[OFFICIAL] Hillary Clinton running for 2008 President!

[Gregorio]

If Clinton and Obama are the only 2 major candidates running, the Rebublicans might as well better start celebrating now.




...I hope more people start voting Libertarian.

[Serif]

Barack Hussein Obama.

I highly doubt a lot of people are going to vote for him just for his middle name.

Especially in the South and the same goes for Mrs. Hillary Clinton. Republican's will probably celebrate unless Oprah bring forth her minions of womanhood and call upon he underlings of the book club.

[BRP]

Anyone who is against the internet and videogames is an enemy to the United States of America.

[Fhqwghads]

Fuck Hilary. She's one of those stupid cnuts who is for the government babysitting people's children for them. Video games is one of those angles where she can just fuck off and die. We don't need even more federal intrusion than we have now, thanks to that dipshit Dubya and his out of control power trip. We need politicians who want less government, not more.

Kinda funny reading that LS chat session. I've always viewed her as a spineless twat who let Bill walk all over her. That's the last thing I want in a president. Hell, she would never have won her place in congress in the first place if the person she was running against wasn't a complete retard.

So ya... no way in goddamn hell is that stupid bitch getting my vote.

[Jimmayus]

Anarchy (or less government) only works when people are capable and willing to always implement rational thought; since we can't even do that now, it's fairly evident that a system is required.

[Lbelle]

if Hillary and Oprah run for president, then we'd have two middle aged white women running! ROFLROFLROFLORLFORLFOLROFL

[archibaldcrane]

She wants to make sure the video game rating system is enforced. That's all.

I'm kind of indifferent about Hilary. I just hope John Edwards runs, because I think the Democrats' only chance of winning next year is with a nice male WASP.

[Kuya]

Im kinda bothered by the fact that people are already stating that a woman or a black man cant win presidency and that for the democrats to win they need a white male, dont get me wrong, but who gives a fuck about parties. The person who should win is the one who will change the US for the better, not if that person is red or blue.

Is it that imposible for anything other than a white man to be president there?

[Helpoemer]

Arnold Schwarzenegger as the solution is all i have to add to this


i'm no political knower at all so forgive me for asking but ¬_¬ is hilary the daughter or the wife?

[archibaldcrane]

Im kinda bothered by the fact that people are already stating that a woman or a black man cant win presidency and that for the democrats to win they need a white male, dont get me wrong, but who gives a fuck about parties. The person who should win is the one who will change the US for the better, not if that person is red or blue.

Is it that imposible for anything other than a white man to be president there?

Such idealism...doesn't reflect the reality of the american presidential system. Bush's campaign basically successfully derailed John McCain's run for the republican nomination back in 2000 by suggesting he had an illegitimate daughter with a black woman:

From Wikipedia:

There was alleged to have been a push polling campaign by the Bush camp, in which phone calls were made to conservative Republican voters in the Deep South, allegedly to ask them whether they would support McCain if he had an illegitimate interracial daughter with a black woman. McCain in fact has an adopted daughter from Bangladesh.

When you're dealing with a political climate where the specter of race, even in an bold-faced lie, can swing things your way, I don't think that a minority or female democrat, or at least the two we're presented with, can withstand the misinformation barrage of both a primary run and a presidential run. What "should" be the case is irrelevant. This is what we're dealing with.

[Sadler]

If she banned video games, I guarantee a Counter-Strike, UT, Quake, Farcry, Half-Life, Rainbow Six, Socom, Gears of War, Halo (I can keep going) fan would assassinate her.

Amen.

[Kuya]

Im kinda bothered by the fact that people are already stating that a woman or a black man cant win presidency and that for the democrats to win they need a white male, dont get me wrong, but who gives a fuck about parties. The person who should win is the one who will change the US for the better, not if that person is red or blue.

Is it that imposible for anything other than a white man to be president there?

Such idealism...doesn't reflect the reality of the american presidential system. Bush's campaign basically successfully derailed John McCain's run for the republican nomination back in 2000 by suggesting he had an illegitimate daughter with a black woman:

From Wikipedia:

There was alleged to have been a push polling campaign by the Bush camp, in which phone calls were made to conservative Republican voters in the Deep South, allegedly to ask them whether they would support McCain if he had an illegitimate interracial daughter with a black woman. McCain in fact has an adopted daughter from Bangladesh.

When you're dealing with a political climate where the specter of race, even in an bold-faced lie, can swing things your way, I don't think that a minority or female democrat, or at least the two we're presented with, can withstand the misinformation barrage of both a primary run and a presidential run. What "should" be the case is irrelevant. This is what we're dealing with.

Idealism with a dash of realism.

Nothing will ever change if nobody ever does anything about it.

[edgarfigaro]

The t-shirts are already out.

http://www.thoseshirts.com/redefeat.html

meh to most of those t shirts, but this one:
http://www.thoseshirts.com/images/square-med-checap.jpg
made me burst out laughing for some reason.

On topic, I'm almost 99% certain I will not be voting for a presidential candidate in 2008. In 04, I voted libertarian, but that honestly wasn't worth the .3 seconds it took to darken the oval. If the Republicans win (which they probably will because the Democrats collectively have the political ablities of an orange), we'll just enjoy another 4 years of overspending and scare tactics. If the Democrats win, we'll have another 4 years of overspending (funny how the two parties hate eachother, considering their common interest in spending money they don't have) along with increased taxes/government regulations, and god help us, a government run health care system.

