WAR gear for TP burn without Rajas/Suppa

[RKenshin]

I use both acc rings for every job minus SAM since it saves one swing to 100% TP, and 90% of the time I can WS as soon as I break 100% TP on SAM.

On my other jobs I don't use Rajas except for WS gear because it usually doesn't save a hit, and on jobs like NIN and WAR I'm often going to end up using a WS when I'm a bit past 100% TP. Really unless you're able to WS right when you break the 100% TP barrier without fail a high majority of the time, there's no reason to wear Rajas. Which is usually the case since I use high haste builds. In addition it's more friendly to meat builds.

Only places it's worth using IMO is if you're either already at the acc cap from using sushi, or if it saves a hit to 100% TP with a setup where you can easily WS each time you get TP (usually not the case with multi-hit WS or tanking jobs).

And yeah, would definitely use Swift Belt for TP. Potent is fine for WS and I'd probably use that over Warwolf in most situations. Dusk gloves is your best option for hands. Amir probably best to go with full time. For earrings I'd go with Brutal/Assault, even if you always have a BRD in PT you don't always have minuet up. Weapons are up to you, but I'd recommend Wood/Man ove Wood/Joy with the gear you have available.

[Dark Vincent]

So I shouldn't switch rings for WS? Just stick with Sniper's fulltime? And with that gear (putting Amir Boots fulltime and Swift Belt instead of Potent. No Peacock and an Assault Earring) can I use Meat?
Thanks for all the suggestions btw everyone.

[SassiAsura]

No I think every single person here indicated that rajas for WS is a definite must

[Matricide]

a combination of str+5 dex+5 atk+2.5 acc+2.5 subtle blow, store tp.. well, vs acc 5. i wear sniper+1 and rajas, 2.5-5 acc isnt enough to justify my hiding my accomplishment and the other benefits of the ring. it's no question to me.

looks like mithras across servers who go from the same hair stylist and wear the same armor do agree on the same ring setup
my rajas stays on my left paw(ring2), how about you?
/whisperwhisper... are you my sister?

rules: rajas ring2. brutal ear2 !

yes

[Dark Vincent]

No I think every single person here indicated that rajas for WS is a definite must

And I said on the first post I dont have Rajas (PLD main etc etc) That's why I made the topic to begin with

[Karinastar]

No I think every single person here indicated that rajas for WS is a definite must

And I said on the first post I dont have Rajas (PLD main etc etc) That's why I made the topic to begin with

Just use a Flame Ring or if you're on a budget a Ruby Ring for WS then in that slot, it won't really make that much difference.

[Chupunpupun]

I use both acc rings for every job minus SAM since it saves one swing to 100% TP, and 90% of the time I can WS as soon as I break 100% TP on SAM.

On my other jobs I don't use Rajas except for WS gear because it usually doesn't save a hit, and on jobs like NIN and WAR I'm often going to end up using a WS when I'm a bit past 100% TP. Really unless you're able to WS right when you break the 100% TP barrier without fail a high majority of the time, there's no reason to wear Rajas. Which is usually the case since I use high haste builds. In addition it's more friendly to meat builds.

Only places it's worth using IMO is if you're either already at the acc cap from using sushi, or if it saves a hit to 100% TP with a setup where you can easily WS each time you get TP (usually not the case with multi-hit WS or tanking jobs).

And yeah, would definitely use Swift Belt for TP. Potent is fine for WS and I'd probably use that over Warwolf in most situations. Dusk gloves is your best option for hands. Amir probably best to go with full time. For earrings I'd go with Brutal/Assault, even if you always have a BRD in PT you don't always have minuet up. Weapons are up to you, but I'd recommend Wood/Man ove Wood/Joy with the gear you have available.

Ruke has spoken and it just reaffirm my decision to pick Sattva (because I'm fragile and Rajas as WS piece just doesn't seen appealing).

[Mysterio]

I use both acc rings for every job minus SAM since it saves one swing to 100% TP, and 90% of the time I can WS as soon as I break 100% TP on SAM.

On my other jobs I don't use Rajas except for WS gear because it usually doesn't save a hit, and on jobs like NIN and WAR I'm often going to end up using a WS when I'm a bit past 100% TP. Really unless you're able to WS right when you break the 100% TP barrier without fail a high majority of the time, there's no reason to wear Rajas. Which is usually the case since I use high haste builds. In addition it's more friendly to meat builds.

Only places it's worth using IMO is if you're either already at the acc cap from using sushi, or if it saves a hit to 100% TP with a setup where you can easily WS each time you get TP (usually not the case with multi-hit WS or tanking jobs).

And yeah, would definitely use Swift Belt for TP. Potent is fine for WS and I'd probably use that over Warwolf in most situations. Dusk gloves is your best option for hands. Amir probably best to go with full time. For earrings I'd go with Brutal/Assault, even if you always have a BRD in PT you don't always have minuet up. Weapons are up to you, but I'd recommend Wood/Man ove Wood/Joy with the gear you have available.

