pretty sure he did

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    Yes, during the fight with Soul Society he implied that he purposely grouped them all together with the hopes of finding new accomplices and scapegoats.

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    Posting all those old issues has me reading through Bleach from the start again. Just got to the part where Grimmjow's group attacks and I noticed that Ikkaku's Bankai gets broken in the first fight. Guess that whole "Bankais can never be fixed" thing wasn't decided from the start..
    http://www.mangahere.com/manga/bleach/v24/c206/3.html

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    he probably just didn't want to spoil anything. Or wanted to create tension/weaken Ikkaku. If we knew they could repair shit then we'd be thinking "why don't they repair his shit so he'll kickass again"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serra View Post
    Posting all those old issues has me reading through Bleach from the start again. Just got to the part where Grimmjow's group attacks and I noticed that Ikkaku's Bankai gets broken in the first fight. Guess that whole "Bankais can never be fixed" thing wasn't decided from the start..
    http://www.mangahere.com/manga/bleach/v24/c206/3.html
    It was said Ikkaku's was fixed, but it was weaker. Granted, Kubo threw in that line just because his zanpaktou was broken earlier in the story, but it doesn't create any roadbumps.
    He hasn't even used his bankai since then has he? Only fight I can remember him being a part of after that was vs the whale dude and he didn't use his bankai there.

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    Yeah, no bankai, and just kinda brute forced the punk kid fullbringer.

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