I'm just going to spend all my energy in making sure my candidate for governor is elected so I have a shot at a cushy government job...screw the rest of you.

[Xeno]

Awe shit we're all fucked if she makes it =\

I'm all for the point of view saying 'fuck the rest of the world, lets better ourselves'. I'm personally tired of seeing my tax money feeding future terrorists and drug runners, I'd much rather be feeding/clothing the homeless within our own borders... but FUCK, I don't want it from HER.

Only way to pull this one out is if Mayor Rudy runs

I will move to Canada if she gets elected, no lie.

[finale23]

i really hope she doesn't get majority nomination, otherwise democrats are really on thin ice in the upcoming 08 election. that's the last thing we need after a 8-year Bush regime.

[Artful Dodger]

i would sooner vote for david duke

[Plow]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0, ... 29,00.html

You don't think the fact that she is just another religious right wing nut is a problem?

This has to be the most retarded statement I've ever heard in my entire life, by a long, long, long, long, looooooong ways.

Did you even read the damn article you linked? Let me point a little something out:

Children are playing a game that encourages them to have sex with prostitutes and then murder them... This is a silent epidemic of media desensitisation that teaches kids it’s okay to diss people because they are a woman, they’re a different colour or they’re from a different place.

Do you not understand why a LOT of people take issue with the fact that their 10 year old can go to the store and get a game where you basically sit around for hours on end commiting heinous crimes?

Or maybe just to their friend's house and not need any money and be completely out of the control of their parents? Are parents supposed to go to every friend of their child's home and inspect his video game collection?

The fact is the shit is porno. It's going to be there, but there needs to be control over it. Kids need to know that when they're playing a game where they're just running around commiting random acts of violence, *shocked* they're actually doing something BAD.

It's one thing to have fighting games that emulate controlled agreed upon fighting. It's another thing to have war games that emulate real life situations that involve saving the day, or leading your troops to a glorious victory.

It's quite another to pick up a hooker, bang her in the back seat, then kill her.

It takes a complete utter lack of common sense not to see this. It takes something beyond complete idiocy to hear something about it and proclaim someone a "right wing religious nut."

The problem is, Hillary won't be able to win because there are millions of people that are just completely fucking stupid as hell and have heard "Hillary is bad" from any and all right wing media sources, and all of their audience, since the moment she made an attempt at bringing universal health care that was effective and important enough to get the pharmaceutical companies concerned. That was a long freakin sentence but I see no way to break it up lol.

Things like "Oh Hillary is bad cuz she voted for the war and now that it's not popular she's against it." Which of course is retarded because THEY WERE LIED TO BY THE FUCKING PRESIDENT and a big big big majority supported it because the administration did such an incredible job of saying and presenting the right things to support their massive lie.

Or things like "Hillary is against video games cuz she thinks it should be hard for little kids to get ahold of one where you randomly kill people in metropolitan situations just for the fuck of it, or because you don't wanna pay the whore you just fucked."

[sephir]

Awe shit we're all fucked if she makes it =\

I'm all for the point of view saying 'fuck the rest of the world, lets better ourselves'. I'm personally tired of seeing my tax money feeding future terrorists and drug runners, I'd much rather be feeding/clothing the homeless within our own borders... but FUCK, I don't want it from HER.

Only way to pull this one out is if Mayor Rudy runs

I will move to Canada if she gets elected, no lie.

I dont think you know that much about Canada to be making that statement. The canadian gov't is way more left wing than she will ever be, so if your running up north to escape liberal leaders being elected your just trading one form of liberalism for another.

[Obev]

Policies on videogames make me less sad than the fact that were the wife of a former president to be elected to power, it'd be even more nepotistic than the son of a former president taking power. Something in my stomach does puke-flavoured backflips at the thought of that.

Oh well, not like I can make a difference, or have an opinion worth a damn anyway. I live in what is still technically a monarchy, so any criticism of mine about nepotism is null and void from the start.

[Devek]

Too bad any arguments about video game violence being bad are totally retarded when the fact that teen violence is lower than it has ever been.

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/9...jchart13vm.gif

( Source: http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/myturn/?id=10787 which uses http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/welcome.html for their numbers.)

Hilary would like you to believe that video games make kid more violent and offers evidence that insults my intelligence.

Recent research has confirmed links between exposure to violent video games and aggressive behavior in children and a groundbreaking new study by researchers at Indiana University School of Medicine show that playing violent video games triggers unusual brain activity among aggressive adolescents with disruptive behavior disorders. Senator Clinton noted that this is just the latest piece of evidence that confirms the potentially damaging impact of these games on children. Senator Clinton also noted that the current, industry enforced system is not yet working as it should and is not acting as a deterrent to kids accessing inappropriate video games, underscoring the need for today’s action.

(Source: http://www.clinton.senate.gov/news/stat ... d=240603&& )

Oh.. so kids who are already aggressive and have disruptive behavior disorders have "unusual" brain activity when playing violent video games. I bet they have "unusual" brain activity when watching the sound of music too.

Hilary's position totally flies in the face of everything people who grew up in this generation experienced. Some will call them murder simulators but I will call it a healthy outlet.