Ruke has spoken and it just reaffirm my decision to pick Sattva (because I'm fragile and Rajas as WS piece just doesn't seen appealing).

yeah here again, it depends on what mob you're fighting and what food..

Rajas seems better for Sushi setup..

But then again it would be fine for a well geared Meat melee on puks..(Tough con)

[GSDragoon]

a combination of str+5 dex+5 atk+2.5 acc+2.5 subtle blow, store tp.. well, vs acc 5. i wear sniper+1 and rajas, 2.5-5 acc isnt enough to justify my hiding my accomplishment and the other benefits of the ring. it's no question to me.

looks like mithras across servers who go from the same hair stylist and wear the same armor do agree on the same ring setup
my rajas stays on my left paw(ring2), how about you?
/whisperwhisper... are you my sister?

Wood/Rajas :\ (I'm poor!)

Jaeger Ring for the uber poor. I used Raja's/jaeger for long time, til I recently got a sniper's. I was meriting on drg today using attack food, so the 2 acc rings were kinda nice to have.

PS. Dear Omega, please drop more hearts.

[Eratosthenes]

The Rajas Ring will get you to 100% sooner if you land at or above 95.3% without it.

95.3 * 1.05 = 100.065

[VZX]

The Rajas Ring will get you to 100% sooner if you land at or above 95.3% without it.

95.3 * 1.05 = 100.065

not really... you forgot truncation error there (hay discrete math)
Let's say
TP/hit = 15.9TP -> reach 95.4TP in 6 hits (>95.3)
TP/hit with Rajas = 15.9 * 1.05 = 16.695TP/hit => 16.6TP/hit
16.6TP/hit * 6 hit = 99.6TP

another example:
TP/hit = 10.6 -> reach 95.4TP in 9 hits (>95.4)
TP/hit with Rajas = 10.6*1.05 = 11.13TP/hit => 11.1 TP/hit
11.1TP/hit * 9 hits = 99.9TP

[Chupunpupun]

The Rajas Ring will get you to 100% sooner if you land at or above 95.3% without it.

95.3 * 1.05 = 100.065

not really... you forgot truncation error there (hay discrete math)
Let's say
TP/hit = 15.9TP -> reach 95.4TP in 6 hits (>95.3)
TP/hit with Rajas = 15.9 * 1.05 = 16.695TP/hit => 16.6TP/hit
16.6TP/hit * 6 hit = 99.6TP

another example:
TP/hit = 10.6 -> reach 95.4TP in 9 hits (>95.4)
TP/hit with Rajas = 10.6*1.05 = 11.13TP/hit => 11.1 TP/hit
11.1TP/hit * 9 hits = 99.9TP

I did the same math but I calculated the TP gain for Maneater/Juggernaut and Maneater/Ridill and Store TP+5 didn't help either of those get 100% TP any faster.

EDIT: I just realize that most people will use Brutal with Rajas so they would have Store TP+6. Redoing the examples

TP/hit = 15.9TP -> reach 95.4TP in 6 hits (>95.3)
TP/hit with Rajas = 15.9 * 1.06 = 16.854TP/hit => 16.8TP/hit
16.8TP/hit * 6 hit = 100.8TP

another example:
TP/hit = 10.6 -> reach 95.4TP in 9 hits (>95.4)
TP/hit with Rajas = 10.6*1.06 = 11.235TP/hit => 11.2 TP/hit
11.2TP/hit * 9 hits = 100.8TP

So it seems using Brutal+Rajas and for the poor Chiv. Chain, they can get 100% tp 1 swing faster......

[Deftscythe]

I have a question I don't think really deserves it's own topic.

For those without Byakko's, what do you wear on your legs? I've been using Barone but I'm kinda sick of them.

[Mysterio]

I have a question I don't think really deserves it's own topic.

For those without Byakko's, what do you wear on your legs? I've been using Barone but I'm kinda sick of them.

not a whole lot else to wear.

Aside from assault pants... Maybe your AF lol

dude just check Mysterytour to see what other options you have lol.

[Scorp]

The only real options are all pretty tricky to get, AF2, Barb Zerh's, E legs.

If you fancy a change or are just a fan of the Village People go for some tracker's kecks around town or .dat swap.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

btw, missing a hit on a WS or taking a hit from some AoE or fucked up shadows can also make the store tp+5 make a difference. It often saves a swing.

For WAR legs, don't forget ares! lol

[Orph]

Dusk legs are pretty good if you dont have haidate.

[Quixotic]

I don't have haidate so I use dusk trousers or galliard trousers, depending on what I'm fighting.

[Deftscythe]

I have a question I don't think really deserves it's own topic.

For those without Byakko's, what do you wear on your legs? I've been using Barone but I'm kinda sick of them.

not a whole lot else to wear.

Aside from assault pants... Maybe your AF lol

dude just check Mysterytour to see what other options you have lol.

I did, but sometimes I miss things and I wanted to double-check.

[Marsala]

war af2 legs are sexy for double atk but the enm really blows if you wear af1 feet and af2 hands.