Normal Assault ??? Statistics

[NynJa]

just got Sanguine Sword from Blitzkrieg assault, appraising ??? Sword.
[img-]http://www.rocketh.net/upload/sword.jpg[/img]
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then I guess somepage is wrong on that.

Not gonna count this one, since there's a bone chip in the treasure pool and you didn't say anything about a ??? box

I dont think ppl give a fuck about ??? Boxes...

The day a ??? Box gives something worthwhile, ppl may track em. I personally dont track em anymore.

[divisortheory]

I dont think ppl give a fuck about ??? Boxes...

The day a ??? Box gives something worthwhile, ppl may track em. I personally dont track em anymore.

The point is, I think people do give a fuck about how often you get a ??? Box vs. how often you get a ??? Earring, Sword, whatever. Yea, they dont' care how often you get the stuff inside the box, but they care about the fact it was a box vs. something else.

[NynJa]

I dont think ppl give a fuck about ??? Boxes...

The day a ??? Box gives something worthwhile, ppl may track em. I personally dont track em anymore.

The point is, I think people do give a fuck about how often you get a ??? Box vs. how often you get a ??? Earring, Sword, whatever. Yea, they dont' care how often you get the stuff inside the box, but they care about the fact it was a box vs. something else.

I was under the impression you were tracking the rate of rare/ex from ??? not-box.

[divisortheory]

Both. If all I track is the rate of rare/ex from ??? equip, it doesn't answer the question "If I do this assault right now, what are the chances i'll get a rare/ex", because you have to know what the chances are you'll even get a ??? equip in the first place.

[divisortheory]

Golden Salvage

??? Box x2

[Suiram]

Azure Experiments x4 Uncapped, Whitegate

??? Box >> Tsurara
??? Box >> Tsurara
??? Feet >> Ash Clogs
??? Sword >> Macuahuitl -1

[Metah]

Golden Salvage

??? Box x3

Rusty Bucket
Rusty Bucket
Little Worm

??? Earring

Shell Earring

Examined in whitegate

[Cybaster]

Golden Salvage, appraised in Whitegate

??? Box => Distilled Water
??? Earring => Bone Earring
??? Earring => Silver Earring
??? Earring => Shell Earring

[Tordall]

Appraised in whitegate:

Bloodshed -> ??? box -> something useless
Seagull Grounded -> ??? box -> something useless

[Kildar]

Preemptive Strike x4

??? Necklace - Gorget +1
??? Necklace - Feather Collar
??? Box - Eggplant
??? Necklace - Specs

[divisortheory]

Finally got around to updating this. Almost up to 300 recorded Assaults.

[Soily]

Tonight's results :
1) Periqia - Building Bridges : ??? Box -> Rotten Quiver
2) Ilrusi Atoll - Searat Salvation : ??? Dagger -> Hushed Dagger

[Therin]

Just did this random SP rank one today to clear a friend, and got lucky:

Saving Private Ryaaf - ??? Shield : Storm Shield

[Khamsin]

Just out of curiosity, how many individual ??? items of a particular type are in the .dats?

When you get a ??? Ring that turns out to be a Divisor Ring, how did that happen?

A) The ??? Ring you got from the chest was really a ??? Ring[3] out of ??? Ring[1 through 6], and the .dat file shows 6 ??? Rings, but all with the same description/name/etc. The particular one you got is pre-ordained to become a Divisor Ring, whereas ??? Ring[2] is going to be a Storm Ring, and ??? Ring[5] a Brass Ring+1 and ??? Ring[6] a Beetle Ring+1.

B) The ??? Ring you got from the chest is the same as any other ??? Ring you get from any other chest, only there is a hidden flag set to indicate that it will become a Divisor Ring. The hidden flag might be something similar to how enchanted items keep their info when trading between players.

C) The ??? Ring you got from the chest was really a ??? Ring[3], just like in scenario A. Unlike scenario A, Azure Experiments always gives you ??? Ring[3] and no other (when it decides to drop one), and is not pre-ordained to become anything. When you trade it in, the Appraiser decides at that time what it will become. ??? Ring[3], in particular, has a 45% chance to become a Brass Ring+1, a 45% chance to become a Beetle Ring+1, and a 10% chance to become a Divisor Ring. Whereas a ??? Ring[2] from some other Assault (which always gives ??? Ring[2] and no other) has a 45% chance to become a Copper Ring+1, a 45% chance to become a Brass Ring+1, and a 10% chance to become a Storm Ring.

D) Take Scenario B and assume the hidden flag merely indicates that the ??? Ring came from Azure Experiments, and therefore (like in Scenario C) the Appraiser determines what it becomes based on a chance table for ??? Rings that come from Azure Experiments (and he knows where it came from due to the hidden flag).

[mackerel]

leujaoam, counting sheep, 2x ??? dagger, spark dagger + hushed dagger

[aurik]

Just out of curiosity, how many individual ??? items of a particular type are in the .dats?

When you get a ??? Ring that turns out to be a Divisor Ring, how did that happen?

A) The ??? Ring you got from the chest was really a ??? Ring[3] out of ??? Ring[1 through 6], and the .dat file shows 6 ??? Rings, but all with the same description/name/etc. The particular one you got is pre-ordained to become a Divisor Ring, whereas ??? Ring[2] is going to be a Storm Ring, and ??? Ring[5] a Brass Ring+1 and ??? Ring[6] a Beetle Ring+1.

B) The ??? Ring you got from the chest is the same as any other ??? Ring you get from any other chest, only there is a hidden flag set to indicate that it will become a Divisor Ring. The hidden flag might be something similar to how enchanted items keep their info when trading between players.

C) The ??? Ring you got from the chest was really a ??? Ring[3], just like in scenario A. Unlike scenario A, Azure Experiments always gives you ??? Ring[3] and no other (when it decides to drop one), and is not pre-ordained to become anything. When you trade it in, the Appraiser decides at that time what it will become. ??? Ring[3], in particular, has a 45% chance to become a Brass Ring+1, a 45% chance to become a Beetle Ring+1, and a 10% chance to become a Divisor Ring. Whereas a ??? Ring[2] from some other Assault (which always gives ??? Ring[2] and no other) has a 45% chance to become a Copper Ring+1, a 45% chance to become a Brass Ring+1, and a 10% chance to become a Storm Ring.

D) Take Scenario B and assume the hidden flag merely indicates that the ??? Ring came from Azure Experiments, and therefore (like in Scenario C) the Appraiser determines what it becomes based on a chance table for ??? Rings that come from Azure Experiments (and he knows where it came from due to the hidden flag).

Type is probably determined when you get the item, just in a server-side-only data section.

[Sady]

RE: Khamsin's post above

I'd guess case D is most likely from a programing perspective (my knowledge of programming is very elmentary tho). Damn Aurik beat me too it.

This structure would be smart in the sence that there is no possible way to pre-determine what a ??? item will become before apraisal, thus eliminating the possibility of a hacker exploiting ??? items (appraise the good stuff, sell the crap in your bazaar for 10k each to rich/dumb gamblers).

[Kaylia]

Tier5 leujeuam: Spark Dagger
Tier5 Mamool: Spark Spear

Edit

Tier5 Lebros: holly staff+1

[evilbau]

Lamia 13 x3

??? Box = Rusty Bucket
??? Bow = Crossbow + 1
??? Legs = Bronze Leggings + 1

[mackerel]

saving private ryaaf x2
??? polearm = willow wand +1
??? box = igneous rock